Obamacare: Californians will pay 10th highest rates in country under health exchange

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fingiswold

Newark, OH

#1358 Dec 8, 2013
Truth Facts wrote:
<quoted text>Did I say only dumbass** come from N. OH Didn't mean to leave that one out.
I don't come from or live in Newark. Don't'cha know how them internets works, Fart?:)

Since: Oct 10

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#1359 Dec 8, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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That nonsense about people losing their policy is absolute fiction as you know. They of course are being rolled into new plans just like you will be when your insurance is canceled at the end of the year.
Strangely the same people who peddle this myth are silent on the 8 million people who will not be getting insurance because they are unfortunate enough to live in a state where their governor has decided not to let them have FREE insurance under Medicare Expansion.
For governors to actively prevent 8 million people from receiving insurance is disgusting. For people to overlook this real life tragedy and make noise about fictional people is simply dishonest.
Are you seriously believing that folks aren't receiving cancellation notices? I personally know 3 people who got the letters. They have to shop on the "Exchange" and so far have no luck in getting the sufficient information to make an informed decision. PLUS, they are being told their old policies didn't have maternity care so they weren't 'covered', hence the drop. Keeping in mind that they are families with children and none more planned (one is a 50 year old woman) and the others husbands had vasectomies, tell me, why can't a person choose the plan that best suits their needs and budget? What was so wrong with the insurance plans as they existed before this infamous fix??? Most rational people get insurance through their employers, and those that chose to shop for insurance on the open market either have their own small businesses (as with my personal example) or decided to go another route.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#1360 Dec 8, 2013
It's not the responsibility of the federal government to provide health insurance to folks, that's not part of the constitutional guarantees. This administration has over-reached its boundaries.
spOko

Oakland, CA

#1361 Dec 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Implode, methinks.
It would be less messy :-)

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#1362 Dec 8, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
Oh I see the gender benders are starting to chime in.
I'd always heard 'gender benders' tend to vote Democrat, something about donkeys......
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#1363 Dec 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Implode, methinks.
methinks you are memo, SpOko, Zanoni, Sinajuavi (sin huevos)rico all these rolled into ONE BIG AZ- H-OLE!
fingiswold

Newark, OH

#1364 Dec 8, 2013
OneRepublic wrote:
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I'd always heard 'gender benders' tend to vote Democrat, something about donkeys......
Donkeys are a human gender, now? You might want to ask for your money back on that Republican religious right education, putz...:)
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1365 Dec 8, 2013
OneRepublic wrote:
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Are you seriously believing that folks aren't receiving cancellation notices? I personally know 3 people who got the letters. They have to shop on the "Exchange" and so far have no luck in getting the sufficient information to make an informed decision. PLUS, they are being told their old policies didn't have maternity care so they weren't 'covered', hence the drop. Keeping in mind that they are families with children and none more planned (one is a 50 year old woman) and the others husbands had vasectomies, tell me, why can't a person choose the plan that best suits their needs and budget? What was so wrong with the insurance plans as they existed before this infamous fix??? Most rational people get insurance through their employers, and those that chose to shop for insurance on the open market either have their own small businesses (as with my personal example) or decided to go another route.
I received one of those letters and it was wonderful. I was given two choices. The first was to do absolutely nothing and then I would be automatically rolled into a new and improved policy at a lower price. The second option was to go on the exchanges and find a policy. I did spend a couple of hours on-line and received a much better policy then I had and it costs $1700 per month less. It is not as traumatic as you make it out to be.

By the way, did you get that upset last year when your insurance policy was canceled? How about the year before when it was cancelled? Or the year before? Did you even know that all group policies are cancelled every single year at midnight on New Years Eve and are rolled into new polices one second later?

How come it does not bother you when your policy is canceled in real life, but you get worked up about people you may or may not even know?
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1366 Dec 8, 2013
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> methinks you are memo, SpOko, Zanoni, Sinajuavi (sin huevos)rico all these rolled into ONE BIG AZ- H-OLE!
Pedro IS THAT...you!!!!
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#1367 Dec 8, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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Pedro IS THAT...you!!!!
Oh clueless...I forgot to add pedro, frito, aka juan (Lodi, ca)....thanks for reminding me. LOL!
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1368 Dec 8, 2013
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> Oh clueless...I forgot to add pedro, frito, aka juan (Lodi, ca)....thanks for reminding me. LOL!
You FORGET...that Pedro IS ALSO from EL paso... and seems to have the SAME strange.. punctuation STYLE as many POSTERS FROM el PASO..........

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#1369 Dec 8, 2013
teddyr4me wrote:
You have proven nothing.
As I said: I was using your standard of proof, darling.

Wipe your chin, dear.
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1370 Dec 8, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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As I said: I was using your standard of proof, darling.
Wipe your chin, dear.
Suddenly the clowns are quiet when they are outnumbered.
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti

El Paso, TX

#1371 Dec 8, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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You FORGET...that Pedro IS ALSO from EL paso... and seems to have the SAME strange.. punctuation STYLE as many POSTERS FROM el PASO..........
ReAlLy!? dOn'T kNoW aBoUt pEtRo or PeDrO wHaT EvEr Or wHo EvEr tHaT iS......BuT i ReAlLy DoN't GiVe a DaMn wHaT UnImPoRtAnt pOsTeRs lIkE yOu ThInK oR sAy! tA! Ta! sImPlY cLuElEsS, tHaTs yOu!
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1372 Dec 8, 2013
ima-Ilis Myka Ashanti wrote:
<quoted text> ReAlLy!? dOn'T kNoW aBoUt pEtRo or PeDrO wHaT EvEr Or wHo EvEr tHaT iS......BuT i ReAlLy DoN't GiVe a DaMn wHaT UnImPoRtAnt pOsTeRs lIkE yOu ThInK oR sAy! tA! Ta! sImPlY cLuElEsS, tHaTs yOu!
I think it's time your handlers put you to bed.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#1373 Dec 8, 2013
fingiswold wrote:
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Donkeys are a human gender, now? You might want to ask for your money back on that Republican religious right education, putz...:)
Lame comeback. Typical liberal though, I should have clarified for this Kindercare crowd, and said that as the donkey is the mascot of the Dems, lately they must feel even more of a kinship, seeing as how most Dems on this board are a donkey's a@@.

Since: Oct 10

Location hidden

#1374 Dec 8, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
<quoted text>
I received one of those letters and it was wonderful. I was given two choices. The first was to do absolutely nothing and then I would be automatically rolled into a new and improved policy at a lower price. The second option was to go on the exchanges and find a policy. I did spend a couple of hours on-line and received a much better policy then I had and it costs $1700 per month less. It is not as traumatic as you make it out to be.
By the way, did you get that upset last year when your insurance policy was canceled? How about the year before when it was cancelled? Or the year before? Did you even know that all group policies are cancelled every single year at midnight on New Years Eve and are rolled into new polices one second later?
How come it does not bother you when your policy is canceled in real life, but you get worked up about people you may or may not even know?
My insurance has never been 'cancelled'. I work for a company that offers health insurance, and as long as I sign up during open enrollment, it rolls over. There is not even a one second gap in coverage. I keep the same benefits, same policy #. The rest of it is just semantics, I choose not to be confused by how insurance works. My friends, however, were paying into policies that they picked in the marketplace, were paying the premiums THEY deemed fit their budgets and their needs. The insurance options they had were fine, and now have been replaced by high cost low benefit policies that don't meet their needs. How can that ever be a good thing? taking choices away from consumers and making them pay for things they don't need? I don't see it. Might be of benefit to those who were uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions, but of dubious benefit for otherwise healthy people. If the gov't were interested in setting this to rights, they could have reformed healthcare to make it viable for all, not just for the lower income previously un-insured. I certainly don't believe that the gov't has any business meddling in health insurance, it's a disaster.

“Work hard at work worth doing.”

Since: Apr 11

Location hidden

#1375 Dec 9, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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As I said: I was using your standard of proof, darling.
Wipe your chin, dear.
How about you wash your filthy mouth out with soap. It would be an all day job, so if you get started now, you might get it done by nightfall. Get some new material.
Memo From Turner

Wantagh, NY

#1376 Dec 9, 2013
OneRepublic wrote:
<quoted text>My insurance has never been 'cancelled'. I work for a company that offers health insurance, and as long as I sign up during open enrollment, it rolls over. There is not even a one second gap in coverage. I keep the same benefits, same policy #. The rest of it is just semantics, I choose not to be confused by how insurance works. My friends, however, were paying into policies that they picked in the marketplace, were paying the premiums THEY deemed fit their budgets and their needs. The insurance options they had were fine, and now have been replaced by high cost low benefit policies that don't meet their needs. How can that ever be a good thing? taking choices away from consumers and making them pay for things they don't need? I don't see it. Might be of benefit to those who were uninsurable due to pre-existing conditions, but of dubious benefit for otherwise healthy people. If the gov't were interested in setting this to rights, they could have reformed healthcare to make it viable for all, not just for the lower income previously un-insured. I certainly don't believe that the gov't has any business meddling in health insurance, it's a disaster.
Thanks for explaining that you "choose not to be confused by how insurance works". Your honesty is refreshing, but it does beg the question why you would be commenting on something that you admittedly do not understand.

I also appreciate you confirming my point that you did not even know that your insurance is canceled every single year. It is surprising how few people understand that. Insurance companies make changes to their policies on a regular basis. Of course they can not modify and existing policy. There would be huge legal implications. That is why they always cancel every policy at New Years and roll everybody into new plans. It is so seamless that you did not even know it is happening.

Didn't you ever wonder why they send you new insurance cards every year for the "same" policy?

Canon

Texarkana, TX

#1377 Dec 9, 2013
Memo From Turner wrote:
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Seriously? That is what you were told?
Obamacare covers everybody. Nobody is "exempt". The whole point of the law is to provide people without employer sponsored insurance plans an opportunity to buy insurance at reasonable rates.
Members of Congress, the Senate and government employees like you already have medical insurance. There is no reason for you or anybody else who already has insurance and are happy with it to need Obamacare. It does not apply to you, but to say that you or your fellow government employees in Congress are "exempt" is incorrect.
You've been dupped real good!

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