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The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133574 Dec 16, 2012
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>You will find life, liberty and property, more than you will find in a Marxist-Sociatist government.
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>Very stupid aren't you!
So, this is your interpretation of socialism? And you call me very stupid. Your interpretation of the 14th, right? I imagine it's how you also interpret the bible. Anyhow, are you trying to tell us that in the nations that have had or have a socialist government, like the Switzerland of today of all places, there is no life, no liberty and no freedom? Stupid, am I?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133575 Dec 16, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry clown. Still don't care
Then why don't you hush?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#133576 Dec 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I have a clue. You constantly avoid questions. Why? No answers? That's my guess.
Huh? I answer a post from BirfoonLady about bears and Mr.Birfoon wonders why it doesn't address his pointless rant? LOL.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133577 Dec 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
It is a societal problem. Society, as a whole, gets back exactly what it has put in. This includes how our children are raised. We have a "violence" problem in this society. Fill the mind of a child with violence and you'll get an angry and violent adult or a basket case.
Last time I point this out to you. Europe, from a cultural point of view, is different from North America. But, from a societal point of view, NOT. They have as much criminality as we do, as they are no better or worse than we are. But, when someone gets royally pissed off with his spouse, or employer, or colleages, or wants to get even with his workplace or old school, and not having an easy shotgun or handgun at the ready,he can less spontaneously start shooting and killing. I've told you and will repeat, the rate of gun killings in Europe is 6 to 20 times lower than the U.S. Societal? I think not.

We've had 7 murders in Ottawa this year, and only 2 were by guns, the other 5 by other means. I have to wonder how many more killings we'd have had were guns as easy to obtain as in the U.S. Oh, and btw, the two gun killings were the result of gang killings. As I said, those thugs will always find a way to get their hands on guns, but they they rarely kill innocent human beings, thankfully killing each other instead. Most shootings are done within families or people who know each other, as Loose said. Darn it, not necessary to ban guns. Ban hand guns and assault weapons yes. Hunting rifles of course are fine, but withing limits, and not just presentation of a driver's license and 48-hour cooling period. Get the man/woman's full I.D., occupation or job, and reason for purchase of rifle. Then do a police and state health check.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133578 Dec 16, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>UR gonna carry an assault weapon everywhere you go to protect your child from potential attacking bears hiding behind every tree? Get real.
But, as LRS wrote, you're not answering the question. Er, I still have not figured wha the question is that he is referring to.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133579 Dec 16, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
A politician lied? Alert the media!
A fraud? Sorry - you can repeat your fantasy all you want it just points out how pathetic you are.
Not the President? Glad to hear you've self deported
Clinton is part of this lying administration and should be forced to testify. It's her "department", no one else's. Yet, you somehow defend these liars! Why? Four Americans are dead, remember? All you want is to see America changed fundamentally whether the people like it or not. Sorry doltboy, it doesn't work like that. Perhaps a change of continents would suit you? Might as well think about it because we will remain a country based on capitalism regardless of Omama. Please go play dodgecars now.
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133580 Dec 16, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
I'm sure RomperStomper can explain to them that the shooting was caused because people not named RomperStomper just don't show respect
It's those damn gays, "Learn to Read", those gay marriages, they've brought the wrath of God and God , in his infinite wisdom, did he punish the gays by smiting them? Nooooo. Not unlike Noah who banished the wrong son so as to protect his favourite, God done smite children and their teachers. Yessir, that'll teach them gays,.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#133581 Dec 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Leotarded, why do you think you mean anything to anyone on here? Anyone supporting this liar and fraud is anti-America as far as I'm concerned. Now, if that upsets you, tough - I could not care less. Come back when at least one has dropped, ok? TIA
Blather on moron. Let me know if being wrong about everything you paste ever gets old.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#133582 Dec 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Then why don't you hush?
Because I enjoy laughing at Birfoons. Blather on worm - you amuse me
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133583 Dec 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, I have a clue. You constantly avoid questions. Why? No answers? That's my guess.
Again, what was the question? Reason I "butt" in is you asked me the same question with reference to AL's need of guns to shoot bears that will attack their children.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#133584 Dec 16, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>But, as LRS wrote, you're not answering the question. Er, I still have not figured wha the question is that he is referring to.
If he told you, you just might answer and then what would Romper have to whine about?
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#133585 Dec 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>Clinton is part of this lying administration and should be forced to testify. It's her "department", no one else's. Yet, you somehow defend these liars! Why? Four Americans are dead, remember? All you want is to see America changed fundamentally whether the people like it or not. Sorry doltboy, it doesn't work like that. Perhaps a change of continents would suit you? Might as well think about it because we will remain a country based on capitalism regardless of Omama. Please go play dodgecars now.
When did I defend Clinton or claim that she shouldn't testify?

Sorry Birfoon - I'm not sure why so many of your fantasies revolve around me and things I never said so I'm afraid I can't help you (unless laughter directed at you is still the best medicine)
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#133586 Dec 16, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>It's those damn gays, "Learn to Read", those gay marriages, they've brought the wrath of God and God , in his infinite wisdom, did he punish the gays by smiting them? Nooooo. Not unlike Noah who banished the wrong son so as to protect his favourite, God done smite children and their teachers. Yessir, that'll teach them gays,.
The real problem with Gays - they don't respect rednecks

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

United States

#133587 Dec 16, 2012
Tomorrow is the day that that President will be elected per the process mandated by the US Constitution. The process that ensures to moral certainty that no one unqualified will ever hold the office.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133588 Dec 16, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Last time I point this out to you. Europe, from a cultural point of view, is different from North America. But, from a societal point of view, NOT. They have as much criminality as we do, as they are no better or worse than we are. But, when someone gets royally pissed off with his spouse, or employer, or colleages, or wants to get even with his workplace or old school, and not having an easy shotgun or handgun at the ready,he can less spontaneously start shooting and killing. I've told you and will repeat, the rate of gun killings in Europe is 6 to 20 times lower than the U.S. Societal? I think not.
We've had 7 murders in Ottawa this year, and only 2 were by guns, the other 5 by other means. I have to wonder how many more killings we'd have had were guns as easy to obtain as in the U.S. Oh, and btw, the two gun killings were the result of gang killings. As I said, those thugs will always find a way to get their hands on guns, but they they rarely kill innocent human beings, thankfully killing each other instead. Most shootings are done within families or people who know each other, as Loose said. Darn it, not necessary to ban guns. Ban hand guns and assault weapons yes. Hunting rifles of course are fine, but withing limits, and not just presentation of a driver's license and 48-hour cooling period. Get the man/woman's full I.D., occupation or job, and reason for purchase of rifle. Then do a police and state health check.
(2009 UCR)
Land Mass:
Europe - 10,180,000 sq/km
USA - 9,826, 675 sq/km

Population:
Europe - 836,398,000
USA - 309,406,000

Murder Rate:
Europe - 4.83 per 100K
USA - 4.58 per 100K

Gun Ownership:
Europe - 12,000 per 100K
USA - 90,000 per 100K

So, Europe doesn't have near the guns the U.S. has yet Europe has a higher murder rate! Hmmm. Apples to apples presents a different story doesn't it?
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133589 Dec 16, 2012
Oh, first Europe required firearms to be registered. This information was later used to take the guns away from the owners. Then they had to ban swords! Actually, they even considered banning knives and pint bottles!!! Turns out a pint bottle was a weapon of choice for many.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133590 Dec 16, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
But, as LRS wrote, you're not answering the question. Er, I still have not figured wha the question is that he is referring to.
AL's question was simple and direct yet none of you seem capable of answering it. Don't you think we're onto your stupid little games of deflection? Like I said, you flappers avoid all questions. Oh, I forgot, hypothetical questions are out of your range of intelligence. The question is only a few pages back, easy to find. Easy to remember and answer also.
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133591 Dec 16, 2012
Learn to Read wrote:
<quoted text>
When did I defend Clinton or claim that she shouldn't testify?
Sorry Birfoon - I'm not sure why so many of your fantasies revolve around me and things I never said so I'm afraid I can't help you (unless laughter directed at you is still the best medicine)
I doubted if you even knew who she was. Lying admin, lying president!
LRS

Shreveport, LA

#133592 Dec 16, 2012
LMAO at you flappers. What a group of ignorant peeps. You folks are not in touch with reality at all. Go ahead and prop up the usurper. He certainly needs it! Later girls! LMAO!!!
Jacques Ottawa

Vaughan, Canada

#133593 Dec 16, 2012
LRS wrote:
<quoted text>
(2009 UCR)
Land Mass:
Europe - 10,180,000 sq/km
USA - 9,826, 675 sq/km
Population:
Europe - 836,398,000
USA - 309,406,000
Murder Rate:
Europe - 4.83 per 100K
USA - 4.58 per 100K
Gun Ownership:
Europe - 12,000 per 100K
USA - 90,000 per 100K
So, Europe doesn't have near the guns the U.S. has yet Europe has a higher murder rate! Hmmm. Apples to apples presents a different story doesn't it?
Where'd you get those numbers? Here's an interesting link :

en.wikipedia.org/.../List_of_countries_by_int...

Your figures probably include East Europe, which has a per 100,000 population rare of 6.4 homicides.'Fraid Eastern Europe is that high simply because it is ...Eastern Europe, where suddenly, since 1989, society has changes 180 degrees, more poor than before and therefore more crime. So many guns have flooded the black martket since the Soviets and local militias have disarmed. Otherwise, you get these figures :

Western Europe : 1.0 per 100k
Australia : 1.0 per 100K
Canada : 1.6 PER 100K
Japan : 0.3 !! per 100K

USA : 4.2 per 100K.

Now, that is guns AND other instruments used to kill.

Guns alone, US kills 6 to 20 times more people with guns than west Europeans and many other nations and the reason is simple : rampant ownership of guns. That why the difference between4.2 and 1.0 and even more so for Japan.

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