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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Frank

Spokane, WA

#180643 Nov 28, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The US Constitution does not say anything about requiring a 60 vote supermajority in order to get an official confirmed. In fact, it is quite clear that the supermajority idea is not what the Constitution intended. With the exception of treaties and impeachment trials, the Constitution assumes a simple majority vote in the Senate, as in the House. The Constitution doesn't say anything about filibusters either.
Why have a Senate, if the people that we voted for are not given an opportunity to debate on the floor? Congressional procedures were around long before Obama ever took office. Why do you think that Obama should conduct rules different than his three and half dozen predecessors? You are an obvious racist if you think that Obama should have a different set of rules just because his father was a Kenyan?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#180644 Nov 28, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Why have a Senate, if the people that we voted for are not given an opportunity to debate on the floor? Congressional procedures were around long before Obama ever took office. Why do you think that Obama should conduct rules different than his three and half dozen predecessors? You are an obvious racist if you think that Obama should have a different set of rules just because his father was a Kenyan?
Obama should have a different set of rules? The rules are given in the Constitution. Advise and consent. There is no 60% cloture rule in the Constitution. Incidentally, the Senate rules are Senate rules for the Senate adopted by the Senate, not Obama's rules.

Why have a senate if it is constantly bogged down in politically motivated filibuster. Flat out obstruction is not good faith debate, incidentally.
Ellen1 wrote:
<quoted text>
The US Constitution does not say anything about requiring a 60 vote supermajority in order to get an official confirmed. In fact, it is quite clear that the supermajority idea is not what the Constitution intended. With the exception of treaties and impeachment trials, the Constitution assumes a simple majority vote in the Senate, as in the House. The Constitution doesn't say anything about filibusters either.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#180645 Nov 28, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Why have a Senate, if the people that we voted for are not given an opportunity to debate on the floor? Congressional procedures were around long before Obama ever took office. Why do you think that Obama should conduct rules different than his three and half dozen predecessors? You are an obvious racist if you think that Obama should have a different set of rules just because his father was a Kenyan?
Tell me, Frank, what form of debate is reading Dr. Seuss in the Senate?

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#180646 Nov 28, 2013
...for hours and hours on end?
Grand Birther

Painesville, OH

#180647 Nov 28, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>What is your complaint? All Senators representing every state should have their opportunity to debate on the floor. What is Obama's complaint? Obama knows that he has a majority in Congress, his complaint is that the rest don't treat him like King,Emperor and dictator. Why should Obama be able to supersede or override The Constitution? Our Constitution has stood against tyranny for far more than two hundred years.
LOL, Fwank again displays his ignorance of Senate procedure.

All a senator has to do is write a nice note saying they intend to filibuster and cloture is invoked. No unlimited debate. No debate at all.

One whiny Republican scratches out a note on a Post-it and
the issue is dead. The lazy toads don't even have so much as to utter a single word.

Of course there's no mention of the filibuster in the Constitution. The only provision is that the Senate can make its own rules, which it did.

Of course the president does not have that power, but in Fwank's America the president is simultaneously a milquetoast apologist and an all-powerful dictator.

Fwank's version of America sure is schizophrenic.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#180648 Nov 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me, Frank, what form of debate is reading Dr. Seuss in the Senate?
You can't even let things 'slide'
ON
OUR A~M~E~R~I~C~A~N Thanksgiving ...

huh?

He read the Dr. Seuss "GREEN EGGS AND HAM!!!!"
for his daughters "bedtime" story ...

ya dipstick ...

And it went on to the REAL issues from that tale!

Politics More: Congress Ted Cruz Obamacare
Here Is Ted Cruz Reading 'Green Eggs And Ham' On The Senate Floor

During his marathon speech on the Senate floor Tuesday in opposition to funding the Affordable Care Act in the continuing resolution, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) took a break ... to read bedtime stories to his two young girls.

He said that his two daughters were watching C-SPAN2 at home — he told them to turn on the station at 8 p.m. Cruz read his daughters verses from the Bible. And then he moved on to the Dr. Seuss classic, "Green Eggs and Ham."

Jason Johnson, Cruz's chief campaign strategist, tweeted a photo of Cruz's daughters watching him on television at home:

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/video-ted-cruz...

I thought it was VERY "manly" of him
To include his family ...

Since he was taking TIME from them to
"DO the JOB"
FOR ALL AMERICANS
that ...
lesser *Americans* would NOT!

GOooo Ted Cruz & Mike Lee!

<3
American Lady

Danville, KY

#180649 Nov 28, 2013
Hope ALL American *Patriots*
had a
*Happy Thanksgiving*

I did ...
-n-
I'm STUFFED ...

Family is gone now to do other, more 'energetic' things.

;~)
Justice LRS

Shreveport, LA

#180650 Nov 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
"Can you hear us coming?" LMAO (LRS-Dale tm reg'd).
Don't you recall chanting, singing, mouthing, speaking, yelling, posting, "Can you hear us coming" pre-Nov 2012 election and oops, since then no more. Aren't you coming any more? What happened?
Just keep a close eye on those lap dogs. heh heh heh

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#180651 Nov 28, 2013
Stone-Tipped Spears Were Around Before Homo Sapiens -
See more at:
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/...

http://tinyurl.com/o6ao4xg
Frank

Spokane, WA

#180652 Nov 28, 2013
wojar wrote:
Stone-Tipped Spears Were Around Before Homo Sapiens -
See more at:
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/...
http://tinyurl.com/o6ao4xg
Obsidian from 700,000 BC to 1.5 million years ago has been found in what is now Kenya.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#180653 Nov 28, 2013
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't even let things 'slide'
ON
OUR A~M~E~R~I~C~A~N Thanksgiving ...
huh?
He read the Dr. Seuss "GREEN EGGS AND HAM!!!!"
for his daughters "bedtime" story ...
ya dipstick ...
And it went on to the REAL issues from that tale!
Politics More: Congress Ted Cruz Obamacare
Here Is Ted Cruz Reading 'Green Eggs And Ham' On The Senate Floor
During his marathon speech on the Senate floor Tuesday in opposition to funding the Affordable Care Act in the continuing resolution, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) took a break ... to read bedtime stories to his two young girls.
He said that his two daughters were watching C-SPAN2 at home — he told them to turn on the station at 8 p.m. Cruz read his daughters verses from the Bible. And then he moved on to the Dr. Seuss classic, "Green Eggs and Ham."
Jason Johnson, Cruz's chief campaign strategist, tweeted a photo of Cruz's daughters watching him on television at home:
Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/video-ted-cruz...
I thought it was VERY "manly" of him
To include his family ...
Since he was taking TIME from them to
"DO the JOB"
FOR ALL AMERICANS
that ...
lesser *Americans* would NOT!
GOooo Ted Cruz & Mike Lee!
<3
Let things slide? I mentioned the Dr. Seuss filibuster, is all. Slide? Why? Ashamed of Cruz's childish antics?

Happy Thanksgiving nonetheless.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#180654 Nov 28, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Let things slide? I mentioned the Dr. Seuss filibuster, is all. Slide? Why? Ashamed of Cruz's childish antics?
Happy Thanksgiving nonetheless.
He's a TRUE *Patriot*...
Just not a 'natural born citizen'
BETTER for the presidency than the 0
-n-
MORE qualified!

'you' don't
'butter me up'
AND
expect forgiveness ...

jockitch ...

I don't 'like'

Back Stabbers


;~)
wojar

Bristol, CT

#180655 Nov 29, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Obsidian from 700,000 BC to 1.5 million years ago has been found in what is now Kenya.
So?
bettygur

Pittsburgh, PA

#180656 Nov 29, 2013
youtube.com/watch... ………………… National Concern Snow-Den leeak
Obskeptic

Rochester, MI

#180657 Nov 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
That's it? That link proves, shows , that she is a communist? Would you like to re-state that?
Then, you agree that highways, education, military, police, spying, FBI, CIA, NSA, food protection, some health care, foreign affairs, etc should be individual choices? I chose to pay taxes to fund this highway, and YOU didn't, then you can't use it. I pay school taxes, YOU chose not to, then you can't send your kids there. You don't want to fund Foreign Affairs, then don't call on your embassy in a foreign land to provide consular assistance or renew your ppt.
There is a number of other links that show she is a sympathizer, but many would not qualify as legitimate to guys like you so I linked the one where in her own words she praises fellow communists like Van Jones. Leftist socialist don't praise those they disagree with or are not on the same team Jacques.

* RULE 5:“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.(Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
Obskeptic

Rochester, MI

#180658 Nov 29, 2013
wojar wrote:
Stone-Tipped Spears Were Around Before Homo Sapiens -
See more at:
http://www.iflscience.com/plants-and-animals/...
http://tinyurl.com/o6ao4xg
I am looking at purchasing a bow and arrow set from the early 1870's wojar that the Kiowa tribe made. The arrow tips in the set though were metal in composition at that time due to trading with the white man.I am still negotiating the price as it is a bit expensive. I want to hang it on the wall above my Sioux peace pipe from the 1880's that was gifted to Dwight Eisenhower and was briefly in the Oval Office before he re-gifted it to the gentleman that ran the Whitehouse kitchen. The American plains Indians have always fascinated me.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#180659 Nov 29, 2013
Frank wrote:
<quoted text>Obsidian from 700,000 BC to 1.5 million years ago has been found in what is now Kenya.
At long last, proof that Obama was born in Kenya. Thank you, Frank.

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#180660 Nov 29, 2013
Obskeptic wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a number of other links that show she is a sympathizer, but many would not qualify as legitimate to guys like you so I linked the one where in her own words she praises fellow communists like Van Jones. Leftist socialist don't praise those they disagree with or are not on the same team Jacques.
* RULE 5:“Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.(Pretty crude, rude and mean, huh? They want to create anger and fear.)
So, no proof that she is a communist. Okay. As to ridicule, you must admit that with birthers and many republicans, it just comes naturally, so easy. You have a guy reading Dr Seuss for hours on end in the senate, THAT's ridicule, but unfortunately, ridicule that put the gov't on a perilous path to default apocalypse.
Obskeptic

Rochester, MI

#180661 Nov 29, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
So, no proof that she is a communist. Okay. As to ridicule, you must admit that with birthers and many republicans, it just comes naturally, so easy. You have a guy reading Dr Seuss for hours on end in the senate, THAT's ridicule, but unfortunately, ridicule that put the gov't on a perilous path to default apocalypse.
There is plenty of proof Jacques. You leftists make accusations presented as fact all the time on these forums and at the same time dismiss things that conservatives present all the time even with evidence that its so. Are you suggesting that Valerie Jarret is some kind of Reagan conservative? Is there that much difference between the outcomes of a socialist that gets their way and a communist? Actually there is on that last statement. The communist have a penchant of murdering those that disagree with them politically, and the socialists only want too.
bettygur

Pittsburgh, PA

#180662 Nov 29, 2013
youtube.com/watch... … Now Just where to Edward Snow-Den go?

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