Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 61362 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#3149 May 9, 2013
anonymous wrote:
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There is no Constitutional right to the pursuit of happiness. The Constitution acts to protect such pursuits but not if they are in conflict with the happiness of others. Taxing single people to subsidize marriage is what is unconstitutional.
Really? Then why are you against allowing us to marry?

“N.E.R.D.”

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#3150 May 9, 2013
d pantz wrote:
<quoted text>you're right! GAY NAZIS FOR CHRIST! Amen brother!
Really I don't care, if homosexuals want tax credits they should fight with another large group of people who are denied too. Single people who make the free choice not to get married.
Freedom of expression is great because you can express yourself" and I can either laugh at you, or ignore you. LOL!
Gay Nazi's for Christ?!? Do you even know what you are writing? I feel sorry for you- I believe that friends I have can't change their sexual orientation but you can change the fact you are ignorant!!! It's funny how many in your camp claim you fight for freedoms but only for certain groups, kinda weird- font you think?

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#3152 May 9, 2013
anonymous wrote:
I don't respond to parsed comments.
And yet, here is yet another response to a "parsed" comment.

The reality remains that you seem to lack the ability to respond to specific criticism of the individual components of your argument, such as it is.
anonymous wrote:
Take your ransom note elsewhere.
BTW - Your link doesn't go anywhere relevant. To quote:
"For a court to apply strict scrutiny, the legislature must either have significantly abridged a fundamental right with the law's enactment or have passed a law that involves a suspect classification. Suspect classifications have come to include race, national origin, religion, alienage, and poverty."
That is exactly the point. What state interest is served by denying same sex couples equal protection of the law to marry that would render such a restriction constitutional?
anonymous wrote:
In other words, the courts must interpret the contradictions in existing laws.
So, now you are parsing the words of the US Supreme Court. Don't you find that slightly ironic coming from someone who doesn't respond to parsed posts?
anonymous wrote:
Fundamental right that's been compromised? None. You CAN marry but the state does not recognize it. Suspect classification? Don't see gays in that list.
Just another fantasy coming from the Joker!
Marriage has been held to be a fundamental right on 14 separate occasions by the US Supreme Court. You have offered no valid argument why same sex couples should be legally excluded, or denied equal protection of the laws. Similarly, you have failed to illustrate any legitimate state interest served by denying same sex couples such equal protection. inf act, you've failed to offer an argument that rises to the level of having a rational basis.

You have made yourself look foolish, bigoted, and ignorant, and left me with some concerns for primary education in my birth state.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#3153 May 9, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Then why are you against allowing us to marry?
Because you have no constitutional right to marry...
Pope Francis

San Francisco, CA

#3154 May 9, 2013
"Sweetie ,im sure i'll cope.As a straight person we can get married in any state,any country ,any religion any where in the world.I can also have biological children with the person i love and form a truly united family by blood and not have to resort to scientific methods or adoption which is something we generally have to do when we find out the devastating news we cant have kids.We also can have proper ,normal penetrative sex without the use of lubes ,sex toys ,or resorting to unhygenic ,disgusting ,unatural forms of sex with parts of the body that are not sex organs.
So even though other states will recognize your pretend marriages(as a true marriage is between a man and a woman)and let you go on pretending to try and live your lives like us ,you never will.Im sure people will respect you to your face ,and be nice to you ,but straight people will always think"theyre so nice but its such a shame that they're gay".

You mean I can have equal protection, rights, and dignity under the federal laws of the greatest country on earth, but I'll never have the personal approval of an anonymous illiterate from Vermont, Australia? You know what, I think that's going to keep me up at night! What is legal equality worth, if an imbecilic foreigner who can barely speak English thinks that it's a shame that I'm gay!

Seriously though, anonymous from Vermont, Australia, you bring up a great point because it's the ultimate fall-back of your side. Gays will win legal battles, win equal recognition, win social acceptance, and win in the history books, but a handful of you pathetic bigots will always think you've secretly got the upper hand because you get to be bigots inside your own minds or in your trailer parks, and you'll always believe that everyone else secretly shares your bigotry but doesn't have the courage to express it anonymously on a website like you. I hate to break it to you, but white supremacists in the USA today think the same way, and they're dead wrong, just like you will be in a few years.
Xavier Breath

Hoboken, NJ

#3155 May 9, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
Because you have no constitutional right to marry...
I can get married today, if I wanted to. Sort of makes you look stupid.
d pantz

United States

#3156 May 9, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
I can get married today, if I wanted to. Sort of makes you look stupid.
so could I, it doesn't make it a "constitutional" right. What's so "constitutional" about he government honoring one group with tax benefits over everybody else who makes a free choice to be single?
d pantz

United States

#3157 May 9, 2013
Pope Francis wrote:
"Sweetie ,im sure i'll cope.As a straight person we can get married in any state,any country ,any religion any where in the world.I can also have biological children with the person i love and form a truly united family by blood and not have to resort to scientific methods or adoption which is something we generally have to do when we find out the devastating news we cant have kids.We also can have proper ,normal penetrative sex without the use of lubes ,sex toys ,or resorting to unhygenic ,disgusting ,unatural forms of sex with parts of the body that are not sex organs.
So even though other states will recognize your pretend marriages(as a true marriage is between a man and a woman)and let you go on pretending to try and live your lives like us ,you never will.Im sure people will respect you to your face ,and be nice to you ,but straight people will always think"theyre so nice but its such a shame that they're gay".
You mean I can have equal protection, rights, and dignity under the federal laws of the greatest country on earth, but I'll never have the personal approval of an anonymous illiterate from Vermont, Australia? You know what, I think that's going to keep me up at night! What is legal equality worth, if an imbecilic foreigner who can barely speak English thinks that it's a shame that I'm gay!
Seriously though, anonymous from Vermont, Australia, you bring up a great point because it's the ultimate fall-back of your side. Gays will win legal battles, win equal recognition, win social acceptance, and win in the history books, but a handful of you pathetic bigots will always think you've secretly got the upper hand because you get to be bigots inside your own minds or in your trailer parks, and you'll always believe that everyone else secretly shares your bigotry but doesn't have the courage to express it anonymously on a website like you. I hate to break it to you, but white supremacists in the USA today think the same way, and they're dead wrong, just like you will be in a few years.
just wait. Your "equal protection" has you discriminatory yourself.
Pope Francis

San Francisco, CA

#3158 May 9, 2013
Against whom am I discriminating?
anonymous

Barberton, OH

#3159 May 9, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? Then why are you against allowing us to marry?
I never claimed to want to stop you. But I don't accept government tax breaks for your activities.
This is not an Affirmative Action issue. You were not "born gay". You chose "gay". Plain and simple! Plain and simple! Plain and simple!!!!
YOU WERE NOT BORN GAY! You made a choice. There is no gene that defines you. You can call it destiny but that doesn't mean that the government needs to give you a tax break.

Here's the two-plus-two. Remove government subsidies and tax breaks and I will allow the government to acknowledge your marriages. Better yet, remove government from the act of marriage, because that would absolve them of their unconstitutional meddling in religion, and I will let it all go.

When it comes to "MONEY", Ca-ching!, Swag!, kickbacks, or payola, I'd rather you all burn in hell! That's all that matters to the ape. Lesson learned. Never forget. Never give in!
anonymous

Barberton, OH

#3160 May 9, 2013
Pope Francis wrote:
"Sweetie ,im sure i'll cope.As a straight person we can get married in any state,any country ,any religion any where in the world.I can also have biological children with the person i love and form a truly united family by blood and not have to resort to scientific methods or adoption which is something we generally have to do when we find out the devastating news we cant have kids.We also can have proper ,normal penetrative sex without the use of lubes ,sex toys ,or resorting to unhygenic ,disgusting ,unatural forms of sex with parts of the body that are not sex organs.
So even though other states will recognize your pretend marriages(as a true marriage is between a man and a woman)and let you go on pretending to try and live your lives like us ,you never will.Im sure people will respect you to your face ,and be nice to you ,but straight people will always think"theyre so nice but its such a shame that they're gay".
You mean I can have equal protection, rights, and dignity under the federal laws of the greatest country on earth, but I'll never have the personal approval of an anonymous illiterate from Vermont, Australia? You know what, I think that's going to keep me up at night! What is legal equality worth, if an imbecilic foreigner who can barely speak English thinks that it's a shame that I'm gay!
Seriously though, anonymous from Vermont, Australia, you bring up a great point because it's the ultimate fall-back of your side. Gays will win legal battles, win equal recognition, win social acceptance, and win in the history books, but a handful of you pathetic bigots will always think you've secretly got the upper hand because you get to be bigots inside your own minds or in your trailer parks, and you'll always believe that everyone else secretly shares your bigotry but doesn't have the courage to express it anonymously on a website like you. I hate to break it to you, but white supremacists in the USA today think the same way, and they're dead wrong, just like you will be in a few years.
Nice, new way to parse!

Well, anyone can play the game of vengeance! It's not really my bag but then again, SOMEone introduced the monkey dominance game, therefore SOMEone needs to know who's in charge and SOMEone needs to know where they REALLY stand on a battlefield.

Think you're ready for chaos? Or perhaps you depend on the status-quo so much that you'll try to be yourself just once, and live in absolute terror for the rest of your days after revealing your secrets. Sickness is sickness. Denial is denial! Fate is fate. Eat! Just do what you have always done and EAT-EAT-EAT!

You've become a role model for liberals. SATISFY! EAT!

You're going to fail. Let us bless the years that follow where only a complete idiot would try to reenact those idiot times.

EAT!!!! Obey YOUR MASTER!
d pantz

United States

#3161 May 9, 2013
Pope Francis wrote:
Against whom am I discriminating?
unless you're trying to move the poverty line for a single person from 11 thousand to 54 thousand you are discriminating against single people. Why should they be treated any differently for making that choice?
Jason

Dallas, TX

#3162 May 9, 2013
My partner and I are engaged and getting married in August. Help us start our family :)

http://www.youcaring.com/adoption-fundraiser/...
d pantz

United States

#3163 May 9, 2013
Help me plan for a family one day and demand equal rights for single taxpayers!

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#3164 May 9, 2013
d pantz wrote:
unless you're trying to move the poverty line for a single person from 11 thousand to 54 thousand you are discriminating against single people. Why should they be treated any differently for making that choice?
Sweetie, the poverty level for a couple with no kids is only 14k, if singles were treated equally in that regard, we would have to drop theirs to just 7,000, not raise it.

lides

“No Headline available”

Since: Jan 08

Defiance, Ohio

#3165 May 9, 2013
Pope Francis wrote:
"im sure i'll cope.As a straight person
Actually, YOU, can cope as an ignorant, arrogant, idiotic, bigoted, moron.

Congratulations! For exposing this publicly.
common sense

Melbourne, Australia

#3166 May 10, 2013
lides wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, YOU, can cope as an ignorant, arrogant, idiotic, bigoted, moron.
Congratu
lations! For exposing this publicly.
Now now,no need to resort to name calling and having hissy fits as gay people usually do when confronted with the truth.
anonymous

Barberton, OH

#3167 May 10, 2013
common sense wrote:
<quoted text>
Now now,no need to resort to name calling and having hissy fits as gay people usually do when confronted with the truth.
No need to stereotype!... but why not?....considering the respect that comes natural in this environment.

Since: Mar 11

St. Croix valley

#3168 May 10, 2013
anonymous wrote:
<quoted text>
No need to stereotype!... but why not?....considering the respect that comes natural in this environment.
is there any reason to respect bigots? in fact, that would be a poor moral choice.
d pantz

United States

#3169 May 10, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, the poverty level for a couple with no kids is only 14k, if singles were treated equally in that regard, we would have to drop theirs to just 7,000, not raise it.
I'm not talking about single couples, single people. So in order to be fair to everyone we have to "raise" everyones taxes? Ok whatever ,as long as its fair I guess, but I bet we could find a way to reward single people for being single. Something that might help decrease the surplus population. I'm tired of getting 200 some dollars taken out of my paychecks when I need that money. That's over 200 a week and they give me back 900 at the end of the year. Why should I have to pay all that when I could use it to plan my future, being a family or just early retirement? Why? Why? Why should I have too and why do couples ( gay or straight) deserve it more than me? Explain it without sounding discriminatory.

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