Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 60547 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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Socialists Get Out

Rochelle, IL

#85 Mar 29, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Well, you are entitled to your beliefs and reasons.....however that wasn't the reason for it being written that way!!!
Our Country was NOT founded on Christian beliefs nor has it ever been a Christian Nation......if ya want to live in a Theocracy......I'm certain their are Countries that you will fit nicely in......but the UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN WILL NEVER BE IN OF THEM!!!
you stupid ape get back up in the tree with your tribe.

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#86 Mar 29, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
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Well, you are entitled to your beliefs and reasons.....however that wasn't the reason for it being written that way!!!
Our Country was NOT founded on Christian beliefs nor has it ever been a Christian Nation......if ya want to live in a Theocracy......I'm certain their are Countries that you will fit nicely in......but the UNITED STATES OF AMERICAN WILL NEVER BE IN OF THEM!!!
That's not exactly true.

When teh U.S. Constitution was ratified, and for about the first 100 years of the republic's existence, the law of the land was that the U.S. Constitution's Bill Of Rights applied ONLY to teh federal government. Several state constitutions, which PRECEDED the U.S. Constitution's ratification, explicitly acknowledge, and even require a person to believe in "Almighty God" and "Jesus Christ".

In fact, SCOTUS SPECIFICALLY RULED in Barron v. Baltimore (1833) that the Bill of Rights applied ONLY to the federal government, and NOT the state governments.

And SCOTUS ruled again in United States v. Cruikshank (1876) that teh First Amendment and the Second Amendment DID NOT APPLY to state governments.

But this changed in teh 1920's when SCOTUS began ruling in cases that the Fourteenth Amendment "incorporated" most portions of the Bill of Rights, making these portions, for the first time, enforceable against the state governments.

So to say that the U.S. was founded on religious freedom is another one of those myths that many misinfomred people believe in and like to promote.(Another example is the mythical "right to vote" which is found NOWHERE in teh U.S. Constitution, and yes, we've had this debate before. THERE IS NO FEDERAL "RIGHT TO VOTE" !)
lilith

Bellevue, WA

#87 Mar 29, 2013
Socialists Get Out wrote:
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you stupid ape get back up in the tree with your tribe.
iq never was your thing was it... poor thing your had a stagnet gene pool
Socialists Get Out

Rochelle, IL

#88 Mar 29, 2013
lilith wrote:
<quoted text>iq never was your thing was it... poor thing your had a stagnet gene pool
it sure isn't yours, you regressing ape
Socialists Get Out

Rochelle, IL

#89 Mar 29, 2013
tha Professor wrote:
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IF there was ever a city of Sodom, it was likely destroyed by earthquake/fire, and explained away by the ignorant Israelites as 'god's wrath' because they laughed when a bunch of ignorant sheep-shaggers strolled into town...LOL
that's real funny coming from an ape shagger

Since: Apr 08

Location hidden

#90 Mar 29, 2013
lilith wrote:
<quoted text>did you actually read your link... it confers with everything i said.... thanks
You must have missed the very first 2 sentences:

"The word translated as 'know'(yadha') is used by itself in ten places in the Old Testament to denote heterosexual coition. In five additional texts it is used in conjunction with mishkabh (in this context, "to lie") to mean the same thing."

Pretty much means ...have sex with, not being acquainted with.

And what in Hell does "confers with everything I said" mean?

“Wild WILD West”

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#91 Mar 29, 2013
Quest wrote:
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A sodomite was a person who lived in Sodom. None of those alive today.
Sod·om·ite [sod-uh-mahyt] Show IPA
noun
1.
an inhabitant of Sodom.
2.
( lowercase ) a person who engages in sodomy.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sodomi...

Definition of SODOMY
: anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sod...

Sodomy IS homosexuality!
QUEER!

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#93 Mar 29, 2013
Trinite wrote:
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Sod·om·ite [sod-uh-mahyt] Show IPA
noun
1.
an inhabitant of Sodom.
2.
( lowercase ) a person who engages in sodomy.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sodomi...
Definition of SODOMY
: anal or oral copulation with a member of the same or opposite sex; also : copulation with an animal
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sod...
Sodomy IS homosexuality!
QUEER!
By your own definition, sodomy is NOT homosexuality. Oral sex and anal sex between heterosexual couples was also defined as sodomy.

And the word "sodomy" as applied to oral sex and anal sex is really a misnomer, as the bible says that the sin of Sodom was PRIDE, not consensual sex, be it gay or str8.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#94 Mar 29, 2013
fr Eileen Jael:
>NO! When sodomites get snotty & want to walk all over the Christian faith, then I step up tp the plate. SORRY! The U.S. Constitution ends with the year of the Lord....(Lord=Jesus Romans 10:9) THEY CHOSE NOT TO SAY IT ANOTHER WAY.<
Nobody is walking all over the Christian faith, Eileen. Please get some secular counselling for your homophobia and bigotry.

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#95 Mar 29, 2013
fr Eileen Jael:

>... I hope the Supreme Court Justices are tuning in to all of your subtle personality disorders....<

Eileen, please get some help.

“Wild WILD West”

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#96 Mar 30, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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By your own definition, sodomy is NOT homosexuality. Oral sex and anal sex between heterosexual couples was also defined as sodomy.
And the word "sodomy" as applied to oral sex and anal sex is really a misnomer, as the bible says that the sin of Sodom was PRIDE, not consensual sex, be it gay or str8.
In the late 13th Century, sodomites began to be viewed, even by the general public, as being in league with devils and demons. Homosexuality and sodomy are also condemned in the Bible, including Leviticus 18:22:'Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind it is abomination', providing another strong reason for the opposition of the Church. Non-homosexuals would have followed the Church's belief that such actions were against God.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/dna/place-lancashire/pl...

HOMOSEXUALITY (ENGAGING IN SODOMY AND LESBIANISM)

... 18:22 reads, "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." That is ...

http://www.jesusisthelight.net/HOMOSEXUALITY....

“Wild WILD West”

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#97 Mar 30, 2013
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? NO!!!

What do I mean by the title of this paper? As Christians, we are called to be set apart. The Bible gives verse after verse that tells us that although we are in this world, we no longer should follow the rules or ways of thinking of the world. If you have truly accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior, then that should mean that Jesus' voice and Jesus' ways are what you should be following and obeying. You should no longer be desirous of fellowship with the people of this world who are against Christ. You cannot just go along with anybody and everybody, even if you think you are doing it for "a greater good." The Bible tells us to make a choice. "Choose you this day whom ye will serve" (Joshua 24:15). And in making that choice, you will realize that, no, we can't all just get along.

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I CAN HEAR WHAT YOU ARE THINKING, "BUT THESE PEOPLE AREN'T ALL EVIL. ONE OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS IS A __________"

If that is your way of thinking, I have a question for you: Would you join up with the antichrist for a so-called good cause? Of course not. But let's look at exactly who the antichrist is. Who is the anti-Christ? 1 John 2:22 tells us "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. So anyone who denies that Jesus is God and that Christ is the Savior IS antichrist. Period!

http://www.jesusisthelight.net/CANTWE.htm

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#98 Mar 30, 2013
Trinite wrote:
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In the late 13th Century, sodomites began to be viewed,........
I don't believe that at that time, Sodom had any residents.

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#99 Mar 30, 2013
Trinite wrote:
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? NO!!!
What do I mean by the title of this paper? As Christians, we are called to be set apart...
I though you were supposed to be the light and salt that draws other people to Christ?

Kind of hard to do is you are "set apart".

Jesus certainly didn't set himself apart. He walked and preached freely among the sinners and disposed, healed the sick, and openly embraced undesirables.

If we, as Christains are supposed to follow in the footsteps of Christ, we can't do that if we place ourselves above and away from the rest of society.

So, yes, we ARE supposed to "get along".

Since: Mar 07

Location hidden

#100 Mar 30, 2013
Trinite wrote:
......
I CAN HEAR WHAT YOU ARE THINKING, "BUT THESE PEOPLE AREN'T ALL EVIL. ONE OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS IS A __________"
If that is your way of thinking, I have a question for you: Would you join up with the antichrist for a so-called good cause? Of course not.....
Oh my.

You just compared good, law - abiding gay people to the anti-christ. You just compared your gay Brothers and Sisters in Christ to the anti-christ.

Is it any wonder that you succeed in driving so many gay people away from Christianity? You, and all those who have difficulty using the brains and empathy that God gave you, will have much to answer for.

But, just go ahead searching desperately for the speck in your brother's eye.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#101 Mar 30, 2013
Trinite wrote:
CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG? NO!!!
What do I mean by the title of this paper? As Christians, we are called to be set apart. The Bible gives verse after verse that tells us that although we are in this world, we no longer should follow the rules or ways of thinking of the world. If you have truly accepted Christ as your Lord and Savior, then that should mean that Jesus' voice and Jesus' ways are what you should be following and obeying. You should no longer be desirous of fellowship with the people of this world who are against Christ. You cannot just go along with anybody and everybody, even if you think you are doing it for "a greater good." The Bible tells us to make a choice. "Choose you this day whom ye will serve" (Joshua 24:15). And in making that choice, you will realize that, no, we can't all just get along.
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I CAN HEAR WHAT YOU ARE THINKING, "BUT THESE PEOPLE AREN'T ALL EVIL. ONE OF MY CLOSEST FRIENDS IS A __________"
If that is your way of thinking, I have a question for you: Would you join up with the antichrist for a so-called good cause? Of course not. But let's look at exactly who the antichrist is. Who is the anti-Christ? 1 John 2:22 tells us "Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. So anyone who denies that Jesus is God and that Christ is the Savior IS antichrist. Period!
http://www.jesusisthelight.net/CANTWE.htm
your bible also tells you it is Ok to own slaves. and hten it lies to you in many, mnay place.

your made-up cult has no place in the rational world,a dn certainly not inthe making of our laws.
Eileen Jael

Las Vegas, NV

#102 Mar 30, 2013
Quest wrote:
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You are an angry one, aren't you? Why don't you act like a sister in Christ instead of pretending you know more than God does.
You should go on a Quest for Biblical truths instead of what only your sinful mind wants to hear.

Wherever homosexuality & sexual perversion are mentioned in God's Word, they are CONDEMNED. Scripture also says that those who do these things will NOT inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.

Warning those who are skewed in diabolical behavior is NOT being hateful, it's a warning from your Heavenly Father for your own good. REPENT!

As you can see in Genesis 19, two angels were sent to destroy Sodom. By an earthquake? SULPHUR WAS RAINED DOWN FROM HEAVEN.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#103 Mar 30, 2013
Eileen Jael wrote:
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You should go on a Quest for Biblical truths instead of what only your sinful mind wants to hear.
Wherever homosexuality & sexual perversion are mentioned in God's Word, they are CONDEMNED. Scripture also says that those who do these things will NOT inherit the Kingdom of Heaven.
Warning those who are skewed in diabolical behavior is NOT being hateful, it's a warning from your Heavenly Father for your own good. REPENT!
As you can see in Genesis 19, two angels were sent to destroy Sodom. By an earthquake? SULPHUR WAS RAINED DOWN FROM HEAVEN.
biblical truths?!? isn't that an oxymoron?

your bible is full of liea nd falsehoods. the mythical god you worship is based on lies...

we do not need your cult in the rational lwamaking world...
Eileen Jael

Las Vegas, NV

#104 Mar 30, 2013
Fa-Foxy wrote:
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By your own definition, sodomy is NOT homosexuality. Oral sex and anal sex between heterosexual couples was also defined as sodomy.
And the word "sodomy" as applied to oral sex and anal sex is really a misnomer, as the bible says that the sin of Sodom was PRIDE, not consensual sex, be it gay or str8.
GROW UP! You want to have your ears tickled with accepted sinful ideas and inherit the Kingdom of Heaven?

Notice you on purpose left out Genesis 19 where gays were after two angels for sex. Angels were sent to destroy Sodom because of sexual perversion. The angels caused sulphur to be rained down from heaven. Again, the pride of homosexuality, etc. caused Sodom to be destroyed by sulphur coming down from heaven.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...

“ WOOF ! ”

Since: Nov 12

Coolidge, AZ

#105 Mar 30, 2013
Eileen Jael wrote:
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GROW UP! You want to have your ears tickled with accepted sinful ideas and inherit the Kingdom of Heaven?
Notice you on purpose left out Genesis 19 where gays were after two angels for sex. Angels were sent to destroy Sodom because of sexual perversion. The angels caused sulphur to be rained down from heaven. Again, the pride of homosexuality, etc. caused Sodom to be destroyed by sulphur coming down from heaven.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...
And this affects your life how ???

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