BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit ...

BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen...

There are 207750 comments on the Chicago Tribune story from Jan 8, 2009, titled BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting Obama's citizen.... In it, Chicago Tribune reports that:

The U.S. Supreme Court will consider Friday whether to take up a lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama 's U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case embraced by some opponents of Obama's ...

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Johannes

Yucaipa, CA

#85414 Jun 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
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Larry to Moe : "I got ya back tho...;-)" Ha ha
Now that's imaginative.....and it fits those birther clowns.

Ha Ha

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#85416 Jun 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Monkey? Not ape or chimpanzee? Oh, well, birthers never go into details anyhow. Monkeys, apes, chimps, whatever. Ever heard of that famous Scopes trial,(the monkey trial, if ever there was a misnomer) American er hmm Lady?
Recent studies show that people of European and Asian ancestry share 1% to 4% of their nuclear DNA with neanderthals, but Africans do not. See Science 7 May 2010.

Pretty ironic considering the frequent racial slurs heaped by white supremacists on their targets.(Baboon, gorilla, etc.)
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
You may be "educated" enuf to think you "evolved" from a monkey!
I KNOW where I came from!
IT damned sure wasn't a monkey!
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#85417 Jun 15, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
So tell me why you are sticking up for Terry B but you put down Rogue you transparent piece of foreign matter.
Please indicate immediately where I put down Rogue's services to his country.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#85418 Jun 15, 2012
The Significance of the Scopes Trial

Scopes agreed to be the official victim. The irony is this: he was not sure that he had actually taught from the sections of the biology textbook that taught Darwinism. Had he been put on the witness stand and asked by the defense if he had taught evolution, he would have had to say he did not recall. He was never put on the stand.

......

The Progressives' rhetoric of democracy was nowhere to be found in the Times' articles on Bryan and creationism, for the editors suspected that Bryan had the votes. For the Progressives, democracy was a tool of social change, not an unbreakable principle of civil government; a slogan, not a moral imperative. Though often cloaked in religious terms, democracy was merely a means to an end. What was this end?

Control over other people's money and, if possible, the minds of their children.

THE STRATEGY

The city's merchants did very well from the influx of media people who could not resist seeing William Jennings Bryan take on Clarence Darrow.

The ACLU's strategy was to lose the case, appeal it, get it confirmed at the appellate court level, and appeal it to the U.S. Supreme Court, which they believed would overturn it. And why not? This was the Court that, two years later, determined that the state of Virginia had the right to sterilize a mentally retarded woman, without her knowledge or consent that this was the operation being performed on her. While she had a daughter of normal intelligence, this had no bearing on the case in the joint opinion of eight of the nine members of the Court. In the words of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., who wrote the Court's opinion: "Three generations of imbeciles are enough."

Bryan offered to pay Scopes' fine. Both sides wanted conviction. Darrow threw the case. He told the jury it had to convict, which it promptly did.

The ACLU hit an iceberg. The Dayton decision was overturned by the appellate court on a legal technicality. The case could not reach the Supreme Court's docket. Sometimes judges are more clever than ACLU attorneys expect.

The issue was democratic control over tax-funded education. Mr. Clark was against any such notion.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north394.htm...
American Lady

Danville, KY

#85419 Jun 15, 2012
"Primitive man never existed, and there never was a Stone Age. They are nothing more than deceptive inventions produced by evolutionists with the help of one section of the media. Human beings have been human since the day they came into existence, and have possessed a fully elevated culture from that day to this." -- Adnan Oktar
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#85420 Jun 15, 2012
American Lady wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess YOU believe "everything" put out by LSM.....
da
Oh the lame press declared that we came from apes and chimps.

American er hmm Lady, best you go back to cut-and-paste. And while you're at it, read about the Scopes trial. Read about evolution. It's all over google/wikepedia. Hmmmm, READ? I'm sorry.
Learn to Read

Indianapolis, IN

#85421 Jun 15, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
Lies lies and more lies.
Source?
the law, the facts, the history of 132 cases before this one ... and the absolute certainty that you'll be pissing and moaning and whining (again) when the FL frivolity goes nowhere
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#85422 Jun 15, 2012
wojar wrote:
<quoted text>
Recent studies show that people of European and Asian ancestry share 1% to 4% of their nuclear DNA with neanderthals, but Africans do not. See Science 7 May 2010.
Pretty ironic considering the frequent racial slurs heaped by white supremacists on their targets.(Baboon, gorilla, etc.)
<quoted text>
Interesting. I don't mind being educated like that at all. Tks

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#85423 Jun 15, 2012
Wojar,
Evolution is not always linear.
It is common, well known knowledge that the modern human species shares up to 98% if their nuclear DNA sequence with chimpanzees and the other great apes.
As far as longevity is concerned, Neanderthal was very successful.
Quit trying to scandalize natural selection.
loose
Jacques Ottawa

Toronto, Canada

#85424 Jun 15, 2012
American Lady wrote:
The Significance of the Scopes Trial
Scopes agreed to be the official victim. The irony is this: he was not sure that he had actually taught from the sections of the biology textbook that taught Darwinism. Had he been put on the witness stand and asked by the defense if he had taught evolution, he would have had to say he did not recall. He was never put on the stand.
......
The Progressives' rhetoric of democracy was nowhere to be found in the Times' articles on Bryan and creationism, for the editors suspected that Bryan had the votes. For the Progressives, democracy was a tool of social change, not an unbreakable principle of civil government; a slogan, not a moral imperative. Though often cloaked in religious terms, democracy was merely a means to an end. What was this end?
Control over other people's money and, if possible, the minds of their children.
THE STRATEGY
The city's merchants did very well from the influx of media people who could not resist seeing William Jennings Bryan take on Clarence Darrow.
The ACLU's strategy was to lose the case, appeal it, get it confirmed at the appellate court level, and appeal it to the U.S. Supreme Court, which they believed would overturn it. And why not? This was the Court that, two years later, determined that the state of Virginia had the right to sterilize a mentally retarded woman, without her knowledge or consent that this was the operation being performed on her. While she had a daughter of normal intelligence, this had no bearing on the case in the joint opinion of eight of the nine members of the Court. In the words of Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr., who wrote the Court's opinion: "Three generations of imbeciles are enough."
Bryan offered to pay Scopes' fine. Both sides wanted conviction. Darrow threw the case. He told the jury it had to convict, which it promptly did.
The ACLU hit an iceberg. The Dayton decision was overturned by the appellate court on a legal technicality. The case could not reach the Supreme Court's docket. Sometimes judges are more clever than ACLU attorneys expect.
The issue was democratic control over tax-funded education. Mr. Clark was against any such notion.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north394.htm...
Except to state erroneously that we all evolved from monkeys, don't you have your own viewpoint on SOMEthing?. Can you not summarize the above cut-and-paste, analyse it and form an opinion? The scopes trial, btw, was held in the deep evangelical south. What a challence for the brilliant defence.
American Lady

Danville, KY

#85426 Jun 15, 2012
Fundamentalists began to withdraw from national politics and mainstream culture. The roaring twenties were not favorable times for fundamentalists. Their alliance with the Progressives began to break down. This alliance had gotten the eighteenth amendment passed. By the time Prohibition was repealed in 1933, the fundamentalists had begun their Long March into the hinterlands. Only in the 1976 Presidential election did they begin to re-surface. In 1980, they came out in force for Reagan. Two events mark this transformation, neither of which receives any attention by historians: the "Washington for Jesus" rally in the spring of 1980 and the "National Affairs Briefing Conference" in Dallas in September.

CONCLUSION

The Scopes trial was a media circus. The play and movie that made it famous three decades later, Inherit the Wind, was an effective piece of propaganda. The website of the law school of the University of Missouri, Kansas City, offers a good introduction to the story of this trial. But this version has a hard time competing with the textbook versions and the documentaries.

The victors write the textbooks. These textbooks are not assigned in Bryan College, located in Dayton, Tennessee or if they are, they are not believed.

There is no Darrow College.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/north/north394.htm...

Since: Dec 11

Fort Worth, TX

#85427 Jun 15, 2012
Just Sayin wrote:
<quoted text>
So now we find that you are not only uniformed but senile as well.
That's one of the reasons Obama was elected in the first place.
The uniformed and senile along with voter fraud.(look it up)
Sure I'll look it up if I remember.

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#85428 Jun 15, 2012
Wojar,
Those findings, while plausible and always certainly worth investigating further, they are, as of yet not conclusive.
loose

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#85429 Jun 15, 2012
loose cannon wrote:
Wojar,
Evolution is not always linear.
It is common, well known knowledge that the modern human species shares up to 98% if their nuclear DNA sequence with chimpanzees and the other great apes.
As far as longevity is concerned, Neanderthal was very successful.
Quit trying to scandalize natural selection.
loose
Huh? That's news? Yes it is common knowledge.

Recent studies show that people of European and Asian ancestry share 1% to 4% of their nuclear DNA with Neanderthals, but Africans do not. See Science 7 May 2010.

Got a point?

Scandalize natural selection? Huh?
American Lady

Danville, KY

#85430 Jun 15, 2012
Jacques Ottawa wrote:
<quoted text>
Except to state erroneously that we all evolved from monkeys, don't you have your own viewpoint on SOMEthing?. Can you not summarize the above cut-and-paste, analyse it and form an opinion? The scopes trial, btw, was held in the deep evangelical south. What a challence for the brilliant defence.
Yep! Right close to Athens!

The Battle of Athens!
http://constitution.org/mil/tn/batathen.htm

“On Deck”

Since: Aug 08

French Polynesia

#85431 Jun 15, 2012
Wojar,
One more thing. The tangible archaeological evidence supporting co-habitation of Neanderthal and modern homo sapiens is non-existent to scant at best.
loose

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#85432 Jun 15, 2012
Terri Tanna wrote:
"State any EVIDENTIARY FACT that PROVES your president is not a natural-born AMERICAN citizen.
(This has been asked at least ninety times without ANY response. BTW, a statement of a legal principle is not an EVIDENTIARY FACT.)"
American Lady wrote:
KiSS my gd azz....[SIC] YOU ignorant POS.....[SIC]
You make about as much sense to me as a dog chasing a car.....[SIC]
What's iT gonna DO when the car STOPS?
NOT a DAMN thing.....[SIC]
Just stand there...[SIC]
LQQK stQQpid.....[SIC]
and HANG iT's head......[SIC]
There you have it, Class.
The EVIDENTIARY FACT that PROVES President Barack HUSSEIN Obama is not a natural-born AMERICAN citizen.

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#85433 Jun 15, 2012
loose cannon wrote:
Wojar,
One more thing. The tangible archaeological evidence supporting co-habitation of Neanderthal and modern homo sapiens is non-existent to scant at best.
loose
That's news?

“Facts trump speculation”

Since: Dec 08

Bristol, CT

#85434 Jun 15, 2012
loose cannon wrote:
Wojar,
Evolution is not always linear.
It is common, well known knowledge that the modern human species shares up to 98% if their nuclear DNA sequence with chimpanzees and the other great apes.
As far as longevity is concerned, Neanderthal was very successful.
Quit trying to scandalize natural selection.
loose
Modern humans share more than 99% of their DNA with Neanderthals.

"Scandalize natural selection"? Huh?

“SAVING BIRTHERS FROM IGNORANCE”

Since: Jul 09

The Farm North of Hinsdale

#85435 Jun 15, 2012
American Lady wrote:
In my view, the Christian religion is the most important and one of the first things in which all children, under a free government ought to be instructed...No truth is more evident to my mind than that the Christian religion must be the basis of any government intended to secure the rights and privileges of a free people.~Noah Webster
You can twist Noah's words to say anything .... And you have l'il tacky.

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