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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Indianapolis, IN

#133908 Dec 18, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>wrong!! Sorry, we can not prevent who are citizens of another country, especially when their fathers haven't any connections to this country, they are not subject to the jurisdiction of the US Constitution, this is only a right that a citizen has.
The US Government can not strip a citizenship from anyone unless requested by that individual, then they belong to the US.
What every court has fails to understand, the USSC can't change the US Constitution, the 14th has not changed since its ratification in 1868.
We have been told a lie long enough, Wong Kim Ark v US, was the biggest lie ever forced up our judicial system. Not one time did it fully explain the meaning of "and subject to the jurisdiction, thereof"! The jurisdiction over this Republic is the US Constitution, yes we are a Constitutional Republic, without this you are left with 50 separate nation, it is the law that binds us into one, the United States of America.
Wrong. You don't know shat.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133909 Dec 18, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>how do you get life, liberty and property.
Life, liberty and property are solely captitalist? What about all of Western Europe, upcoming Eastern Europe, Scandinivia, Japan,Australia, NZ, etc, that have had socialist govts in the past and that most of them still have - the best example is today's Switzerland - they have had and still don't have life, liberty and property?

Where do you get YOUR interpreation of life, liberty and property in your constitution interpreted to mean "capitalism"?
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133910 Dec 18, 2012
TeaPartyWoman wrote:
<quoted text>
You donated to Wikipedia?
You're a dumb dumb.
You're a tea party woman? Dumb, dumber and dumbest
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133911 Dec 18, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Quiet lil tard. You're a worthless damn troll. That's it. You know it as well as I. LMAO!!!!!
Say is sweet little t clms one of yours? LOL Sad, pathetic life you have troll. Sad indeed. Inexcusable really. You should be deeply ashamed of yourself. Well, wait a minute, considering your posts, they clearly illustrate those deficiencies of yours, don't they? Yep, SPOT ON!
My posts are mine. You plagiarized, got caught, shamefully so, and yet, no excuses, no "I'm sorry, I cheated"? You have to cut and paste to give an opinion on Japan, plagiarize. I don't. I know Japan, China, and the USA. You don't. SPOT ON!(LRS tm reg'd).See how one attributes?
gonond

Masontown, PA

#133912 Dec 18, 2012

Obama was born in Kenyan,,
Froggy

Jacksonville, FL

#133913 Dec 18, 2012
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc'-ra-cy)- a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. syn- socialism.
Unless we can get Obama out of the White House, this country is headed for ineptocracy.
The economic crisis in Greece is a classic example of the dangers of ineptocracy.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php...

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133914 Dec 18, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Please, please indicate the word "capitalism" to me in the Constitution, in the 14th.Please.
Please, please indicate the word "socialism" to me in the Constitution, in the 14th.Please.

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133915 Dec 18, 2012
Fed Up wrote:
75 Percent of Obama's Proposed Tax Hikes to Go Toward New Spending
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/75-percen...
Michael Savage on Obama sending 20 F-16 warplanes to Muslim Brotherhood-
https://www.youtube.com/watch...
Liberals and media will try to blame Sandy Hook shooting Ďon conservatives or Republicans,í Limbaugh warns [AUDIO]
http://dailycaller.com/2012/12/14/limbaugh-wa...
Obama administration, Congress quietly let school security funds lapse
http://www.washingtonguardian.com/washingtons...
Yea, we sell our obsolete jets fighters to countries like Egypt and Canada but before we sell them we have X_chips installed. That way we can disable the weapons systems on these aircraft from satellites.
We did this after the Shah of Iran was deposed and the American technicians that worked for Iran walked out with the planes' grey-boxes. Well, what good is a F-14 and the guns and missiles don't work?
Yes, Jacques, when our Navy stated to go to the C and D-model F/A-19's we sold some of our A and B-models to Canada!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133916 Dec 18, 2012
A lot of people don't know this but during the Korean War we got some F-86 Sabers from Canada. The Canadair Sabres versions has British engines and were superior to our early model F-86's.
But now days Canada usually gets our out of date, left over equipment.
Oh Jacques, hom many ships do the Canadian Navy now have and can you name "it"!

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133917 Dec 18, 2012
The Canadair version of our F-86 were the first with the flying-tail which allowed the jet to exceed the speed of sound in a dive whereas the Soviet MiG-15's could not pass through the transonic barrier.
I could get into the aerodynamic with you but it would take me a week to educated most of you that are capable of comprehending the subject. Oh, it was never the "sound barrier". It was the "transonic barrier" where air on one part of an airfoil, wing or tail would exceed the speed of sound while the other parts were subsonic.
The transonic barrier starts, on most planes, at about 95% of the speed of sound (or mach 0.95)

Canadair Sabre

Design and development

In 1948, the Canadian government decided to re-equip the RCAF with the F-86 Sabre and Canadair was contracted to produce them in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. An initial batch of 10 aircraft was ordered for tool verification. The Korean War changed this to a production batch of 100 aircraft. Canadair slowly built up its production facility to make all components with related equipment obtained from other Canadian suppliers. Canadair gave the Sabre the project number CL-13.
Canadair produced six versions of the CL-13 Sabre. The sole Sabre Mk.1 was essentially the same as the North American Sabre F-86A. It had a General Electric J47-GE-13 turbojet of 5,200 lbf (23 kN) thrust. The Sabre Mk.2 had the same engine, although after the first 20 aircraft were produced, the remainder of the production run was distinguished in having power-assisted controls and an "all-flying" tailplane. The sole Sabre Mk 3 was the first of the Canadian Sabres to use the Avro Canada Orenda turbojet (Orenda 3 with 6,000 lbf (27 kN) thrust). The Sabre Mk.4 retained the General Electric engine and was destined for the RAF and was later passed on to other overseas air forces. The Sabre Mk.5 was the next production version, equipped with an Orenda 10 with 6,500 lbf (29 kN) thrust. A change to the Orenda 14 with 7440 lbf (33 kN) powered the Sabre Mk.6. The designation Sabre Mk.7 was mainly experimental.[clarification needed]
The last Sabre to be manufactured by Canadair (Sabre #1815), after being donated by the Pakistan Air Force, is now part of the permanent collection in the Western Canada Aviation Museum (WCAM) in Winnipeg, Manitoba.[citation needed] From 1950 to 1958, a total of 1,815 CL-13 Sabres were built at the Canadair plant in Montreal.
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Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133918 Dec 18, 2012
Did Hillary really get sick much less bump her head? Or is this just a charade so she does not have to testify before Congress?
Obama promised Congress that his administration would provide them with a full written report within 45-60 days after the Benghazi embassy attack. Well, it is now over 100 days and we are still waiting!
What is Obama hiding?!?

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#133919 Dec 18, 2012
There is some specialization that the F-86 actually exceeded the speed of sound before Chuck Yeager did in the X-1!

Women's speed records
In 1952, Jacqueline Cochran, then aged 47, decided to challenge the world speed record for women, then held by Jacqueline Auriol. She tried to borrow an F-86 from the U.S. Air Force, but was refused. She was introduced to an Air Vice-Marshal of the RCAF who, with the permission of the Canadian Minister of Defence, arranged for her to borrow 19200, the sole Sabre 3. Canadair sent a 16-man support team to California for the attempt. On 18 May 1953, Ms. Cochran set a new 100 km speed record of 1,050.15 km/h (652.5 mph). Later on 3 June, she set a new 15 km closed circuit record of 1078 km/h (670 mph). While she was in California, she exceeded 1270 km/h in a dive, and thus became the first woman to exceed the speed of sound.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_Sabre
also,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cochrane_wi...
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133920 Dec 18, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Life, liberty and property are solely captitalist? What about all of Western Europe, upcoming Eastern Europe, Scandinivia, Japan,Australia, NZ, etc, that have had socialist govts in the past and that most of them still have - the best example is today's Switzerland - they have had and still don't have life, liberty and property?
Where do you get YOUR interpreation of life, liberty and property in your constitution interpreted to mean "capitalism"?
cont'd...

According to Wikipedia, CAPITALISM : "The Hollandische Mercurius uses capitalists in 1633 and 1654 to refer to owners of capital.[25] In French,…tienne Clavier referred to capitalistes in 1788,[28] six years before its first recorded English usage by Arthur Young in his work Travels in France (1792"

For LRS, in order to avoid charges of gross and crass plagiarism, you must quote the site (above) and link : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism

For history and constitution-challenged Justice ha ha Dale, omg, yes, ha ha, you see the word capitalist or capitalism in the constitution even though it was first used in English, no doubt in England, in 1798. Hmmm, how perspicacious you are. NOT. Moe birther ignorance from its two foremost adherents, Justice ha ha , omg, yes, ho ho Dale and gross crass vulgar plagiarist cutter and paster LRS from the most murderous of all states.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133921 Dec 18, 2012
gonond wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =E8qGa3bbgWgXX
Obama was born in Kenyan,,
Really? He was born in Kenyan? Does that make him a Kenya?

So much for birthers' ignorance. On display here in Topix every day. Good thing they never leave their trailers. Oops, mobile homes ha ha.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133922 Dec 18, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
So you issued two worthless checks, huh? Canada is full of Marxism.
Worthless or not, I usually issue cheques. Please point out the Canadian Marxist. Or will you tell me to do it?
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133923 Dec 18, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Yea, we sell our obsolete jets fighters to countries like Egypt and Canada but before we sell them we have X_chips installed. That way we can disable the weapons systems on these aircraft from satellites.
We did this after the Shah of Iran was deposed and the American technicians that worked for Iran walked out with the planes' grey-boxes. Well, what good is a F-14 and the guns and missiles don't work?
Yes, Jacques, when our Navy stated to go to the C and D-model F/A-19's we sold some of our A and B-models to Canada!
You wrote :

"Yea, we sell our obsolete jets fighters to countries like Egypt and Canada "

Not to us you don't. Name and model please.

Yoi also wrote :

"Yes, Jacques, when our Navy stated to go to the C and D-model F/A-19's we sold some of our A and B-models to Canada"

No you didn't. We bought all of our F-18s brand new., except for about, oh maybe 10 to replace identical models lost through attrition. Show me where and when Canada bought ANY used F-18s from the U.S.

As to disabling systems, no such thing was ever done to our new F-18s as we never bought used. We defend North American air space through NORAD and systems have to be in sync. When the US sells war planes to other countries, and depending on the security status of each, some systems will remain the same (Norway, Belgium, Netherlands for the F-16, Australia and Canada for the F18, Israel for the F-16, F-15), others will not see the systems removed, but downgraded as in the cases of Egypt, Turkey, Jordan.

As to disabling Iranian F-14 systems by on-ground technicians, that is a possibility, but to disable them from satellites in 1979? Not so sure. Prove it and I'll believe it.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#133924 Dec 18, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
<quoted text>
Okay, I'll bite. Where have I ever said I support corporate welfare? Not only have I never, I have condemned the policy. I want all subsidies to be ended.
Now, I do have one point and that all businesses must be treated equally. Nothing for anyone. Why does the ethanol people get out of only major tax breaks but they also get grants and subsidies whereas the petroleum people get forced all kinds of superficialrestrictions.
An example of ultra-low sulfur diesel fuel for HIGHWAY vehicles but trains, far tractors and other non-highway vehicles can use high sulfur diesel fuel. And jet fuel and heating oil, which are in the same basic fuel blend, have no sulfur restrictions. Oh, I know, diesel trucks are evil.
But if diesel trucks are so polluting, why are diesel truck drivers not falling over dead at higher rates than farmers, rail road engineers, etc.
Well my point remains. If youíre really interested in how your tax dollars are being spent letís begin by eliminating the money going to the greedy and we wonít even have to discuss cutting spending for the needy.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133925 Dec 18, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
A lot of people don't know this but during the Korean War we got some F-86 Sabers from Canada. The Canadair Sabres versions has British engines and were superior to our early model F-86's.
But now days Canada usually gets our out of date, left over equipment.
Oh Jacques, hom many ships do the Canadian Navy now have and can you name "it"!
The engines in our F-86 Sabres were NOT British, they were Orenda engines, Canadian engines. We developed them, built them and used them in CF-100s, Sabres, and some F-105 Starfighters. You don't know too much about aviation, do you?

Nowadays, we don't get your used equipment. Never have, still don't.

Our Navy has quite a few destroyers and frigates which serve us well. The Charlottetown is one of many, and not going to list them for you. I could go to Wikipedia and look like an expert, list them by type, name, and not attributing the source like your bosom buddy, crass, vulgar and plagiarizing LRS but I can't be bothered. Our ships served honourably around the world since WW2, notably off Libya last year and before that off Yugoslavia. Joint exercises with U.S. and NATO forces are common occurences.

Our ships are old and more and more obsolete. We are in the process of renewing the fleet but it'll take a number of years. Suits me just fine. Situation has changed, Rogue, terrorism is the thing to worry about now, and as 9/11 and so many other terrorist operations have proved, you don't stop those buggers with cannons, missiles, supersonic fighters and aircraft carriers. Time to rethink our collective strategies.

This is the second instance today you've shown that your knowledge of air forces, planes and engines is not very developed. I'm sure you were an expert helicopter pilot. Stick with that.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133926 Dec 18, 2012
Rogue Scholar 05 wrote:
The Canadair version of our F-86 were the first with the flying-tail which allowed the jet to exceed the speed of sound in a dive whereas the Soviet MiG-15's could not pass through the transonic barrier.
I could get into the aerodynamic with you but it would take me a week to educated most of you that are capable of comprehending the subject. Oh, it was never the "sound barrier". It was the "transonic barrier" where air on one part of an airfoil, wing or tail would exceed the speed of sound while the other parts were subsonic.
The transonic barrier starts, on most planes, at about 95% of the speed of sound (or mach 0.95)
Canadair Sabre
Design and development
In 1948, the Canadian government decided to re-equip the RCAF with the F-86 Sabre and Canadair was contracted to produce them in Montreal, Quebec, Canada. An initial batch of 10 aircraft was ordered for tool verification. The Korean War changed this to a production batch of 100 aircraft. Canadair slowly built up its production facility to make all components with related equipment obtained from other Canadian suppliers. Canadair gave the Sabre the project number CL-13.
Canadair produced six versions of the CL-13 Sabre. The sole Sabre Mk.1 was essentially the same as the North American Sabre F-86A. It had a General Electric J47-GE-13 turbojet of 5,200 lbf (23 kN) thrust. The Sabre Mk.2 had the same engine, although after the first 20 aircraft were produced, the remainder of the production run was distinguished in having power-assisted controls and an "all-flying" tailplane. The sole Sabre Mk 3 was the first of the Canadian Sabres to use the Avro Canada Orenda turbojet (Orenda 3 with 6,000 lbf (27 kN) thrust). The Sabre Mk.4 retained the General Electric engine and was destined for the RAF and was later passed on to other overseas air forces. The Sabre Mk.5 was the next production version, equipped with an Orenda 10 with 6,500 lbf (29 kN) thrust. A change to the Orenda 14 with 7440 lbf (33 kN) powered the Sabre Mk.6. The designation Sabre Mk.7 was mainly experimental.[clarification needed]
The last Sabre to be manufactured by Canadair (Sabre #1815), after being donated by the Pakistan Air Force, is now part of the permanent collection in the Western Canada Aviation Museum (WCAM) in Winnipeg, Manitoba.[citation needed] From 1950 to 1958, a total of 1,815 CL-13 Sabres were built at the Canadair plant in Montreal.
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Yu have to cut and paste to illustrate the Sabre and Orenda engine . I don't.

Since: Oct 09

Moreno Valley, CA

#133927 Dec 18, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>You go figure, we have never been anything other than a Constitutional Republic.
Thatíll change once the rich have bought off all the politicians. Grover already has all the Republicans.

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