Gay marriage

Full story: Los Angeles Times

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.
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Alan is an anarchist. He likes to think that he is a Libertarian but he really can't understand the difference between personal moral values and the inability to control one's impulses when one is among strangers. He just bonded with gays who took him to bars and introduced him to gals when he was underage. He's more than half way to being "born gay" but I suppose that depends on whether or not the gals are still putting out.
I can't say as I'm too big on your tendency to consider morality absolute either, but I'm a bit of a sadist in my old age. I've spent too much of my life trying to empathize with people like you and people like Alan who really aren't any different, just one-way streets who think rules matter when it suits them.
Why should anyone control their impulses? You don't. As long as we do not violate the rights of others you have no say in how other people wish to live their lives.

Right now for instance, it is Fathers day and we are done with dinner and I did not control any impulse to have a second piece of BBQ'd chicken. My cousin [the gay one who lives with me] is out back with 11 of his friends sitting in the hot tub. The hot tub holds 8, do the math. Why do I have a say about his impulses? I don't. All I care about is he remembers to put the chlorine in the tub after he is done because the pool boy won't be here til next Friday. If gay people want to live their lives differently than how you think they should then I say good, flaunt it girls.

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So.... is there any doubt here that this whole debate is all about getting gubbermint money and keeping others from getting any?
Maybe for corrupt morally bankrupt scumbags such as yourself it is all about the money, but many gay people are good decent people who deserve a little respect and for them it is about respecting their rights and leaving them alone in peace with their loved ones.

Leaving other alone is not something you are any good at. You are just as bad as the organized anti-gay haters who try to influence politicians in passing unconstitutional laws against the peaceful activities of consenting adults. That is something you would be ashamed of if you weren't morally bankrupt and part of a crime against humanity.

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What about his nuts? Are they the size of peas? I suspect his brain is about the same size.

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and right over to george's wife. Race was not really a issue because peruvians are a negro sephardic(latino) asian incan hasidic mix--the hasidic ones pretty much belong a organization called the bnai moshe. It was a prostitution/community action mixture and the porn aspect was not mentioned in court.
Racist A Hole! All you talk about is
race.....

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“Married” Homosexuals Go to Trial for Raping Adopted Boys
Prosecutors in Pine County, Minnesota have charged Christian leader Victor Barnard with 59 counts of sexual misconduct involving two of his underage followers.
Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.
Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.
Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd , an active member of his church, was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.
Republican judge and Christian leader Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.
Republican Sunday School teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.
Republican campaign worker active church member Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls who attended his church.
Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls after they attended Sunday School.
Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison. David Swartz is an active member of his church.
Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo, a devout Christain. was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.
Republican Christian anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

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Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.
Republican Christian anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.
Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl in the basement of the church he attended.
Republican racist pedophile and devout Christian, United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.
Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.
Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl he met at his church.
Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor he met at his church and sentenced to one month in jail.
Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.
Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.
Republican Christian activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.
Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor from his church who was working as a congressional page.
Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti, an active member of his church, was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.
Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody at a local church by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.
Republican Senate candidate, and active member of his church, John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

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*Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.
Republican election board official Kevin Coan, an active member of his church, was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.
Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).
Republican anti-abortion Christian activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.
Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl who was in his Bible study group.
Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters before dropping them off for Sunday School.
Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.
Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.
Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.
Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.
Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.
Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.
Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.
Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding, an active member of his church pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.
Republican Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld authorized the rape of children in Iraqi prisons in order to humiliate their parents into providing information about the anti-American insurgency.
Republican serial killer Ted Bundy was hired by the Republican Party
Republican Party Chairman Sam Walls, who is married, was urged to drop his candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up in women's clothing
Republican preacher Jimmy Swaggart preached fidelity, but cheated on his wife with a prostitute
Republican Congressman Bob Livingston was about to vote for impeaching President Clinton for sexual improprieties until it was disclosed he was an adulterer
Republican Congressman Henry Hyde denounced President Clinton's extramarital affair, but was later found to be an adulterer himself
Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.
Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger allegedly had sex with a 16 year old girl when he was 28.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.
Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
Republican talk show host Jon Matthews of Houston was indicted for indecency with a child, including exposing his genitals to a girl under the age of 17.

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You want to eat his nuts? Ewwww!!
You have eaten worse things.

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What's your point? Some people are really, really monsters. Take this heterosexual couple, for instance:
Adoptive parents sentenced in the rapes of their two children
(CNN)-- A Massachusetts HUSBAND and WIFE were each sentenced to prison Monday after being found guilty last month of raping their two adopted children.
Joseph Mayotte, 50, sexually abused his daughter over a five-year span, starting when she was 8, according to a news release from prosecutor Joseph D. Early Jr.
Mayotte was convicted in August on 11 charges -- including rape of a child aggravated by age difference -- and was sentenced Monday to 16 to 20 years in prison.
His wife, Linda Mayotte, was convicted on 19 charges -- including three counts of rape of a child -- and sentenced from 18 to 22 years behind bars.
The 49-year-old became pregnant with her adopted son's child when he was only 15, according to Paul Jarvey of the Worcester County District Attorney's Office. It was a pregnancy she carried to term, Jarvey said.
"Let them burn in hell," is what the son, now 21, said of his former parents in an impact statement read in court today, according to Jarvey.
The Mayottes, who lived in the central Massachusetts town of Northbridge, were arrested in 2009. The two adopted children -- along with the child to whom Linda Mayotte gave birth -- were adopted by other families.
"Their trust was broken by these two predators," Early's statement said. "Now, justice has been served."
That is how you fight back against the lies posted by the anti-gay hate groups. Good post. Anti-gay hate group leaders would like to convince the world that gays are the problem, however as your post shows gays are not the problem. The following posts show gays are not the problem either:

Homeland Security announces arrest of 71 child porn consumers, including Rockland County Boy Scout leader Posted May 21st, 2014
HSI New York announces arrest of 71 individuals for sexual exploitation crimes against children in ‘Operation Caireen;’ Federal, state charges include possession, distribution of child pornography

Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

Several of the defendants facing charges held positions of public trust, including two police officers, two registered nurses, a paramedic, an au pair, and Silber, who served as both a den master with the Boy Scouts of America and a little league baseball coach.
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What are you doing for Fathers Day? Isn't Fathers Day the day more people BBQ than any other day? My dad asked us to do nothing more than a nice BBQ and my son says the same thing. My cousin invited a couple of gay fathers over with their kids to swim and join us in the BBQ. I always enjoy having lots of people over.
That's great, I hope you had a great BBQ too!

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I see by the "judge-its" my post got that many rainbow club members "Disagree" that heterosexual and homosexual adults should be free to form their choice of family life. Simply because I said it. Priceless. You clowns just said you shouldn't be free to gay marry. Duh!
This is why I like you silly jackasses
I noticed that too Frankie. Posts supporting gay marriage get way more negative judge-its than do anti-gay hate filled posts.

I suspect comrade sheepie, the judge-its queen is behind it.
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Do you think this is news? lideszilla has a long history of this, deal with it, or don't. Your choice.
Don't shoot the messenger. Not much to deal with anyway. Lides is just another trivial troll who just comes here to be vulgar with people.

Now, if it were an issue of dealing with the secret police, I'm always open to ideas.

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I see by the "judge-its" my post got that many rainbow club members "Disagree" that heterosexual and homosexual adults should be free to form their choice of family life. Simply because I said it. Priceless. You clowns just said you shouldn't be free to gay marry. Duh!
This is why I like you silly jackasses
I asked my gay cousin to drop off a couple bottles of our award winning wine to a friend of mine, who lives next door, on his way back from the store. He is straight and has no problems with gay people in general or my gay cousin in particular. He drove over to thank me for the wine saying his guests loved the two bottles. He also said he told them the "wine fairy" left them. He said this in front of my gay cousin and he was devastated that someone he liked and trusted would call him a fairy. But that is not the case. We talk about the tooth fairy, and it is common usage to say the good fairy left something nice blah blah blah. Anyway my friend and neighbor went to great lengths to explain it was not an anti-gay slur, but that he meant fairy like magical being and not anti-gay slur. Needless to say both of them were extremely uncomfortable and my cousins reaction really put a downer on what was should have been a very pleasant visit. My neighbor is beside himself wanting to know how to make amends for being so thoughtless. If I had delivered the wine I would have laughed that he had tricked his guests, by calling me the wine fairy.

Sometimes mistakes happen and people see slight where none is intended. I am sure my neighbor will never use the word fairy ever again. This was painful for all of us. My cousin has got over it and called our next door neighbor and talked it out like adults, all is well now.
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Reverend Alan wrote:
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You have eaten worse things.
Tsk! Tsk! The wheel turns and Alan takes up empty trolling.

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<quoted text>I've learned to ignore most of lides posts. Time's too short for irrationality.
As much as I disagree with you Brian G, I have to agree with you about lidezilla's posts. Lidezilla is inconsistent and often irrational.

When I talk about the individual he changes it, like you do, to groups of people he has labeled. While I see individuals, you don't, and neither does lidezilla, you both see gays and straights, and you each believe each group has different rights from one another.

This is very disturbing to me as you are both individuals and you each have the same identical rights and neither of you has the right to tell the other one how to live his lives.

When you see a gay person you see a homosexual while I see an individual. When lidezilla sees a Libertarian he sees someone who would take away what he perceives is his right to use force against those who disagree with him, instead of an individual.

Putting people in groups and labeling them is very inhumane and is what leads to discrimination.
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Maybe for corrupt morally bankrupt scumbags such as yourself it is all about the money, but many gay people are good decent people who deserve a little respect and for them it is about respecting their rights and leaving them alone in peace with their loved ones.
Leaving other alone is not something you are any good at. You are just as bad as the organized anti-gay haters who try to influence politicians in passing unconstitutional laws against the peaceful activities of consenting adults. That is something you would be ashamed of if you weren't morally bankrupt and part of a crime against humanity.
You imply that they don't get respect. You imply that you know what I do in the real world.

....and it IS ALL about the money. It's all about the money for the gays. It's all about the money for the good ol' boy family men. It's all about the money for Hillary Clinton. It's all about the money for you. You just don't realize it yet.

You're still living off your parents, aren't you? You talk a lot about buying beach houses and such, but I'm guessing that you are just along for the ride, vicariously talking about your parents experiences as if they were your own. Right?

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You say "sick filthy pervert" like that's a bad thing...
His intolerance is offensive to sick filthy perverts. Good post Rose.

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You don't have to be able to procreate in order to marry.
Why keep bringing it up?
Peepee head keeps bringing it up because his brains and his testicles are the same size as a small garden pea.

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Fortunately for you, Brian, you can lie and be irrational at the same time as so many of your posts demonstrate.
This is true, however it doesn't make lidezilla's posts rational and believable.
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Rose_NoHo wrote:
Jesus had two dads.
Yeah right and they are both black right? Unlike East L.A. where everyone has the the same D.N.A.. And just for the record East L.A. did pass a new law stating when you divorced you wife, She is still your sister and can still go to the next family reunion and pick out a new husband..

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