Lesbian couple in gay marriage case prepares for Supreme Court decision

Full story: Fox News 1,568
Big change is coming to the lives of the lesbian couple at the center of the fight for same-sex marriage in California no matter how the Supreme Court decides their case. Full Story
Nobody

Dallas, TX

#1211 May 10, 2013
Xavier Breath wrote:
<quoted text>At least I don't lie through my teeth and then hide behind jesus, like YOU do.
lol, you are NO better.

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1213 May 10, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Sweetie, unlike yourself, I have integrity, you might try it sometime.
Not on 'this' subject you don't....

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1214 May 10, 2013
Uh-oh...that 'pesky' slippery slope issue is so real you can feel it......

B.C. Supreme Court to rule on Canada’s polygamy law

Courtesy of: The National Post:
nationalpost.com

VANCOUVER — The constitutionality of Canada’s polygamy law will be decided Wednesday by B.C. Supreme Court Chief Justice Robert Judge Bauman.

If the judge decides to strike down the polygamy law, it could have wide-ranging implications for pensions, health benefits and immigration policies, a Vancouver lawyer said Tuesday.

“Potentially there are a number of implications beyond whether or not polygamy is legal,” Ron Skolrood explained.

“It could affect survivor rights to pensions,” he said, adding it also could affect health benefits if a person claims more than one spouse and children from multiple marriages.

It could also have an impact on Canada’s immigration policies for family reunification, Mr. Skolrood said. Appeal already expected

Striking down the law also could significantly affect the way Canadians define the institution of marriage, he added,

---------similar to the way the same-sex marriage reference case in 2004 resulted in a move away from the traditional definition of marriage.-------

Cont'd.........

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1215 May 10, 2013
No matter which way the judge rules, Mr. Skolrood said he expects the decision will be appealed to the B.C. Court of Appeal because of the high level of public interest in the outcome.

But if Judge Bauman strikes down the law as unconstitutional, the federal government could send a reference case directly to the Supreme Court of Canada, he added.

“It will be interesting to see how he deals with the evidence,” Mr. Skolrood said.

Religious freedom pitted against risk of harm to women, children

The judge heard 42 days of legal arguments during the unusual reference case, with opposing parties arguing the right to religious freedom and the risk of harm polygamy poses to women and children.

The governments of Canada and B.C. presented evidence of polygamy’s harms, arguing that the practice puts women and children at risk, thereby justifying limiting religious freedom as well as freedoms of association and expression.

The government positions were supported by anti-polygamy activists, advocates for women’s and children’s rights and the Christian Legal Fellowship.

Seems reasonable...right???

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1216 May 10, 2013
The court appointed an “amicus curiae,” a Latin term meaning friend of the court, to argue in favour of striking down the polygamy law, which has made it illegal since 1892 to have more than one spouse.

Those favouring striking down the law included the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, polyamorists and civil libertarians, who argued that Section 293 of the Criminal Code is overly broad, criminalizing consenting adults whose conjugal relationships are benign and even beneficial for all involved.

“By intruding into adults’ decisions about the form of conjugal relationship that best meets their personal needs and aspirations, the law overextends the reach of the criminal law into individuals’ private lives, intruding into their most private relationships,” the B.C. Civil Liberties Association argued.

The B.C. attorney-general’s lawyers also filed a list of 31 under-aged girls with birthdates and marriage dates, along with the names of the parents and relatives who trafficked them between Canada and the United States to marry FLDS elders.

On the central issue in the case — whether the practice of polygamy involves the potential for abuse of women and children in polygamous communities — the court heard evidence from individuals who have had both positive and negative experiences with polygamous relationships.

The reference questions were put before the court by the provincial attorney-general after a stay of proceedings in the polygamy prosecutions of Winston Blackmore and James Oler of the Bountiful community in B.C.

The two men were charged in 2009 with practising polygamy at Bountiful.

Cont'd....

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1217 May 10, 2013
A judge stayed the charges after concluding the selective way the province chose the prosecutors violated the men’s rights, prompting the government to launch a constitutional reference case.

Bountiful residents follow the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, or FLDS. Polygamy is practised as a tenet of the faith but the mainstream Mormon church renounced multiple marriages more than 100 years ago.

The provincial government refereed the case to the court to answer two questions:

• Is section 293 of the Criminal Code of Canada consistent with the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms? If not, in what particular or particulars and to what extent?

• What are the necessary elements of the offence in section 293 of the Criminal Code of Canada? Without limiting this question, does section 293 require that the polygamy or conjugal union in question involved a minor, or occurred in a context of dependence, exploitation, abuse of authority, a gross imbalance of power, or undue influence?

Interesting stuff...

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#1218 May 10, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
Interesting stuff...
Exactly what does polygamy in Canada, regardless of how it is ruled, have anything to do with the United States?

“You Get My Truth Here!”

Since: May 09

Nonya!

#1219 May 10, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Exactly what does polygamy in Canada, regardless of how it is ruled, have anything to do with the United States?
The same thing ssm in Canada had anything to do with the United States when you all were using them as an example of how the 'slippery slope' wasn't going to happen...but as you can see..you all were wrong...it's happening as we speak......

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#1220 May 10, 2013
Get That Fool wrote:
<quoted text>
The same thing ssm in Canada had anything to do with the United States when you all were using them as an example of how the 'slippery slope' wasn't going to happen...but as you can see..you all were wrong...it's happening as we speak......
What exactly does "you all" mean?

Again, we aren't in Canada and our laws are different regarding polygamy and again, it only matters to you because you can clearly see that Marriage Equality is coming to a State near you soon:-)

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#1221 May 10, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
What exactly does "you all" mean?
Again, we aren't in Canada and our laws are different regarding polygamy and again, it only matters to you because you can clearly see that Marriage Equality is coming to a State near you soon:-)
How can it be about equality? Ss couples will only be a sterile duplicate half of marriage.

Smile.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#1222 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How can it be about equality? Ss couples will only be a sterile duplicate half of marriage.
Smile.
That is your opinion, but we don't prevent infertile/sterile men or women from marrying and therefore it matters not whether Gays and Lesbians are capable of procreation........:-

Just this month alone we will have gained 3 more states.......more to follow!!!

By the way......Equal means with regards to State and Federal rights, benefits and privileges that opposite-sex couples receive!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#1223 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How can it be about equality? Ss couples will only be a sterile duplicate half of marriage.
Smile.
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
That is your opinion, but we don't prevent infertile/sterile men or women from marrying and therefore it matters not whether Gays and Lesbians are capable of procreation........:-
Just this month alone we will have gained 3 more states.......more to follow!!!
By the way......Equal means with regards to State and Federal rights, benefits and privileges that opposite-sex couples receive!!!
My opinion??? Are you an idiot?

By the way, usually we don't know if someone is infertile until they marry. On the other hand, we always know a ss couple is mutually infertile.

Moreover, marriage rights and protections were designed for mothers and children. Man up honey! Get your own rights.

A ss couple will NEVER equal a marriage. It simply can't.

Smile.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#1225 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How can it be about equality? Ss couples will only be a sterile duplicate half of marriage.
Smile.
<quoted text>
My opinion??? Are you an idiot?
By the way, usually we don't know if someone is infertile until they marry. On the other hand, we always know a ss couple is mutually infertile.
Moreover, marriage rights and protections were designed for mothers and children. Man up honey! Get your own rights.
A ss couple will NEVER equal a marriage. It simply can't.
Smile.
Are you really that stupid? or just playing at it? Couples DON'T have to get married in order to procreate, so yea.......they can know before they ever get married and I have many heterosexual married couples who have NO children because of reproductive issues......should their marriages be void because they can't have children naturally between them?

Why don't you pull your head outta your azz and realize that marriage and the rights, benefits and privileges go way beyond just protecting women and children!!!

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#1226 May 10, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How can it be about equality? Ss couples will only be a sterile duplicate half of marriage.
Smile.
<quoted text>
My opinion??? Are you an idiot?
By the way, usually we don't know if someone is infertile until they marry. On the other hand, we always know a ss couple is mutually infertile.
Moreover, marriage rights and protections were designed for mothers and children. Man up honey! Get your own rights.
A ss couple will NEVER equal a marriage. It simply can't.
Smile.
Fabulous! You've found yet another thread on which to copy and paste. Good luck with that, Kuntmary.

“Busting Kimare's”

Since: Feb 13

Clitty

#1227 May 10, 2013
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you really that stupid? or just playing at it? Couples DON'T have to get married in order to procreate, so yea.......they can know before they ever get married and I have many heterosexual married couples who have NO children because of reproductive issues......should their marriages be void because they can't have children naturally between them?
Why don't you pull your head outta your azz and realize that marriage and the rights, benefits and privileges go way beyond just protecting women and children!!!
He has to stick with the women/children schtick because he's already been forced to admit that SSM affects his marriage not one iota.

Further, he's not REALLY that stupid; he's just trolling to kill some time while he enjoys the slow descent into senility.

“TAKIA AND TA TONKA”

Since: Aug 08

HAPPY TOGETHER!!!

#1228 May 11, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
He has to stick with the women/children schtick because he's already been forced to admit that SSM affects his marriage not one iota.
Further, he's not REALLY that stupid; he's just trolling to kill some time while he enjoys the slow descent into senility.
Thanks for the heads up.......lol!!!

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#1229 May 11, 2013
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
How can it be about equality? Ss couples will only be a sterile duplicate half of marriage.
Smile.
<quoted text>
My opinion??? Are you an idiot?
By the way, usually we don't know if someone is infertile until they marry. On the other hand, we always know a ss couple is mutually infertile.
Moreover, marriage rights and protections were designed for mothers and children. Man up honey! Get your own rights.
A ss couple will NEVER equal a marriage. It simply can't.
Smile.
NorCal Native wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you really that stupid? or just playing at it? Couples DON'T have to get married in order to procreate, so yea.......they can know before they ever get married and I have many heterosexual married couples who have NO children because of reproductive issues......should their marriages be void because they can't have children naturally between them?
Why don't you pull your head outta your azz and realize that marriage and the rights, benefits and privileges go way beyond just protecting women and children!!!
Oh, I understand now, you are not stupid, you are blonde!

You are suggesting that couples procreate FIRST, and then get married.

Marriage has never been a problem for sterile couples BEFORE sterile, redumbant halves demanded to impose an imposter relationship on marriage.

Again, man up honey, get your own rights! Why are you ashamed of your own identity???

Smile.

“KiMare'a the Monster Mutation”

Since: Nov 10

Location hidden

#1230 May 11, 2013
Dusty Mangina wrote:
<quoted text>
Fabulous! You've found yet another thread on which to copy and paste. Good luck with that, Kuntmary.
I simply state truth on various sites.

You troll on various sites.

See the difference?

Snicker.
Quest

Hanover, VA

#1231 May 11, 2013
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
.......
Oh, I understand now, you are not stupid, you are blonde!
You are suggesting that couples procreate FIRST, and then get married.
....
Yes, and in increasingly large numbers.

The stats aren't hard to look up.
Quest

Hanover, VA

#1232 May 11, 2013
The is no point in arguing with the irrational. Proof and logic will never sway them. Stats have no meaning. Evidence is only an inconvenience.

Why bother?

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

California Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting... (Jan '09) 40 min wojar 179,264
Who's got your vote in the California State Tre... 1 hr Donny B 1
Who are you voting for in the California Lieute... 3 hr james marple 1
Gay marriage (Mar '13) 3 hr Twisty 56,617
Who's got your vote in the California State Con... 3 hr Topix Polls 0
Who's got your vote in the California State Sup... 3 hr Topix Polls 0
Who's got your vote in the California Insurance... 3 hr Topix Polls 0

California People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE