Gay marriage

Gay marriage

There are 61393 comments on the Los Angeles Times story from Mar 28, 2013, titled Gay marriage. In it, Los Angeles Times reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court is considering two controversial cases involving whether same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry: Proposition 8, California's 2008 ban on gay marriage, and the Defense of Marriage Act, which since 1996 has defined marriage for federal purposes as a union between a man and a woman.

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#29614 Feb 21, 2014
Just Think wrote:
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Yawn.
There is zero evidence of this obvious lie.
You sad, lying troll.
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Then why is the entire pederast community among the most fervent supporters of gay rights? The cause of gay rights is to legitimize pederasty. Pederasts are fully behind the entire gay rights movement, and all the LGBT alphabet soup are standing shoulder-to-shoulder with them on this, either knowingly or naively to push the agenda to normalize homosexuality, of which pederasts will be the biggest beneficiaries. Pederasts will then be able to openly and aggressively recruit boys and young men into the gay lifestyle through politics, media, public relations and educational institutions…… pretty much like what they are doing already. Look how the film about pederast Harvey Milk had so much support and praise from the gay community.

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#29615 Feb 21, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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WOW! You two would make such a great gay couple! You are already fighting like a veteran couple!
One of the most prominent figures in modern church history, John Calvin, is strongly associated with a belief that is repugnant to most of Christendom, i.e., predestination. Most biblicists believe that God knows what will occur prior to the event but leaves man free to make the choice. In other words, men are free to choose what God already knows will happen. Calvin, on the other hand, stressed biblical pronouncements to the contrary. God doesn't just know ahead of time; he determines it; he fixes it; he plans it; it's his idea. In reality, Calvin viewed free will as myth. In so doing he highlighted one of the most serious, most prominent contradictions in biblical theology--free will versus determinism. His opponents rightly observed that the abolishment of free will destroys moral responsibility. But unfortunately for them literally scores of verses substantiate his position. An exhaustive list in descending order of strength would include the following:

(1) "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world,.... Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ himself, according to the good pleasure of his will" (Eph. 1:4-5),
(2) "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son,.... Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called...." (Rom. 8:28-30),
(3) "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord; and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed" (Acts 13:48),
(4) "But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth" (2 Thess. 2:13),
(5) "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his (not our) own will" (Eph. 1:11),
(6) "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Eph. 2:10),
(7) "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you" (John 15:16),
(8) "For God has not destined us for wrath, but to obtain salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ" (1 Thess. 5:9 RSV),
(9) "A man's heart deviseth his way: but the Lord directeth his steps" (Prov. 16:9),
(10) "He will carry out what he has planned for me, and of many such matters He is mindful" (Job 23:14 Mod. Lang),
(11) "Only, let every one lead the life which the Lord has assigned to him, and in which God has called him" (1 Cor. 7:17 RSV),
(12) "...your eyes saw my unformed body. All the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be" (Psalm 139:16 NIV),
(13) "Man's goings are of the Lord; how can a man then understand his own way?" (Prov. 20:24),
(14) "And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other" (Matt. 24:3l),(15) "...whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world,...." (Rev. 17:8),
(16) "And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire" (Rev. 20:15),
(17) "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent me draw him" (John 6:44),
(18) "...no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my Father" (John 6:65),
(19) "For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call" (Acts 2:39),

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#29616 Feb 21, 2014
Brian_G wrote:
"Keeping marriage one man and one woman means embracing diversity, integration and the perfect affirmative action ratio of 1:1.
Same sex marriage means sex segregation marriage, prejudice and inequality."...
No, stupid, it does not. People would still be free to marry someone of the opposite sex.
Brian_G wrote:
You think that's socialist? Because it acknowledges the significance of male/female differences and embraces equality?
Rights used to mean freedom, now it means new law redefining marriage. Both bourgeois and
bigoted against the ideal of one man and one woman marriage, the foundation of family.

Your parents divorced. So much for the foundation of the family, huh?

“Busting Kimare's”

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#29617 Feb 21, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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You mean the way God perfectly created people born with genetic deformities and intellectual deficiencies? Exactly like that? Actually, we are all sinners in God's eyes, and far from perfect.
Which heathen goddess do you bow down to?
Oh Chucky, if you had a brain you'd be dangerous.

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#29618 Feb 21, 2014
Quest wrote:
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The president doesn't "create" many laws. Are you talking about executive orders? Here is a list of those issued by recent presidents. Seems Obama isn't too high on the list.
Richard Nixon 346
Gerald R. Ford 169
Jimmy Carter 320
Ronald Reagan 381
George Bush 166
William J. Clinton 364
George W. Bush 291
Barack Obama 170
Oh, no! Facts!

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#29619 Feb 21, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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Then why is the entire pederast community among the most fervent supporters of gay rights? The cause of gay rights is to legitimize pederasty. Pederasts are fully behind the entire gay rights movement, and all the LGBT alphabet soup are standing shoulder-to-shoulder with them on this, either knowingly or naively to push the agenda to normalize homosexuality, of which pederasts will be the biggest beneficiaries. Pederasts will then be able to openly and aggressively recruit boys and young men into the gay lifestyle through politics, media, public relations and educational institutions…… pretty much like what they are doing already. Look how the film about pederast Harvey Milk had so much support and praise from the gay community.
Why is that anti-gay bigots are always the most "knowledgeable" about pederasty?
Got something that you're hiding, Chucky feather up yer bum?

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#29620 Feb 21, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
IT'S NOT THE VIRUS, STUPID!
Ha!...
Now we learn the whole HIV = AIDS = DEATH paradigm is a fraud.
AIDS is caused by recreational drug use, nothing else and HIV infects nothing.
In other words, the trillions of dollars spent searching for a HIV vaccine is a waste. Had this money been used for something else -- like finding a cure to cancer -- we might have cured cancer by now.
"Poppers" that's the enemy. African AIDS? Doesn't exist.
Of course it will take a few years before the LGBT community admits behavior NOT HIV causes AIDS -- and don't expect to see this admission in the pages of "The Advocate" where recreational drugs like "poppers" pay the bills.
Angry much? You ought to be. All your friends who are dead might have been saved had the LGBT community not promoted it's "It's the virus, Stupid!" ignorance.
Read it and weep, baby.
You are such a joke. You were promoting "It's the virus, Stupid!" in an attempt to demonize gay men. Now your promoting, "It's poppers" to try and demonize gay men. If you weren't such a vile POS, I'd pity you.

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#29621 Feb 21, 2014
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Interestingly enough, according to the Bible no biblicist is a Christian because none abide in Christ. Since none abide in Christ, how anyone can ever be saved becomes a logical question. Why can't people abide in Christ? Because everyone commits anti-social behavior, or what biblicists refer to as sin, and that excludes them summarily: "Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him" (1 John 3:6), "No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in him; he cannot go on sinning, because he has been born of God" (1 John 3:9 NIV), "We know that anyone born of God does not continue to sin, the one who was born of God keeps him safe, and the evil one does not touch him" (1 John 5:18 NIV). Obviously, then, no one has ever been born of God since all biblicists continue to sin, regardless. Until someone can demonstrate sinless perfection, abiding in Christ remains illusory.
And to make matters even worse from the biblicist's perspective, James 2:10 NIV says, "For whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it." Also note Matt. 5:19. Since every believer repeatedly stumbles on one point or another, all believers are equally immoral. In other words, while John alleges that any sin obviates any possibility of one abiding in Christ, James asserts everyone commits the most heinous of acts.
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Spoken like a true Satanist! Also, completely clueless, of course!

Matthew 19:24 Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.”

25 When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked,“Who then can be saved?”

26 Jesus looked at them and said,“With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

The Devil quotes scripture out of context while hiding the accurate understanding of it. Like the Devil, you quote scripture out of context, though I can't be sure whether you, too, have a correct understanding of it that you are hiding from us. I don't know whether you are deceived or deliberate. I would hope you are merely deceived, and your evil is not deliberate.

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#29622 Feb 21, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
Time to Censure Rev. Alan?
Up until recently I had no problem with Rev. Alan. His comments were generally well done and unlike many he had an actual point. Then he went off the deep end. He began spamming. It was strange and chilling -- like watching a train going over the cliff.
The point here, is we shouldn't encourage him. If he's beginning to lose his marbles, we should be enablers.

This being the way things are, I vote that everybody back off from him until he returns to earth. Don't read or respond to anything he posts. We must help the man not encourage his disintegration.
Thank you everybody for doing the right thing..
Pftttt...
You're talking about somebody else losing their marbles?

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#29623 Feb 21, 2014
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Why is that anti-gay bigots are always the most "knowledgeable" about pederasty?
Got something that you're hiding, Chucky feather up yer bum?
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Why am I not surprised that it is all anal with you?

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#29624 Feb 21, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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Christians are hostile to the implications of homosexuality, which is libertinism. If Christians are anti-gay, it is because God is anti-gay.
God doesn't exist.

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#29625 Feb 21, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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Yeah! And they LOVE IT! They keep coming back for more! I told you something is not quite right with them.
Fundies pretend they are being abused.

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#29626 Feb 21, 2014
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Oh Chucky, if you had a brain you'd be dangerous.
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Tell us! What heathen goddess do you bow down to?

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#29627 Feb 21, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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And that's the problem: Gays are infecting children with their evil ideology to aid the pederasts in their recruitment efforts to draw boys and young men into the gay lifestyle. And we all know this is true. Every pederast has tried to do that. Every single one!
The driving force behind the gay rights movement and the normalization of homosexuality is really the pederasts. Gay rights is really all about pederasty!
Rose's Law: Morons with no real argument scream, "But what about the children!?"

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#29628 Feb 21, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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One of the most prominent figures in modern church history, John Calvin, is strongly associated with a belief that is repugnant to most of Christendom, i.e., predestination. Most biblicists believe that God knows what will occur prior to the event but leaves man free to make the choice. In other words, men are free to choose what God already knows will happen. Calvin, on the other hand, stressed biblical pronouncements to the contrary. God doesn't just know ahead of time; he determines it; he fixes it; he plans it; it's his idea. In reality, Calvin viewed free will as myth. In so doing he highlighted one of the most serious, most prominent contradictions in biblical theology--free will versus determinism. His opponents rightly observed that the abolishment of free will destroys moral responsibility. But unfortunately for them literally scores of verses substantiate his position. An exhaustive list in descending order of strength would include the following:
(1) "According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world,.... Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ himself, according to the good pleasure of his will" (Eph. 1:4-5),
(2) "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son,.... Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called...." (Rom. 8:28-30),
(3) "And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord; and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed" (Acts 13:48),
(4) "But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth" (2 Thess. 2:13),
(5) "In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his (not our) own will" (Eph. 1:11),
(6) "For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them" (Eph. 2:10),
(7) "Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you" (John 15:16),
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There are good explanations for all those verses, which would be wasted on a useless troll such as yourself. You know, the thing about "casting pearls before swine." Too bad we can't have a good-faith discussion about this, because it is fascinating. But, knowing your obstinate hatred for the Bible, God, Christ and everything Christians, it would be a waste of my time.

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#29629 Feb 21, 2014
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Other Sexual Deviants are marginalized and nobody seems to care.
Prostitutes
Child Pornographers and Predators
Rose's Law...

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#29630 Feb 21, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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There are good explanations for all those verses, which would be wasted on a useless troll such as yourself. You know, the thing about "casting pearls before swine." Too bad we can't have a good-faith discussion about this, because it is fascinating. But, knowing your obstinate hatred for the Bible, God, Christ and everything Christians, it would be a waste of my time.
IOW, you can't counter Reverend Alan's arguments.

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#29631 Feb 21, 2014
Charlie Feather wrote:
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The gay agenda, of which rights for gays and gay marriage are a part of the arsenal, is really about the normalization of homosexuality, of which the pederasts will be the biggest beneficiaries. Gays aren't that interested in marriage, and they really do have all the rights that everyone has. What they don't have is a stigma-free image, and normalizing homosexuality should give them this. Freed from that stigma, pederasts will openly and aggressively recruit boys and young men into the gay lifestyle through politics, media, public relations and educational institutions…… pretty much like what they are doing already.
So True ...

And if you go to their male escort sites -- places like "Rent-A-Boy" -- you see the most blatant pedophilia imaginable. I suppose technically, all the models are over 18, but it's clear that the people behind the site select models who all look underage.

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#29632 Feb 21, 2014
Reverend Alan wrote:
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How about this: Homosexuality is a gift from God.
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Well, you already believe that God is evil – if He existed – so why not a poisoned gift?

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#29633 Feb 21, 2014
garylloyd wrote:
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So True ...
And if you go to their male escort sites -- places like "Rent-A-Boy" -- you see the most blatant pedophilia imaginable. I suppose technically, all the models are over 18, but it's clear that the people behind the site select models who all look underage.
Do you check out male escort sites frequently Gary? I wonder why that would be....

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