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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1420 May 16, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
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Your belief that OnA Churches don't follow the historical roots of Christianity and the Congregational (Puritan) roots is strictly your opinion. Congregational Church history did not address homosexuality.
Wrong.

Again.

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“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1421 May 16, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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Yes, I had read that individual UCC churches were allowed doctrinal independence. That's why I referred to it as the "denominational" affirming policy towards gays. And as I didn't know what your local Hawaii congregation had decided, I inquired whether it played a role in your decision to leave that ministry.
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That many people repeatedly engage in anal intercourse without harm refutes your subjective characterization of the practice as "inherently" harmful. Your cited article asserts the practice is inherently risky (with which I would agree).
Perhaps if you understood the definition of "inherent", you wouldn't be confused:
in·her·ent
adjective
existing in someone or something as a permanent and inseparable element, quality, or attribute:
link: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inhere...
Since harm isn't a result of anal intercourse for ALL participants, it's not an "inseparable element, quality or attribute" of anal intercourse.
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On the contrary, your characterization of my question as a "slanderous troll response" was an unwarranted conclusion and your mischaracterization of anal sex as "inherently harmful" was your personal subjective judgment, not a conclusion of the link you provided.
I didn't say just 'my' Church rejected excusing immorality, I said the Big Island district reject it. Hence, your insinuation that I was booted for disagreeing was false.

As one doctor put it, "Too much lubrication is almost enough, and an anal condom is essential." The result? Marginally safe anal abuse. Bleeding still often occurs. As the article puts it,'a literal freeway for bacteria.'

That's the real dirt Terra.

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#1422 May 16, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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There is only one way to interpret man lying w/ man...just as there is only one way to interpret man/woman lying with a beast...regardless of what you want to call it...
Not true. Proper bible study requires understanding of the time, culture and context of the writings both to the culture and times and to other parts of the writings. There's also possible translation issues of ancient Hebrew into English.

Once again, it merely assert your personal belief as fact when it's simply not so.
Get That Fool wrote:
LOL! Oh wow! How would a man lie with a man as he would a woman??? I know....SEXUALLY!!! Interpretation cleared up.....
And yet if the only allowable sexual contact between men and women was penile/vaginal penetration, how can a man penetrate something another man doesn't have?

When you let others tell you how to think, you rarely consider all the possibilities, FOOL.
Get That Fool wrote:
I don't need a 'universal' interpretation...I'm perfectly capable of reading and interpreting it for what it says.....I'm not trying to change it....
Neither are others who read it but interpret it differently than you.

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#1423 May 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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I didn't say just 'my' Church rejected excusing immorality, I said the Big Island district reject it. Hence, your insinuation that I was booted for disagreeing was false.
I didn't insinuate that; you jumped to an erroneous conclusion. I simply asked the question of whether disagreement over something you deemed "clearly heretical" was the reason for you leaving your ministry. I never used the term "booted". That's your mischaracterization.
KiMare wrote:
As one doctor put it, "Too much lubrication is almost enough, and an anal condom is essential." The result? Marginally safe anal abuse. Bleeding still often occurs. As the article puts it,'a literal freeway for bacteria.'
That's the real dirt Terra.
Smile.
Which doesn't change the fact anal sex is inherently risky, not inherently "harmful" since there are people who engage in such actitivy repeated without "harm".

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#1424 May 16, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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Not true. Proper bible study requires understanding of the time, culture and context of the writings both to the culture and times and to other parts of the writings. There's also possible translation issues of ancient Hebrew into English.
It was translated...so, problem solved...
Once again, it merely assert your personal belief as fact when it's simply not so.
It simply 'is' so...you are trying every which way you can think of to mean something else...but it just doesn't...sorry...you have to face the truth....
And yet if the only allowable sexual contact between men and women was penile/vaginal penetration, how can a man penetrate something another man doesn't have?
They pretended.....
When you let others tell you how to think, you rarely consider all the possibilities, FOOL.
Who am I telling how to think???? Of course if that person isn't thinking at all, maybe somebody 'needs' to tell them....
Neither are others who read it but interpret it differently than you.
You mean people who can't accept that homosexuality is an abomination to GOD...can't speak for them...

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1425 May 16, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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I didn't insinuate that; you jumped to an erroneous conclusion. I simply asked the question of whether disagreement over something you deemed "clearly heretical" was the reason for you leaving your ministry. I never used the term "booted". That's your mischaracterization.
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Which doesn't change the fact anal sex is inherently risky, not inherently "harmful" since there are people who engage in such actitivy repeated without "harm".
More silly stupid gay twirl denial.

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#1426 May 16, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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It was translated...so, problem solved...
I can understand why stupid people like you would think so.
Get That Fool wrote:
It simply 'is' so...you are trying every which way you can think of to mean something else...but it just doesn't...sorry...you have to face the truth....
Nope. Asserting your personal belief does not make something fact.

[QUOTE who="Get That Fool"]They pretended.....
Then I guess that would make it a "pretend" sin too.
Get That Fool wrote:
Who am I telling how to think???? Of course if that person isn't thinking at all, maybe somebody 'needs' to tell them....
You obviously aren't reading either. I said you shouldn't let others tell you how to think. But since you rarely think, perhaps that is why you need others to do it for you.
Get That Fool wrote:
You mean people who can't accept that homosexuality is an abomination to GOD...can't speak for them...
No, people who don't interpret that passage as referring to "homosexuality". BUt there's little dissent among people that God prohibits lying and thus considers your lying lips an abomination.

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#1427 May 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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More silly stupid gay twirl denial.
SMile.
Just your oft employed code words meaning "unable to respond to the points made".

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

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#1428 May 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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More silly stupid gay twirl denial.
SMile.
Terra Firma wrote:
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Just your oft employed code words meaning "unable to respond to the points made".
No code, just the facts as usual.

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#1429 May 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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As one doctor put it, "Too much lubrication is almost enough, and an anal condom is essential."
Smile.
The same doctor said, regarding sex with Kimare, "too much alcohol is almost enough and a paper bag over the head is essential."

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#1430 May 16, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
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More silly stupid gay twirl denial.
SMile.
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No code, just the facts as usual.
Smile.
Nope, just more of your personal opinion asserted erroneously as fact.

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#1431 May 17, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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Nope, just more of your personal opinion asserted erroneously as fact.
Yeah right.

It's my 'opinion' that there really is a difference between a sterile, redumbant gendered couple and marriage.

Silly girl.

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#1432 May 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Yeah right.
It's my 'opinion' that there really is a difference between a sterile, redumbant gendered couple and marriage.
I'm glad you agree that statement is an opinion.
KiMare wrote:
Silly girl.
SMile.
Ad hominem fallacy. How unsurprising.

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#1433 May 17, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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I can understand why stupid people like you would think so.
...and I understand why liars like you wouldn't think so....
Then I guess that would make it a "pretend" sin too.
Then I guess you would be wrong...as usual....
You obviously aren't reading either. I said you shouldn't let others tell you how to think. But since you rarely think, perhaps that is why you need others to do it for you.
Ummmm, if I let others do the thinking for me...I wouldn't be sitting here defending traditional marriage on a gay marriage forum, so...what planet do 'you' live on???
No, people who don't interpret that passage as referring to "homosexuality". BUt there's little dissent among people that God prohibits lying and thus considers your lying lips an abomination.
Well you better be careful then...cause lying about homosexuality being an ABOMINATION to GOD has got to be an ABOMINATION....

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#1434 May 17, 2013
KiMare wrote:
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Yeah right.
It's my 'opinion' that there really is a difference between a sterile, redumbant gendered couple and marriage.
Silly girl.
SMile.
I know...just like it's 'opinion' that two ss people can not procreate....she's a card...

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#1435 May 17, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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...and I understand why liars like you wouldn't think so....
Your inability to understand context or translation issues in bible study doesn't make my assertions lies, cupcake.
Get That Fool wrote:
Then I guess you would be wrong...as usual....
So you can't tell the difference between "pretend" and reality? That explains a lot about you.
Get That Fool wrote:
Ummmm, if I let others do the thinking for me...I wouldn't be sitting here defending traditional marriage on a gay marriage forum, so...what planet do 'you' live on???
That comment pertained to your misconceptions regarding bible interpretation, not your advocacy of discrimination against gays. Is your Alzheimer's acting up that you can't remember posts from yesterday?
Get That Fool wrote:
Well you better be careful then...cause lying about homosexuality being an ABOMINATION to GOD has got to be an ABOMINATION....
All I've stated is there's no universal agreement among Christians or Jews regarding interpretation of that verse of Leviticus. You're the one asserting there is and that it happens to be YOUR interpretation.

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#1436 May 17, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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I know...just like it's 'opinion' that two ss people can not procreate....
Arguing against your own straw men, again?
Get That Fool wrote:
she's a card...
I'm not female.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

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#1437 May 17, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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Arguing against your own straw men, again?
Nope, just agreeing with how ridiculous you are...
I'm not female.
Good for you...

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#1438 May 17, 2013
Terra Firma wrote:
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Your inability to understand context or translation issues in bible study doesn't make my assertions lies
It's your 'inability' to admit homosexuality is offensive to GOD that makes you the liar...poopcake.....
So you can't tell the difference between "pretend" and reality? That explains a lot about you.
Obviously facing 'reality' is not a fault of my own, but a fault of yours...homosexuality is offensive to GOD...reality..face it...
That comment pertained to your misconceptions regarding bible interpretation, not your advocacy of discrimination against gays.
My answer still applies...I don't discriminate against anyone...sorry, you lose again...
All I've stated is there's no universal agreement among Christians or Jews regarding interpretation of that verse of Leviticus. You're the one asserting there is and that it happens to be YOUR interpretation.
Actually, the reason you blame Christians for your woes is because their 'is' a universal consensus....It's an 'abomination' to GOD as the Bible says...sorry, you lose again....

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#1439 May 17, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
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It's your 'inability' to admit homosexuality is offensive to GOD that makes you the liar...
"Homosexuality" isn't offensive to God. Certain sexual acts between men may or may not be, but there's no universal agreement on how to interpret Hebrew scripture and thus far God has chosen not to provide clarification that ALL people have recognized as such. If you're claiming God has given such clarification to you personally, then you need to provide documentation from God proving you're His designated spokesperson on earth.
Get That Fool wrote:
poopcake.....
Sorry, not interested in your latest dessert creation.
Get That Fool wrote:
Obviously facing 'reality' is not a fault of my own, but a fault of yours...homosexuality is offensive to GOD...reality..face it...
Sorry, the personal biblical interpretation of a pathological liar like you are neither fact nor "reality" for anyone but yourself.
Get That Fool wrote:
My answer still applies...I don't discriminate against anyone...sorry, you lose again...
I said advocacy of discrimination against gays. Obviously you're not solely responsible for passing discriminatory laws that infringe the rights of gays.
Get That Fool wrote:
Actually, the reason you blame Christians for your woes is because their 'is' a universal consensus....
If it was a universal consensus, then ALL Christians would agree with you. The fact is, they don't. Nor do I "blame" Christians collectively for anything. I blame bigots like you for the discrimination to which gays are subjected.
Get That Fool wrote:
It's an 'abomination' to GOD as the Bible says...sorry, you lose again....
So is your worship of a false messiah and idol. So are your lying lips. So is your failure to follow all 613 mitzvot of Torah if you think any single one of them applies to everyone. Even Jesus condemned the unmitigated hypocrisy such as you display here.

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