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It's your 'inability' to admit homosexuality is offensive to GOD that makes you the liar...
"Homosexuality" isn't offensive to God. Certain sexual acts between men may or may not be, but there's no universal agreement on how to interpret Hebrew scripture and thus far God has chosen not to provide clarification that ALL people have recognized as such. If you're claiming God has given such clarification to you personally, then you need to provide documentation from God proving you're His designated spokesperson on earth.
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poopcake.....
Sorry, not interested in your latest dessert creation.
Get That Fool wrote:
Obviously facing 'reality' is not a fault of my own, but a fault of yours...homosexuality is offensive to GOD...reality..face it...
Sorry, the personal biblical interpretation of a pathological liar like you are neither fact nor "reality" for anyone but yourself.
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My answer still applies...I don't discriminate against anyone...sorry, you lose again...
I said advocacy of discrimination against gays. Obviously you're not solely responsible for passing discriminatory laws that infringe the rights of gays.
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Actually, the reason you blame Christians for your woes is because their 'is' a universal consensus....
If it was a universal consensus, then ALL Christians would agree with you. The fact is, they don't. Nor do I "blame" Christians collectively for anything. I blame bigots like you for the discrimination to which gays are subjected.
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It's an 'abomination' to GOD as the Bible says...sorry, you lose again....
So is your worship of a false messiah and idol. So are your lying lips. So is your failure to follow all 613 mitzvot of Torah if you think any single one of them applies to everyone. Even Jesus condemned the unmitigated hypocrisy such as you display here.

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"Homosexuality" isn't offensive to God. Certain sexual acts between men may or may not be
Oh it's not a 'may' be it is an 'is'....Homosexuality carriers with it those sexual acts doesn't it?? Or are you now going to try and deny that too?????
but there's no universal agreement on how to interpret Hebrew scripture and thus far God has chosen not to provide clarification that ALL people have recognized as such.
Sorry, Christians (that follow the Bible) have a 'universal' understanding of what man lying w/ man and women doing so also means...the only ones that seem to have a problem with it are homosexuals...go figure...
If you're claiming God has given such clarification to you personally, then you need to provide documentation from God proving you're His designated spokesperson on earth.
....Oh HE didn't just clarify it for me...he clarified it for 'everyone'(that really want to know)......
Sorry, not interested in your latest dessert creation.
I understand why...it's pretty difficult to pay you any interest...
Sorry, the personal biblical interpretation of a pathological liar like you are neither fact nor "reality" for anyone but yourself.
Of course 'you' don't consider it 'reality', you can not even admit it exists....poor you....
...advocacy of discrimination against gays. Obviously you're not solely responsible for passing discriminatory laws that infringe the rights of gays.
I don't discriminate against gays...I don't believe there is any such thing as ssm....
If it was a universal consensus, then ALL Christians would agree with you. The fact is, they don't. Nor do I "blame" Christians collectively for anything. I blame bigots like you for the discrimination to which gays are subjected.
Not so...there are acceptions...but 'universally' means 'most' or 'all over the world'...which is true....those that disagree are likely those that aren't practicing from the Bible...

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Oh it's not a 'may' be it is an 'is'....
Per your personal interpretation, perhaps. But then you aren't God so your opinion isn't definitive.
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Homosexuality carriers with it those sexual acts doesn't it?? Or are you now going to try and deny that too?????[/QUOTE
There are plenty of men who call themselves straight, are married to women and have had sex with other men. Like your husband, for example.

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Sorry, Christians (that follow the Bible) have a 'universal' understanding of what man lying w/ man and women doing so also means...
Sorry, but there are millions of Christians "that follow the bible" who have a universal understanding otherwise. You aren't the arbiter of who is or is not a Christian nor are you God's appointed spokesperson to proclaim HIs intended meaning in Hebrew scripture.
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the only ones that seem to have a problem with it are homosexuals...go figure...[/QUOTE
You've been asking frequently about the prohibition against bestiality; does that mean you have a problem with it? That's in addition to your inquiries whether other posters are underage.

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....Oh HE didn't just clarify it for me...he clarified it for 'everyone'(that really want to know)......
So now you're asserting God is incompetent? ALL Christians should really want to know and follow God's commands; the fact ALL Christians don't agree implies God did a poor job clarifying His intent. Or perhaps, because Christians are false messiah-worshipping idolaters and perverters of Hebrew scripture, God just doesn't care what Christians think.
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I understand why...it's pretty difficult to pay you any interest...
I'm not interested in being paid to eat your poopcake either.
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Of course 'you' don't consider it 'reality', you can not even admit it exists....poor you....
On the contrary, I admit your personal interpretation of the bible exists. It's just that I, like millions of Christians ad Jews, don't agree with it.
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I don't discriminate against gays...I don't believe there is any such thing as ssm....
And yet it exists in multiple states and countries. SO it would appear it is YOU that has an issue with "reality"
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Not so...there are acceptions...but 'universally' means 'most' or 'all over the world'...which is true....
No, it's not true. You don't get to make up meanings for the word. Universal does not mean "most".

u·ni·ver·sal
adjective

1. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of all or the whole: universal experience.
2. applicable everywhere or in all cases; general: a universal cure.
3. affecting, concerning, or involving all: universal military service.
4. used or understood by all: a universal language.
5. present everywhere: the universal calm of southern seas.

link: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/univer...

I agree it means ALL over the world which means if any exceptions exist, then it's NOT universal.
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those that disagree are likely those that aren't practicing from the Bible...
No, they're likely interpreting the bible differently than you.

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Per your personal interpretation, perhaps. But then you aren't God so your opinion isn't definitive.
....GOD has made HIS position clear...sorry you fight so hard to not accept it....
Sorry, but there are millions of Christians "that follow the bible" who have a universal understanding otherwise. You aren't the arbiter of who is or is not a Christian nor are you God's appointed spokesperson to proclaim HIs intended meaning in Hebrew scripture.
If they followed the Bible...they would have no question, as the Bible is 'very clear' on this subject...you lose again....
So now you're asserting God is incompetent?
Don't put words in my mouth...they only imcompetent one is you....
ALL Christians should really want to know and follow God's commands; the fact ALL Christians don't agree implies God did a poor job clarifying His intent. Or perhaps, because Christians are false messiah-worshipping idolaters and perverters of Hebrew scripture, God just doesn't care what Christians think.
No...that's just satan doing his job in putting doubt in the human mind and heart...not GOD at all..GOD made it 'very clear'....
I'm not interested in being paid to eat your poopcake either.
Why would you have to 'be paid' to be who you are??? Unless you sell yourself...do you???
On the contrary, I admit your personal interpretation of the bible exists. It's just that I, like millions of Christians ad Jews, don't agree with it.
...of course you don't....
And yet it exists in multiple states and countries. SO it would appear it is YOU that has an issue with "reality"
The vast majority of the world isn't even giving this a second thought...that's the reality of it...
No, it's not true. You don't get to make up meanings for the word. Universal does not mean "most".
It means around the world...around the world homosexuality is not a Christian quality....
u·ni·ver·sal
adjective
1. of, pertaining to, or characteristic of all or the whole: universal experience.
2. applicable everywhere or in all cases; general: a universal cure.
3. affecting, concerning, or involving all: universal military service.
4. used or understood by all: a universal language.
5. present everywhere: the universal calm of southern seas.
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I agree it means ALL over the world which means if any exceptions exist, then it's NOT universal.
Thank you for proving I am correct...and, as usual, you are incorrect....
No, they're likely interpreting the bible differently than you.
How can you misinterpret such as clear direction??? I know...willingly.....

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....GOD has made HIS position clear...sorry you fight so hard to not accept it....
If it were clear, there would be universal agreement about the interpretation of Hebrew scripture. But there isn't so your personal interpretation isn't authoritative.

But if you think otherwise, then simply produce your letter from God designating you His spokesperson on earth...
Get That Fool wrote:
If they followed the Bible...they would have no question, as the Bible is 'very clear' on this subject...you lose again....
BUt they do follow the bible - their personal interpretation of it. Just like you follow your personal interpretation of it. If you have no letter from God confirming He agrees with you, then you have nothing.
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Don't put words in my mouth...they only imcompetent one is you....
You were the one that stated God has made HIs word clear to all but can't deal with the fact all Christians and Jews don't agree on interpretation of the bible.
Get That Fool wrote:
No...that's just satan doing his job in putting doubt in the human mind and heart...not GOD at all..GOD made it 'very clear'....
If God made "it very clear", all people would be in agreement. And since satan is a Christian invention, then at least all Jews should agree. Yet neither all Jews nor all Christians agree with your personal interpretation. That means either God is incompetent or God has chosen not to clarify His intention at this time.
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Why would you have to 'be paid' to be who you are???
Why would you have to offer others money to eat the desserts you make?
Get That Fool wrote:
Unless you sell yourself...do you???
I don't sell myself. Is "poopcake" some sort of code word for your streetwalking activities?
Get That Fool wrote:
...of course you don't....
Nor do millions of Christians and Jews.
Get That Fool wrote:
The vast majority of the world isn't even giving this a second thought...that's the reality of it...
Women in a large part of the world don't have the same rights and privileges that women in the US do either. Should we rescind your right to vote until the rest of the world catches up?
Get That Fool wrote:
It means around the world...around the world homosexuality is not a Christian quality....
There's no definition of "universal" that applies only to Christians. Nor do all Christians around the world agree with you anyway. So neither is it a universal Christian quality.
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Thank you for proving I am correct...and, as usual, you are incorrect....
On the contrary, the dictionary citation proved you wrong. Is this an admission you can't read?

[QUOTE who="Get That Fool"]How can you misinterpret such as clear direction???
Because context and translation differences yield other interpretations. It's not my fault you only regurgitate what others have told you to think.
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I know...willingly.....
Indeed you willingly break God's commandments against lying and worshipping idols in the guise of a false messiah.

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Yeah right.
It's my 'opinion' that there really is a difference between a sterile, redumbant gendered couple and marriage.
Terra Firma wrote:
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I'm glad you agree that statement is an opinion.
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I'm sure your mom and dad would have the same 'opinion'.

Oh, and I simply noted your response is indicative of a blonde. Maybe you need to get real and man up...

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I know...just like it's 'opinion' that two ss people can not procreate....she's a card...
Being that deep in de'nile', she has to be Egyptian too...

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I'm sure your mom and dad would have the same 'opinion'.
No, my parents have always been accepting of others different than them. I'm fairly confident that would be true of someone with your intersexed condition too, even though they've not met such a person to my knowledge. They'd likely take exception to your denigration of others that don't reflect majority population characteristics, however.
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Oh, and I simply noted your response is indicative of a blonde.
Maybe you need to get real and man up...
Smile.
Another ad hominem and now negative stereotyping too. How...expected.

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No, my parents have always been accepting of others different than them. I'm fairly confident that would be true of someone with your intersexed condition too, even though they've not met such a person to my knowledge. They'd likely take exception to your denigration of others that don't reflect majority population characteristics, however.
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Another ad hominem and now negative stereotyping too. How...expected.
I said nothing about being or not accepting.

You avoid the issue of how your parents would feel being equated to a duplicate gendered couple.

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I said nothing about being or not accepting.
You avoid the issue of how your parents would feel being equated to a duplicate gendered couple.
No, you asserted they would share the opinion you asserted:

"It's my 'opinion' that there really is a difference between a sterile, redumbant gendered couple and marriage".

and

"I'm sure your mom and dad would have the same 'opinion'."

I stated they didn't react well to people who denigrated others (which is what they would consider your characterization of gays as a "sterile, redumbant gendered couple"). Especially since "redumbant" isn't a real English language word but rather a combination of words that appears to be intended as an insult.
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“Truth has always had many loud proclaimers, but the question is whether a person will in the deepest sense acknowledge the truth, allow it to permeate his whole being, accept all its consequences, and not have an emergency hiding place for himself and a Judas kiss for the consequence.”
Soren Kierkegaard
Does Kierkegaard have any quotes for people who assert their personal opinions as "irrefutable facts" like you do?

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No, you asserted they would share the opinion you asserted:
"It's my 'opinion' that there really is a difference between a sterile, redumbant gendered couple and marriage".
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"I'm sure your mom and dad would have the same 'opinion'."
I stated they didn't react well to people who denigrated others (which is what they would consider your characterization of gays as a "sterile, redumbant gendered couple"). Especially since "redumbant" isn't a real English language word but rather a combination of words that appears to be intended as an insult.
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Does Kierkegaard have any quotes for people who assert their personal opinions as "irrefutable facts" like you do?
And yet, you still gay twirl around your assertion that a sterile redumbant (a term that mocks your assertion)gendered couple is the same as marriage.

An insult to intelligence and your parents.

I posted the appropriate quote, no I don't, it fits you perfectly.

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And yet, you still gay twirl around your assertion that a sterile redumbant (a term that mocks your assertion)gendered couple is the same as marriage.
An insult to intelligence and your parents.
I posted the appropriate quote, no I don't, it fits you perfectly.
Smile.
See you're still spouting off your bigoted twirl and belittling people..Still thinking your protecting straight marriage from the big bad homos, even though it has NO effect on them or you. Just denying rights to be sh*tty. I'm just surprised you're not doing under the guise of being Christian...how sad.

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See you're still spouting off your bigoted twirl and belittling people..Still thinking your protecting straight marriage from the big bad homos, even though it has NO effect on them or you. Just denying rights to be sh*tty. I'm just surprised you're not doing under the guise of being Christian...how sad.
Really. It's bigotry to note the obvious differences between ss couples and marriage?

Closed with a bigoted, hateful statement about Christians.

You are so blind.

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And yet, you still gay twirl around your assertion that a sterile redumbant (a term that mocks your assertion)gendered couple is the same as marriage.
Calling a same sex marriage a "sterile redumbant gendered couple" are your words, not mine. I'm more concerned about equality under the law than comparing things that have no effect on each other.
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An insult to intelligence
ISo you're not insulted; got it..
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and your parents
My parents love me unconditionally; neither my existence nor my aspirations "insult" them. That you think you can project your bigotry and denigration of others on to them has been quite amusing to read your last several posts. With almost each passing day you make very clear why God no longer wants you as a minister to His children.
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I posted the appropriate quote, no I don't, it fits you perfectly.
Smile.
I'm not hiding anywhere or avoiding any consequences; you're the one who uses your apparent bitterness over your genetic anomaly as an excuse to denigrate others different from the majority population.

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Really. It's bigotry to note the obvious differences between ss couples and marriage?
Closed with a bigoted, hateful statement about Christians.
You are so blind.
Smile.
Now your getting the hang of it...Yes it's called Bigotry and Marriage is to be equal for all, not to be denied for your privilege. No, just closed with a hateful statement about the excuse used to deny equality..Your twirl doesn't work..snicker.

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Calling a same sex marriage a "sterile redumbant gendered couple" are your words, not mine. I'm more concerned about equality under the law than comparing things that have no effect on each other.
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ISo you're not insulted; got it..
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My parents love me unconditionally; neither my existence nor my aspirations "insult" them. That you think you can project your bigotry and denigration of others on to them has been quite amusing to read your last several posts. With almost each passing day you make very clear why God no longer wants you as a minister to His children.
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I'm not hiding anywhere or avoiding any consequences; you're the one who uses your apparent bitterness over your genetic anomaly as an excuse to denigrate others different from the majority population.
Those are not 'my words', they are the facts. You are trying to impose an imposter relationship on marriage by avoiding the facts.

You defend it by a troll response and an ad homoan attack on things you know nothing about.

I said nothing about your existence or your aspirations. I said your equating of a ss couple with their unique role in your life is an insult to them, whether they admit it or not.

It is not bigotry or denigration to state reality.

You are clearly in denial. That is why you keep avoiding dealing with the distinctions I note, and close with a feeble attempt to turn jealousy of my honesty into a reflection of your vain attempt to gain self approval on the back of women and children.

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KiMare wrote:
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Really. It's bigotry to note the obvious differences between ss couples and marriage?
Closed with a bigoted, hateful statement about Christians.
You are so blind.
Smile.
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Now your getting the hang of it...Yes it's called Bigotry and Marriage is to be equal for all, not to be denied for your privilege. No, just closed with a hateful statement about the excuse used to deny equality..Your twirl doesn't work..snicker.
Yeah, that's what I was saying...

How's that pretend world working for you honey? Apart from a near senile old man stripping it naked with simple common sense.

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KiMare wrote:
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Those are not 'my words', they are the facts.
No, it's simply your opinion. Asserting it doesn't make it a fact.
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You are trying to impose an imposter relationship on marriage by avoiding the facts.
The legal accomplishment of marriage, creating kinship between previously unrelated parties occurs with gays as well opposite sex people. Whether you think same sex couples conform to your personal beliefs about marriage is irrelevant.
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You defend it by a troll response and an ad homoan attack[QUOTE who="KiMare"]
After all your logical fallacies, including ad hominems, I've endured in your recent replies, I'm entitled. Deal with it or run along.

[QUOTE who="KiMare"]on things you know nothing about.
That more accurately describes your attempts to attribute false feelings to my parents whom you've never met.
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I said nothing about your existence or your aspirations. I said your equating of a ss couple with their unique role in your life is an insult to them, whether they admit it or not.
You aren't the arbiter of what they deem insulting, whether you recognize that fact or not.
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It is not bigotry or denigration to state reality.
You aren't stating reality; your asserting your prejudice.
KiMare wrote:
You are clearly in denial. That is why you keep avoiding dealing with the distinctions I note
You're clearly delusional. That you don't care for how I've responded to your opinions doesn't mean I haven't.
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and close with a feeble attempt to turn jealousy of my honesty
Denigrating others because you're bitter about your personal circumstances is hardly an act of honesty.
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into a reflection of your vain attempt to gain self approval on the back of women and children.
Perhaps you need affirmation from others to gain "self approval" but I don't. Nor do I need or care whether I have approval from a former minister.
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Now your getting the hang of it...Yes it's called Bigotry and Marriage is to be equal for all, not to be denied for your privilege.
Marriage is equal for.....one man and one woman.....that covers all. There has to be a definition, at least a legal one.
No, just closed with a hateful statement about the excuse used to deny equality..Your twirl doesn't work..snicker.
Equality does not turn a man into a woman or vice versa.....a surgeon can and some injection perhaps.

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No, it's simply your opinion. Asserting it doesn't make it a fact.
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The legal accomplishment of marriage, creating kinship between previously unrelated parties occurs with gays as well opposite sex people. Whether you think same sex couples conform to your personal beliefs about marriage is irrelevant.
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That more accurately describes your attempts to attribute false feelings to my parents whom you've never met.
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You aren't the arbiter of what they deem insulting, whether you recognize that fact or not.
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You aren't stating reality; your asserting your prejudice.
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You're clearly delusional. That you don't care for how I've responded to your opinions doesn't mean I haven't.
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Denigrating others because you're bitter about your personal circumstances is hardly an act of honesty.
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Perhaps you need affirmation from others to gain "self approval" but I don't. Nor do I need or care whether I have approval from a former minister.
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Yawn.
In 'terra firma's mind;

-a duplicate gendered couple is exactly the same as a diverse gendered couple.

-a duplicated gendered couple who can NEVER mutually procreate kin, is exactly the same as a diverse gendered couple who NORMALLY procreate.

The rest of your post only continues with that insane stupidity.

Ss couples are not equal to marriage and family. No piece of paper will ever change that.

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