BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 230885 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179291 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques from Ottawa wrote:

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He has no source. He imagined it, sat on it, and actually believes it. He will ignore you request. Badger him. Then, after about 10 reminders, he will do one of two things :
1. He will tell you to find it yourself. I know that's weird and nonsensical, but that is what he will probably do, or ;
2. He will pull an LRS and tell you he's already answered it. You will ask him for the post number , he will tell you to find it yourself.
It's the birther way.
ActuaIIy wrote:
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I know. The 3 words that piss off republitards more than any others are:
Source
Specifically
Prove
Those are the catch words that turn most of these idiots into cowards running from a question.
Did Rogue give you his source, finally?
Ellen1

Dedham, MA

#179292 Nov 13, 2013
Dale wrote:
<quoted text>LMAO!!!
Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union? But the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort, with the most provident and judicious attention. They have not made the appointment of the President to depend on any preexisting bodies of men, who might be tampered with beforehand to prostitute their votes; but they have referred it in the first instance to an immediate act of the people of America, to be exerted in the choice of persons for the temporary and sole purpose of making the appointment. And they have excluded from eligibility to this trust, all those who from situation might be suspected of too great devotion to the President in office. No senator, representative, or other person holding a place of trust or profit under the United States, can be of the numbers of the electors. Thus without corrupting the body of the people, the immediate agents in the election will at least enter upon the task free from any sinister bias. Their transient existence, and their detached situation, already taken notice of, afford a satisfactory prospect of their continuing so, to the conclusion of it. The business of corruption, when it is to embrace so considerable a number of men, requires time as well as means. Nor would it be found easy suddenly to embark them, dispersed as they would be over thirteen States, in any combinations founded upon motives, which though they could not properly be denominated corrupt, might yet be of a nature to mislead them from their duty.(Federalist Papers #68)
Just look at what you democrats put into the White House, a Communist alien! You people and your cabal are trying to destroy this Republic for something that is not attainable (Utopia).
If it's Utopia you want, you missed the boat, "Heaven's Gate" personnel have already left the building.
Answer: A child born on US soil is not a FOREIGNER. She or he is a Natural Born US Citizen due to the place of birth. No exception is made for the US0-born children of foreigners. No exception is made for dual citizens (and in fact we have already had several dual citizens at birth US presidents, including Woodrow Wilson and Dwight D. Eisenhower).

If the writers of the US Constitution had meant to exclude the US-born children of foreign citizens. If they had considered that the US-born children of foreign citizens were security risks (as you allege that they did), then THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD US----and they didn't.

Yes, they excluded foreigners from becoming president, and they excluded naturalized citizens from becoming president. But they did not consider the US-born children of foreigners to be either foreigners or naturalized citizens---and, if they had, THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD US.

“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”

In the above statement, Bingham is just like Meese and Tucker and Rawle, and senators Hatch and Graham, and the Congressional Research Service, and every single member of Congress (not one of whom voted against confirming Obama's election in either 2008 or 2012 elections, and that includes Rep. Ron Paul and Rep. Michelle Bachmann).

“Bonjour Hello Buongiorno Hola”

Since: Feb 12

Ottawa

#179293 Nov 13, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
This is what a Muslim usurper and fraud wanted to happen!
MEDICAID FOR AL-QAEDA? Obamacare Flaw Allows Anyone on Earth to Fraudulently Enroll Through Healthcare.gov
Obama's easing of the non-citizen Medicaid enrollment process opens up Medicaid to being overwhelmed by fraud. This problem is compounded by the Navigator/Assister program being on the "honor system," and the scores of troubling Navigators/Assisters appearing on Healthcare.gov .(Also today, James O'Keefe reveals the inevitable results of this situation with an undercover sting operation.)
I know. Went for a doctor's visit the other day, waiting room was filled to capacity with Al Qaeda and Taliban fighters, armed to the teeth with assault weapons and grenades and...a OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan) card. Put the fear of God into me, never mind the firearms and grenades, it was the OHIP card that did it.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#179294 Nov 13, 2013
Is the National Guard still cleaning up the mess from the Republican Trucker's Rally to end the shut down? All the Tea Party sites told of how the President had called out the troops to prevent the rally from occurring. Boy, I hope everyone was okay.

Since: Feb 11

Nearer than you would like

#179296 Nov 13, 2013
http://www.teaparty.org/truckers-for-the-cons...

http://www.redstate.com/glennryt/2013/10/10/o...

When you get your 'facts' from the Tea Party, delusion is soon to follow.

Keep up the good work!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179297 Nov 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Persons born in the US owe allegiance to the US unless children of foreign diplomats. Been that way since day 1 of the republic.
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LMAO!!! Children born in the US of alien parents acquire the citizenship and allegiance of their father's country of origin. Just a fact you will have to live with.

This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons.
TrutherBirther

Delavan, WI

#179298 Nov 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
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Persons born in the US owe allegiance to the US unless children of foreign diplomats. Been that way since day 1 of the republic.
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If you had paid attention in HS Civics the "natural-born Citizen" requirement to even run for Prez was explained in full. BOTH parents must have been U.S. citizens at the time of birth on U.S. soil(not at some private facility in Panama or in Mombassa, Kenya). POS Obama isn't even American much less natural-born. Please Mr. B.H. Obama kill yourself so some patsy doesn't have to. Impeach the Kenyan-born Antichrist!
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179299 Nov 13, 2013
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>Pathetic irony as Dufus doesn't comprehend the sentence. Does Dufus ever wonder why no one after ratification of the 14th understood the comma according to Play Law English?
Tinker Bell!!! You really should find out what a comma is used for.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179300 Nov 13, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Then it apparently got Bingham:
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
And former Attorney General Meese (Attorney General for Ronald Reagan):
“Under the longstanding English common-law principle of jus soli, persons born within the territory of the sovereign (other than children of enemy aliens or foreign diplomats) are citizens from birth. Thus, those persons born within the United States are "natural born citizens" and eligible to be President. Much less certain, however, is whether children born abroad of United States citizens are "natural born citizens" eligible to serve as President ..."---- Edwin Meese, et al, THE HERITAGE GUIDE TO THE CONSTITUTION (2005)[Edwin Meese was Ronald Reagan’s attorney general, and the Heritage Foundation is a well-known Conservative organization.]
But you, untrained in the law, apparently see much more clearly than these two legal specialists, and TEN appeals courts, and the every single member of the US Congress (which confirmed Obama's election twice UNANIMOUSLY).
LMAO!!! Will you please show me English Common Law in the below.

The first amendment is to section one, declaring that all "persons born in the United States and Subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the States wherein they reside. I do not propose to say anything on that subject except that the question of citizenship has been fully discussed in this body as not to need any further elucidation, in my opinion. This amendment which I have offered is simply declaratory of what I regard as the law of the land already (Civil Rights Act 1866), that every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction (US Constitution), is by virtue of natural law 9Law of Nations)and national law (Civil Rights Act 1866) a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country.

The above was accepted in its entirety and ratified in 1868, becoming Constitutional Law.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179301 Nov 13, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: A child born on US soil is not a FOREIGNER. She or he is a Natural Born US Citizen due to the place of birth. No exception is made for the US0-born children of foreigners. No exception is made for dual citizens (and in fact we have already had several dual citizens at birth US presidents, including Woodrow Wilson and Dwight D. Eisenhower).
If the writers of the US Constitution had meant to exclude the US-born children of foreign citizens. If they had considered that the US-born children of foreign citizens were security risks (as you allege that they did), then THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD US----and they didn't.
Yes, they excluded foreigners from becoming president, and they excluded naturalized citizens from becoming president. But they did not consider the US-born children of foreigners to be either foreigners or naturalized citizens---and, if they had, THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD US.
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
In the above statement, Bingham is just like Meese and Tucker and Rawle, and senators Hatch and Graham, and the Congressional Research Service, and every single member of Congress (not one of whom voted against confirming Obama's election in either 2008 or 2012 elections, and that includes Rep. Ron Paul and Rep. Michelle Bachmann).
LMAO!!! Children born in the US of alien parents acquire the citizenship of their fathers, just as children born outside US limits of US citizens are US citizens.

Nor can it be doubted that it is the inherent right of every independent nation to determine for itself, and according to its own constitution and laws, what classes of persons shall be entitled to its citizenship.
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179302 Nov 13, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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Answer: A child born on US soil is not a FOREIGNER. She or he is a Natural Born US Citizen due to the place of birth. No exception is made for the US0-born children of foreigners. No exception is made for dual citizens (and in fact we have already had several dual citizens at birth US presidents, including Woodrow Wilson and Dwight D. Eisenhower).
If the writers of the US Constitution had meant to exclude the US-born children of foreign citizens. If they had considered that the US-born children of foreign citizens were security risks (as you allege that they did), then THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD US----and they didn't.
Yes, they excluded foreigners from becoming president, and they excluded naturalized citizens from becoming president. But they did not consider the US-born children of foreigners to be either foreigners or naturalized citizens---and, if they had, THEY WOULD HAVE TOLD US.
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
In the above statement, Bingham is just like Meese and Tucker and Rawle, and senators Hatch and Graham, and the Congressional Research Service, and every single member of Congress (not one of whom voted against confirming Obama's election in either 2008 or 2012 elections, and that includes Rep. Ron Paul and Rep. Michelle Bachmann).
LMAO!!! The only way for one to be "subject to the jurisdiction, thereof" is to be born here and not subject to any foreign power.
For all you know Putin has had one or more of his girls give birth in the US for the purpose of gaining access to the White House.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#179304 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques,
The guy could have been drinking too.
I mean, it wouldn't be the first time a pilot tried to fly a plane while he was intoxicated on alcoholic beverages.
The FAA has to keep an open mind and a neutral stance in making its determination as to the cause/causes of every crash and everything must be considered, from the weather and mechanical failure to pilot error and suicide.
The man may have been distraught or overly fatigued.
I think it was a combination of mechanical failure and pilot error.
Just doin' my job.
loose
Dale

Wichita, KS

#179305 Nov 13, 2013
Here is what a liberal wishes the 14th amendment said.

Section 1.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

That pesky requirement "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof" just gives them gas.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#179307 Nov 13, 2013
Jacques,
I may have mispoken.
It may be the NTSB that investigates crashes.
I think I will look that up.
loose
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#179308 Nov 13, 2013
Ellen1 wrote:
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That's right. The only persons born in the USA who are foreigners, are the children of foreign diplomats.
Everyone else born in the USA is a Natural Born US citizen.
“Who does not know that every person born within the limits of the Republic is, in the language of the Constitution, a natural-born citizen.” Rep. Bingham, The congressional globe, Volume 61, Part 2. pg. 2212 (1869)”
Obama has never proven that he is a Natural born citizen. Hell Obama has never proven that he is currently even a U.S. citizen.
Obama can't prove his alleged Hawaiian birth with fraudulent birth certificates.
The news about the President's signature legislative accomplishment continues to get worse.

A new poll by YouGov finds that more people trust Fox News for information about the so-called "Affordable Care Act" than trust President Obama:

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/20...
Truth Detector

Louisville, KY

#179309 Nov 13, 2013
A Quinnipiac poll released Wednesday proves beyond any doubt that the rolling ObamaCare debacle is exacting a toll on congressional Democrats that is every bit as devastating as the collapse in Barack Obama's poll numbers. Less than 45 days ago, Democrats enjoyed a 9 point lead in the generic congressional ballot, 43-34%. Today that number is tied at 39-39%.

This drop hasn't just wiped out any gains Democrats might have enjoyed after the media pounding the GOP took during the government shutdown. Democrats were ahead on this ballot going all the way back to July, when the GOP was at a 34-39% disadvantage.

It is highly likely that this poll will only further panic congressional Democrats who are already scurrying for cover away from ObamaCare.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#179310 Nov 13, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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More nonsense. Your myopic ignorance is not my problem
Yet you give me nothing Oblamer has done with republican support. Why is that?

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#179311 Nov 13, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Your ignorance is not my problem. If you wish to paste volumes of ignorance I suggest you strike up an exchange with another poster.
Well, well, the little lady proves herself to be just another cowardly liberal who likes to shoot her mouth off and can't back up anything she says. Why am I not surprised?

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#179312 Nov 13, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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More ignorance. Just scroll on past
More cowardice.

“no one told me”

Since: Dec 07

Denver

#179313 Nov 13, 2013
Learn to Read wrote:
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Did you avoid the question? Seems so
You've avoided every question, I did answer.

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