Gay marriage

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman. Full Story

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#7965 Oct 23, 2013
And yet, the only identity you have to marriage is a piece of paper that denies reality. That's it.

And deep inside, you know your relationship is not the same. One more thing that was supposed to settle the unsettled sense of defect, and instead it rubs the wound raw.

What would happen if you faced the truth with courage? What if you didn't demand that people deny reality in the vain attempt to help you find yourself?
anonymous

Absecon, NJ

#7966 Oct 23, 2013
KiMerde wrote:
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Trolling. There is no government money and str8 couples aren't getting checks just for being married.
Yes, they are! But mostly they get tax breaks. Just because you live in one house does not mean that you don't deserve to be in a new income tax bracket. Dependents? That's fine. For the most part, the old income tax loopholes are closed too, but the inheritance ones are not.

That wouldn't be a problem either except I can't have the same tax break or insurance breaks in a shared financial arrangement that does not involve a sexual relationship. Also, older couples can pool resources late in life that they never worked together to make, giving them lower income tax status for most of their lives which they probably did not deserve if they simply chose to marry very late. Throw in a quick loophole on inheritance and it is just sloppy government with no redeeming value.

The tax laws never stop changing because people never stop gaming the system.
anonymous

Absecon, NJ

#7967 Oct 23, 2013
Equal wrote:
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It's not even a choice to be gay. If I had a choice I most definitely would not be gay
Blah! Blah! Blah!

You always have the choice. You just indulge your compulsive behavior. You're not unique, but you represent about 1 to 2 percent of the population and your habits are very disruptive without providing any value other than political value to fringe elements.

It is not illegal to be gay, but gay marriage is an official endorsement of a minor psychological problem that will ultimately lead to absolutely lunatic agendas for gay affirmative action and special protections of public sexual conduct enforced by law.

It's all about money. If it wasn't about money, you'd keep your mouth shut. By your own words, you don't want to share your habits with everyone, so why do you need public recognition?

M....O....N....E....Y.....!!!

Next week, you'll demand a 24 hour police escort while you put the moves on everyone at the office....but that's next week.
Equal

Selden, NY

#7968 Oct 23, 2013
Okay, I think this conversation got a little too out of it. I don't care if your for gay marriage or not, don't tell people to kill themselves. And I'm done KiMare saying mean things to you. We have a debate by presenting each of our sides, not saying mean things, and in the end if you still don't agree with me, then thats fine. I'll put myself in your position and think of it from your perspective, if you think of it as if oh were in my perspective. So besides not being able to reproduce, can you make a simple, small list of why we shouldn't have gay marriage?
Equal

Selden, NY

#7969 Oct 23, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Blah! Blah! Blah!
You always have the choice. You just indulge your compulsive behavior. You're not unique, but you represent about 1 to 2 percent of the population and your habits are very disruptive without providing any value other than political value to fringe elements.
It is not illegal to be gay, but gay marriage is an official endorsement of a minor psychological problem that will ultimately lead to absolutely lunatic agendas for gay affirmative action and special protections of public sexual conduct enforced by law.
It's all about money. If it wasn't about money, you'd keep your mouth shut. By your own words, you don't want to share your habits with everyone, so why do you need public recognition?
M....O....N....E....Y.....!!!
Next week, you'll demand a 24 hour police escort while you put the moves on everyone at the office....but that's next week.
Why would I choose to be gay, if it was about money wouldn't i just choose to be straight and just get the benefits that way. We didn't choose to be this way.

On the other hand what are you joking! Money has never crossed my mind personally, and it's about showing your love for the other person. You however must marry because of the monetary benefits? We just want to be treated like everyone else. What's wrong with wanting to be just like everyone else. And what happens if your significant other is in the hospital, you may not be able to see them because you are not legally considered family. There are many stories on people not being able to visit their loved ones, as they died and If you look it up you will surely find many stories.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#7970 Oct 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
And yet, the only identity you have to marriage is a piece of paper that denies reality. That's it.
And deep inside, you know your relationship is not the same. One more thing that was supposed to settle the unsettled sense of defect, and instead it rubs the wound raw.
What would happen if you faced the truth with courage? What if you didn't demand that people deny reality in the vain attempt to help you find yourself?
And yet, that piece of paper is all ANY couple has which identifies them as legally married.

The reality is I'm married; everyone I know sees me as married, including family, friend, neighbors, and the govt.

What would happen if you faced to the truth that there isn't anything you can do about it?

Would you then finally kill yourself? We all hope so.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7971 Oct 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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And yet, that piece of paper is all ANY couple has which identifies them as legally married.
The reality is I'm married; everyone I know sees me as married, including family, friend, neighbors, and the govt.
What would happen if you faced to the truth that there isn't anything you can do about it?
Would you then finally kill yourself? We all hope so.
Really?

Many couples have the piece of paper and no semblance of a marriage.

Ss couples have no semblance of a marriage ever.

Why would you want me dead if you didn't know what I am saying is true?

Admit it. You are not married. Your relationship is an oxymoron.

We ALL know it.

Smile.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#7972 Oct 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
And yet, the only identity you have to marriage is a piece of paper that denies reality. That's it.
And deep inside, you know your relationship is not the same. One more thing that was supposed to settle the unsettled sense of defect, and instead it rubs the wound raw.
What would happen if you faced the truth with courage? What if you didn't demand that people deny reality in the vain attempt to help you find yourself?
Hunty, the denial is ALL YOURS. We're married, in each and every sense of the word. You're the one who is denying that, so the denial is all yours.

What have your rants been able to do to slow the progress of marriage equality?

You're still an impotent internet troll with no power over anyone.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#7973 Oct 23, 2013
KiMare wrote:
There are core identities, common to all heterosexual couples that SS couples cannot equate to. Clearly distinct relationships. You know this, but feign ignorance.
Isn't it cute how you divert from the topic at hand? Apparently, you can't offer a valid argument against equality, so you attempt to skew the topic. That's pretty pathetic.
anonymous wrote:
Are you asking for a "Big Boy" argument along the lines of "They get gubbermint money, so I deserve some too!"?
Yeah, that's pretty much what expect from your witless banter.

Let me know when you are ready to offer a big boy argument.

The "gubbermint money" argument is pretty juvenile.

Since: Mar 11

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#7975 Oct 23, 2013
fr Wondering:

>Gay couples can't create families. Children must be acquired another way.<

My wife and I are a very happy lesbian FAMILY. Grow UP and get a life.

Since: Mar 11

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#7976 Oct 23, 2013
fr KiMare:

>...Many couples have the piece of paper and no semblance of a marriage.

Ss couples have no semblance of a marriage ever....<

Many couples ARE married and choose to not have children. Please have mommy explain the real concept of family to you.

“Vita e' Bella.”

Since: May 12

Location hidden

#7977 Oct 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Families can be created through multiple means, including marriage, male-female reproduction, adoption, in vitro fertilization, surrogacy, etc, etc.
What the "etc., etc."?
The lame attempts by anti-gays to denigrate our families is one of the main reasons we won federal recognition of our marriages.
Keep up the good work!
Yet you denigrate plural marriage families, odd.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

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#7978 Oct 24, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
Hmmm, and yet the courts all disagree with your constitutional interpretation. What a shocker!
Our laws are written by legislators, not courts. The courts have refused to obey law and force a new standard of sex segregation on marriage without the consent of the governed.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

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#7979 Oct 24, 2013
Real marriage has always been and will always be a committed relationship between one man and one woman. Demanding it ain't so doesn't make it so.

It is the only relationship that reproduces naturally, a father and mother raising their children.

It is the only relationship that is the birthing place of every single other type of relationship.

It is the only relationship that reunites two completely unique parts. A complimentary union, instead of a duplicated half.

It is the only relationship that sexually fit together by design. There is no abusive violation of design.

It is the only relationship that restores a male and female to the very original roots of our creation, pre-gender.

It is the only union that blends two different genders bringing perfect balance. A same gender union lacks diversity and is off balance.

All this says nothing about the cultural, historic and religious distinctions that marriage wholly embraces.

It clearly has, needs and deserves a special and unique definition. It is absurd and sacrilegious to equate ss couples.

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#7980 Oct 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
Real marriage...
Real Americans support equal protection of the law for all.

Are you a real American?

Brave Americans can support equal protection of the law even for those who believe differently from themselves. That is what some call real freedom.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7981 Oct 24, 2013
lides wrote:
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Real Americans support equal protection of the law for all.
Are you a real American?
Brave Americans can support equal protection of the law even for those who believe differently from themselves. That is what some call real freedom.
Real American men don't impose a impostor relationship on women and children.

Man up lides!
anonymous

Absecon, NJ

#7982 Oct 24, 2013
Equal wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would I choose to be gay, if it was about money wouldn't i just choose to be straight and just get the benefits that way. We didn't choose to be this way.
On the other hand what are you joking! Money has never crossed my mind personally, and it's about showing your love for the other person. You however must marry because of the monetary benefits? We just want to be treated like everyone else. What's wrong with wanting to be just like everyone else. And what happens if your significant other is in the hospital, you may not be able to see them because you are not legally considered family. There are many stories on people not being able to visit their loved ones, as they died and If you look it up you will surely find many stories.
...and you're incapable of expressing your love without gubbermint endorsement of your relationship? I've already said, make all forms of financial pooling of resources a civil union that has no basis on sexual relationships.

I really don't like liars.
anonymous

Absecon, NJ

#7983 Oct 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
Real marriage has always been and will always be a committed relationship between one man and one woman. Demanding it ain't so doesn't make it so.
It is the only relationship that reproduces naturally, a father and mother raising their children.
It is the only relationship that is the birthing place of every single other type of relationship.
It is the only relationship that reunites two completely unique parts. A complimentary union, instead of a duplicated half.
It is the only relationship that sexually fit together by design. There is no abusive violation of design.
It is the only relationship that restores a male and female to the very original roots of our creation, pre-gender.
It is the only union that blends two different genders bringing perfect balance. A same gender union lacks diversity and is off balance.
All this says nothing about the cultural, historic and religious distinctions that marriage wholly embraces.
It clearly has, needs and deserves a special and unique definition. It is absurd and sacrilegious to equate ss couples.
Jeese, when you post poetry, you don't even need the parse bunny to chop up your delusions for you. It comes pre-packaged!

It wouldn't be so bad if you were preparing some sort of logical progression but this is pure Fluffernutter!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#7984 Oct 24, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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Jeese, when you post poetry, you don't even need the parse bunny to chop up your delusions for you. It comes pre-packaged!
It wouldn't be so bad if you were preparing some sort of logical progression but this is pure Fluffernutter!
What in hell makes that poetry?

No wonder you don't comprehend a list of facts when you see them!
anonymous

Absecon, NJ

#7985 Oct 24, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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What in hell makes that poetry?
No wonder you don't comprehend a list of facts when you see them!
No wonder you have no clue as to the definition of a "fact".

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