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Obamacare: Californians will pay 10th highest rates in country under health exchange

There are 3805 comments on the The Daily Democrat story from Sep 26, 2013, titled Obamacare: Californians will pay 10th highest rates in country under health exchange. In it, The Daily Democrat reports that:

TOPSHOTS US President Barack Obama listens to President Michel Sleiman of Lebanon speaking to the media before a bilateral meeting on the sideline of the 68th United Nations General Assembly at the UN in New York on September 24, 2013.

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#841 Nov 14, 2013
Truth Facts wrote:
<quoted text>Over 600 million to build a website and what did we get?
Don't worry, SockLoad. Welfare still provides you your benefits.

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#842 Nov 14, 2013
Obama's not the only liar:

10. SEN. MARY LANDRIEU (D-LA):“If you like the insurance that you have, you'll be able to keep it.”(MSNBC’s Hardball, 12/16/09)

9. SEN. KAY HAGAN (D-NC):“We need to support the private insurance industry so that people who have insurance they're happy with can keep it while also providing a backstop option for people without access to affordable coverage.”

8. SEN. MARK BEGICH (D-AK):“If you got a doctor now, you got a medical professional you want, you get to keep that. If you have an insurance program or a health care policy you want of ideas, make sure you keep it. That you can keep who you want.”

7. SEN. MICHAEL BENNET (D-CO):“We should begin with a basic principle: if you have coverage and you like it, you can keep it. If you have your doctor, and you like him or her, you should be able to keep them as well. We will not take that choice away from you.”

6. SEN. PATTY MURRAY (D-WA):“Again, if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. Let me say this again: If you like what you have, when our legislation is passed and signed by the President, you will be able to keep it.”(Sen. Murray, Congressional Record, S.6400, 6/10/09)

5. SEN. TOM HARKIN (D-IA):“One of the things we put in the health care bill when we designed it was the protection for consumers to keep the plan they have if they like it; thus, the term ‘grandfathered plans.’ If you have a plan you like --existing policies--you can keep them.…we said, if you like a plan, you get to keep it, and you can grandfather it in.”(Sen. Harkin, Congressional Record, S.7675-6, 9/29/10)

4. SEN. CHUCK SCHUMER (D-NY):“If you like your insurance, you keep it.”(U.S. Senate, Finance Committee, Bill Mark-Up, 9/24/09)


3. SEN. DICK DURBIN (D-IL):“This bill before us on the Senate floor makes it clear that if you have an insurance policy that you like, you can keep it. If you like the doctor that you're currently doing business with, you can continue to use that doctor.”(Sen. Durbin, Teleconference, 12/4/09)

2.SEN. HARRY REID (D-NV):“In fact, one of our core principles is that if you like the health care you have, you can keep it.”(Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.8642, 8/3/09)

1. SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D-MT):“That is why one of the central promises of health care reform has been and is: If you like what you have, you can keep it. That is critically important. If a person has a plan, and he or she likes it, he or she can keep it.”(Sen. Baucus, Congressional Record, S.7676, 9/29/10)

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#843 Nov 14, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>Insurance kills more people each year than guns.
Sure it does....

(cough)

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#844 Nov 14, 2013
Truth Facts wrote:
<quoted text>How's this for your numbers.27,000 enrolled in the federal exchange
Are you done your Christmas shopping, Dish Pan?

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#845 Nov 14, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Obama's not the only liar:
George Bush = Iraq War.

Gosh...

I wonder if you went down the list of 535 members of Congress, how many can you prove to have told lies?

Let's start with the car thief and arsonist Congressman Issa.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#846 Nov 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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George Bush = Iraq War.
Gosh...
I wonder if you went down the list of 535 members of Congress, how many can you prove to have told lies?
Let's start with the car thief and arsonist Congressman Issa.
That's right they have all lied so you pointing out this about Issa means nothing.Arson is a felony,he does not have a felony on his record.This biggest liar of them all is the once senator from chicago who occupies the WH.All these people losing their policies is just the beginning:

But the same conditions that are causing the cancellation of individual policies will eventually result in the cancellation of millions of employment-based policies as well. The only reason that hasn’t happened yet is that the employer mandate was postponed for a year, so employer plans don’t yet have to be ACA-compliant. But they will. Even the Congressional Budget Office estimates that as many as 20 million workers will lose their current employer-sponsored plans. Combine that with those losing individual plans, and more than 30 million Americans cannot keep their current insurance.This comes from the CBO a$$whipe. Your master lied doens of times and they knew they were lying. You want to talk about liars look no further than the WH.Honesty is not a priority for them
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#847 Nov 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Are you done your Christmas shopping, Dish Pan?
I don't like Christmas get over it.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#848 Nov 14, 2013
Brian G:
Of course a wack job like Barefoot pays no attention to this.Great post by the way.
spud

Blakeslee, PA

#849 Nov 14, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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Sure it does....
(cough)
Better get that cough checked out. I hear with Obamacare they will be able to see you in about 4 months.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#850 Nov 14, 2013
spud wrote:
<quoted text>Better get that cough checked out. I hear with Obamacare they will be able to see you in about 4 months.
Just a bad scratch on the back of his throat. Its an occupational hazard.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#851 Nov 14, 2013
MORE BROKEN PROMISES FROM THE LIAR N CHIEF
.The Obama administration has reportedly admitted for the first time that many individual insurance plans and plans for small businesses offered through government exchanges — even with subsidies — will be more expensive than plans consumers purchased before the Affordable Care Act became law. President Barack Obama and administration officials have promised Americans for years that the plans offered under Obamacare would save most Americans money.

Gary Cohen, director of the Center for Consumer Information and Insurance Oversight, reportedly wrote a letter to state insurance commissioners on Thursday explaining that “one reason for the new Obamacare measures the president announced Thursday is that millions of consumers receiving cancellation letters from their insurers are learning the Affordable Care Act options are in fact less affordable,” the Daily Mail reports.

“Although affected individuals and small businesses may access quality health insurance coverage through the new Health Insurance Marketplaces, in many cases with federal subsidies, some of them are finding that such coverage would be more expensive than their current coverage, and thus they may dissuaded from immediately transitioning to such coverage,” Cohen wrote.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#852 Nov 14, 2013
Obama's Insurance 'Fix' Is Unconstitutional

Outlets are quoting Democratic operative Howard Dean saying of President Barack Obama suspending certain Obamacare requirements,“I wonder if he has the legal authority to do this.”
To remove all doubt: The Take Care Clause of the Constitution absolutely forbids any president from doing exactly what Obama did Thursday.

Obama said he would allow insurance companies to keep offering previously-offered insurance plans that Americans would like to keep. Nobody knows if this means all plans, or only some of them, and how the White House will make such determinations. He says he has “enforcement discretion” to make this change to the Affordable Care Act unilaterally, without consulting Congress.

This is a frightening claim of a sweeping power that is completely inconsistent with the Constitution. A president has “prosecutorial discretion” to prioritize which lawbreakers to prosecute in federal court, but there is no “enforcement discretion” to determine which laws on the books he will enforce.

Article II, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution commands of every president:“he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed.” Like every provision in the Constitution, it has a legal meaning—and that meaning is the Supreme Law of the Land, which Congress, the courts, and—yes—each president is bound by his oath of office to follow carefully.

Everyone should know from their high-school government classes that Article I of the Constitution gives Congress exclusive power to make federal laws, and Article II of the Constitution gives the American president the executive power to administer and enforce those laws. Article II then includes the language about how the president must faithfully execute those laws.

Among other things, the Take Care Clause was inserted in the Constitution to abolish the Royal Prerogative that the Framers of the American Constitution knew from their lives as Englishmen. It was the power of the king of England to disregard or effectively suspend Acts of Parliament. The king could not make laws, but he could shelve a law that Parliament had passed.

Obama’s announcement is a flagrant and undeniable violation of his constitutional duty under the Take Care Clause. The provisions of Obamacare causing enormous trouble for insurance plans are mandatory, and only Congress can change those parts of the Affordable Care Act. Every day provides additional proof that Obamacare is a complete train wreck, but it is one regarding which only Congress can change the terms.
He thinks he's King and above our laws.

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#853 Nov 15, 2013
Truth Facts wrote:
<quoted text>That's right they have all lied so you pointing out this about Issa means nothing.
It means something when it becomes time for reelection and whenever Issa speaks everyone in his range knows that he is a liar and a thief.

A person becomes a felon when he is convicted of a felony.

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#854 Nov 15, 2013
Truth Facts wrote:
Obama's Insurance 'Fix' Is Unconstitutional
and we all know that you know what you are talking about, eh, SockLoad?

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#855 Nov 15, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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George Bush = Iraq War.
Gosh...
I wonder if you went down the list of 535 members of Congress, how many can you prove to have told lies?

[QUOTE who="barefoot2626"]G eorge Bush = Iraq War. Gosh...
Don't forget, a Democrat party Majority voted for the war, based on the same facts. Then, there's the 39 other sovereign government's that joined the decision and battle.

I'm proud of Bush's record in Iraq. If there's any mistake, Obama withdrew too early.

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barefoot2626 wrote:
I wonder if you went down the list of 535 members of Congress, how many can you prove to have told lies?
Let's see in 2014?

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barefoot2626 wrote:
Let's start with the car thief and arsonist Congressman Issa.
Let's start with Darrell Issaz, my hero standing against prohibiting the incandescent light bulb. I admire his stand on many issues, he's a true conservative.

Let's start with:

Issa Cosponsors Bill to Rein in NSA Surveillance Programs, Increase Oversight and Protect Individuals’ Privacy

October 30, 2013
WASHINGTON. D.C.– Representative Darrell Issa (CA-49) continued his efforts to protect Americans’ privacy rights by becoming a leading cosponsor of H.R. 3361, the USA FREEDOM (Uniting and Strengthening America by Fulfilling Rights and Ending Eavesdropping, Dragnet Collection, and Online Monitoring) Act – a bipartisan, bicameral bill to end the bulk collection of Americans’ communications records under the USA PATRIOT Act and reform the process through which the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court issues warrants.

“We now know that the NSA and other intelligence agency officials have misled the Congress and the American people and that their actions are far more invasive with respect to communications of Americans than were previously known,” said Rep. Issa.

“Congress has a duty to conduct vigorous oversight – especially when the civil liberties of American citizens are in jeopardy. This legislation builds on my past efforts to hold the Administration accountable for outright violations of individual privacy rights and to increase transparency of the NSA’s surveillance programs.”
http://issa.house.gov/press-releases/2013/10/...
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#856 Nov 15, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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and we all know that you know what you are talking about, eh, SockLoad?
Ok Mr. or Ms. attorney your the expert.why don't you thrill us with your expertise and explain our current situation and how this potus has lied to all Americans and is still deceiving us.Go for it! let's here your rationale(bullsh$$).
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#858 Nov 15, 2013
Thought you might like this insightful perspective:

It took 3 years, 5 months and 1 day from the Attack on Pearl Harbor to the day Germany surrendered. This included turning the tide in North Africa, invading Italy, D-Day, the Battle of the Bulge, the Race to Berlin, while also fighting the Japanese in the Pacific. It entailed mobilizing millions and building 10's of thousands of tanks, planes, jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, and millions upon millions of guns, bombs, and ammunition.

It took 3 years, 6 months, and 10 days for the Federal Government to build a non-working webpage.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#859 Nov 15, 2013
Dee Dee Dee wrote:
Thought you might like this insightful perspective:
It took 3 years, 5 months and 1 day from the Attack on Pearl Harbor to the day Germany surrendered. This included turning the tide in North Africa, invading Italy, D-Day, the Battle of the Bulge, the Race to Berlin, while also fighting the Japanese in the Pacific. It entailed mobilizing millions and building 10's of thousands of tanks, planes, jeeps, subs, cruisers, destroyers, torpedoes, and millions upon millions of guns, bombs, and ammunition.
It took 3 years, 6 months, and 10 days for the Federal Government to build a non-working webpage.
That was awesome dee.It took 3 harvard it specialist to build a web site in 1 month that could handle all of what health care.gov was supposed to handle and still 3yrs. 6mo. 10days and the web site is garbage.
Truth Facts

Chillicothe, OH

#860 Nov 15, 2013
barefoot2626 wrote:
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and we all know that you know what you are talking about, eh, SockLoad?
Oh,and your the expert.Go flush your head.
Dee Dee Dee

Emmaus, PA

#861 Nov 16, 2013
Truth Facts wrote:
<quoted text>That was awesome dee.It took 3 harvard it specialist to build a web site in 1 month that could handle all of what health care.gov was supposed to handle and still 3yrs. 6mo. 10days and the web site is garbage.
The failure of the website has proven exactly what many of those opposed to Obamacare have been saying all along. The government and especially one run by a Democratic majority that formed in one of the most politically corrupt environments in the country is not capable of administrating such a large project. With no expertise in the field a bunch of professional politicians and government workers went about contracting for a huge system than not one of them understood. Since the system was based on a law that nobody read it is quite understandable that those tasked with implementing it did not know what they were tasked with. They handed out contracts and money to a bunch of political friends who are also not qualified and have no actual experience or plan to follow. After receiving the contracts they in turn contracted the work to other people who may or may not have any experience with similar projects. At the end of the day a lot of people were paid a lot of money and the system does not work. Now the same people will be paid more money to “fix” what they built. Just like the “virtual border fence” and thousands of other large and small government projects. A side from the money being spent by the government insurance companies are also spending millions and millions to deal with this disaster and guess who is going to have to cover their losses.
If you truly want to make healthcare affordable then you do not add more taxes, requirements and regulations to an already overly complicated system.

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