Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 60542 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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Uncle Sam

Beckley, WV

#42783 Apr 15, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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And Jesus's daddy told you to mind your own business:
1 Peter 4:15 KJV, "But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters."
Also:
Prov. 12:22, "Lying lips are an abomination to the Lord."
Prov. 19:9 RSV "A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who utters lies will perish"
Prov. 6:16 says, "there are 6 things the Lord hates, seven that are detestable to him" and the 19th verse says one of these is, "...a false witness who pours out lies and a man who stirs up dissension among brothers."
You have poor Bible exegesis. This must contribute to your misunderstanding of the sin of acting on homosexual feelings.

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Santa Monica, CA

#42784 Apr 15, 2014
Pietro Armando wrote:
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http://preaprez.files.wordpress.com/2013/12/b...
According to you, "mother" and "father" would violate the 14th amendment.
Not true, I never said that.


Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#42785 Apr 15, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
Thought police on patrol
By Charles Krauthammer, Published: April 11
Two months ago, a petition bearing more than 110,000 signatures was delivered to The Post, demanding a ban on any article questioning global warming...the left...
A con dumb's "life" is nothing but one long rant against "the left".
And they have to make a political issue out of every-fkn-thing.
Global warming in this case.
Go find a forum about global warming, I'm sure one must exist.

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#42786 Apr 15, 2014
Uncle Sam wrote:
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Sex other than between a man and women married to each other is a sin.
So you have made an idol of the Bible.

Great.

Good luck with that.

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#42787 Apr 15, 2014
Uncle Sam wrote:
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Like Down Syndrome is a variation in the human species. Is it good? Did God have a reason for it?
Get outta town with that straw-man.

How idiotic!

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#42788 Apr 15, 2014
Uncle Sam wrote:
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You have poor Bible exegesis. This must contribute to your misunderstanding of the sin of acting on homosexual feelings.
It is right on.

How about this exegesis?

According to the Bible, man is not supposed to live alone. What's more, David loved Johnathan more than he loved any woman. It is perfectly natural for a homosexual to seek companionship and intimacy with a person of the same sex.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#42789 Apr 15, 2014
Uncle Sam wrote:
Why by nature are couples attracted to each other? It's for the propagation of the human species. Homosexuality can not be normal since same sex couple cannot naturally reproduce.
Humans are tribal.
In fact, one of the deepest human fears is that of being abandoned and alone.
Human offspring are uniquely dangerous and resource intensive to raise, so a tribe who has a certain percentage of members who don't reproduce has a survival advantage.

And there is lots of same sex sex in nature!

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#42790 Apr 15, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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A con dumb's "life" is nothing but one long rant against "the left".
And they have to make a political issue out of every-fkn-thing.
Global warming in this case.
Go find a forum about global warming, I'm sure one must exist.
Brian represents morons who hide their head in the sand. There are over 12,000 peer reviewed studies showing negative human impacts upon global weather, often referred too as global warming.
Uncle Sam

Beckley, WV

#42791 Apr 15, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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So you have made an idol of the Bible.
Great.
Good luck with that.
Your wrong.
Uncle Sam

Beckley, WV

#42792 Apr 15, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Get outta town with that straw-man.
How idiotic!
It's a perfect analogy. Show where it is not.

Since: Apr 11

Santa Monica, CA

#42793 Apr 15, 2014
Bruno wrote:
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You can't respond to CLEAR LOGIC: A very clear explanation.
Yeah, a very clear explanation that had nothing to do with Brian's appealing to tradition.
Brian had no idea what the explanation meant. If he had, he would not of posted it.
Bruno wrote:
But still the gay supporters and gay cult refuses to listen and take in any logical argument, This only leads to the conclusion that they are arrogant, discriminating, closed minded and wear blinders when it comes to logical reasoning. They will not resond to anything they know is a logical retort. They use a famous gay ressponse "PROVE IT"
Appealing to tradition, as in "It's always been this way, so it's right", is a logical fallacy. Claiming that a scientific theory is true because it's passed many objective tests and has stood the test of time isn't the same type of argument.
Is that clear?
I'm guessing you've never taken a science class.
Uncle Sam

Beckley, WV

#42795 Apr 15, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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It is right on.
How about this exegesis?
According to the Bible, man is not supposed to live alone. What's more, David loved Johnathan more than he loved any woman. It is perfectly natural for a homosexual to seek companionship and intimacy with a person of the same sex.
Your Bible exegesis is not good as well.

Homosexuals, like heterosexuals, need control their lust. All persons must control their sexual desires outside of a marriage between a man and a woman.

There are eunuchs who are born that way, some made that way by man and others who choose to be for the Kingdom of God. A person who can accept this for the Kingdom of God should accept it. This does not mean a person is to castrate themselves for the Kingdom of God, but, who for the Kingdom of God, refrains from legitimate and illegitimate sex.

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#42796 Apr 15, 2014
Uncle Sam wrote:
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Your wrong.
Here, read the Bible.

1 Peter 4:15

New King James Version (NKJV)

15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people’s matters.

Other people's private relationships are none of your business. Your misuse of the Bible in the abuse of other is a form of idolatry.

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#42797 Apr 15, 2014
Uncle Sam wrote:
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It's a perfect analogy. Show where it is not.
It is a typical straw man argument.

You are misrepresenting the argument making your statement a straw man fallacy.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman

http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-a-straw-man-a...
Uncle Sam

Beckley, WV

#42798 Apr 15, 2014
Rose_NoHo wrote:
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Humans are tribal.
In fact, one of the deepest human fears is that of being abandoned and alone.
Human offspring are uniquely dangerous and resource intensive to raise, so a tribe who has a certain percentage of members who don't reproduce has a survival advantage.
And there is lots of same sex sex in nature!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =sTXabN1pnZYXX
The size of the tribe would have been little impacted by homosexual members thus homosexuality would not have been a survival characteristic.

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#42799 Apr 15, 2014
Uncle Sam wrote:
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Your Bible exegesis is not good as well.
Homosexuals, like heterosexuals, need control their lust. All persons must control their sexual desires outside of a marriage between a man and a woman.
There are eunuchs who are born that way, some made that way by man and others who choose to be for the Kingdom of God. A person who can accept this for the Kingdom of God should accept it. This does not mean a person is to castrate themselves for the Kingdom of God, but, who for the Kingdom of God, refrains from legitimate and illegitimate sex.
Your opinion is totally worthless.

Homosexuality has to do with companionship rather than lust. You are quick to judge others which Matthew 7:1 warns against. Why are you discussing the Kingdom of God. You obviously know nothing about it. Why are you obsessing about other people's private sex lives? That is none of your business.

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#42800 Apr 15, 2014
Uncle Sam wrote:
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Your Bible exegesis is not good as well.
Homosexuals, like heterosexuals, need control their lust. All persons must control their sexual desires outside of a marriage between a man and a woman.
There are eunuchs who are born that way, some made that way by man and others who choose to be for the Kingdom of God. A person who can accept this for the Kingdom of God should accept it. This does not mean a person is to castrate themselves for the Kingdom of God, but, who for the Kingdom of God, refrains from legitimate and illegitimate sex.
Homosexuals and eunuchs are two different things, especially in the Bible.

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Santa Monica, CA

#42801 Apr 15, 2014
Bruno wrote:
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You really shouldn't talk about something you know nothing about. So please stop talking about the 14th Amendment.
Are you claiming the 14th Amendment doesn't say:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."?

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Uncle Sam

Beckley, WV

#42802 Apr 15, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Here, read the Bible.
1 Peter 4:15
New King James Version (NKJV)
15 But let none of you suffer as a murderer, a thief, an evildoer, or as a busybody in other people’s matters.
Other people's private relationships are none of your business. Your misuse of the Bible in the abuse of other is a form of idolatry.
That is not a form of idolatry. Making the bible a god is a form of idolatry. So you are wrong about me since I am not a fundie.

What else did St. Paul say:
Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men. 1 Cor 6:9 IV

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Uncle Sam

Beckley, WV

#42803 Apr 15, 2014
WasteWater wrote:
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Your opinion is totally worthless.
Homosexuality has to do with companionship rather than lust. You are quick to judge others which Matthew 7:1 warns against. Why are you discussing the Kingdom of God. You obviously know nothing about it. Why are you obsessing about other people's private sex lives? That is none of your business.
There is nothing wrong with a platonic relationship between same sex couples.

Why do you try to shut down conversation by asserting some straw man argument that this subject is none of my business? I am in no ones business, for we are not talking about anyone.

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