Collective bargaining for state worke...

Collective bargaining for state workers in jeopardy

There are 289 comments on the Daily Democrat story from Feb 23, 2011, titled Collective bargaining for state workers in jeopardy. In it, Daily Democrat reports that:

Following the lead of Wisconsin's governor, a Republican state assemblyman announced legislation Tuesday intended to eliminate collective bargaining for pension benefits by California's public employees.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at Daily Democrat.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#83 Mar 18, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
<quoted text>
For many years I worked as a government employee who earned significantly less than contractors working on the same job. The harassment was vary intense and hurtful at times.
Do you know how demoralizing it is to be told by management to assist in every means possible a consultant who makes twice what you make? Get that? Politicians hire top dollar consultants and than direct low paid rank and file state employees to do the work the consultant is being paid to do.
Makes you just love those repubican bosses!
Yet even with my less than prevailing wages I shopped and supported union businesses. I wouldn’t shop at wally -mart or target. I’d rather pay a little more for American made than for chi -com crap.
And as there are less and less union made items on the shelves it’s becoming impossible to support American labor so I to will now spend a significant amount of my CALPERS and Social Security on out -of -state/country items/services.
I’m buying a new travel trailer and it’s coming from out of state because I couldn’t see buying something from my Caulifornia neighbors who want to screw me out of my retirement.
Oh and the moron with the link to the poll, my wife took a 14% cut in wages, pays more into her PERS and contributes more to her medical benefits.
So by choosing to buy out of state you most likely bought from people that despise government workers even more than the average Californian…………..LOL
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#84 Mar 18, 2011
By buying out of state I'll still pay Caulifornia taxes butt it cuts out the middle man who hates everything Caulifornian except our money.

Really laughing my a s s off now!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#85 Mar 18, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
By buying out of state I'll still pay Caulifornia taxes butt it cuts out the middle man who hates everything Caulifornian except our money.
Really laughing my a s s off now!
But I can guarantee you that the manufacture hates California more than anyone living in the state……….

Travel the country a little and you will see……..

Besides there are nearly new units for 50 cents on the dollar as people can’t afford to keep them….
I have a friend that what looking at a new pusher and I convinced him to look at some of the used ones.

He got a 46 foot pusher with a 400 Cummings 11rx24.5 tires and air brakes.
The unit sold new in 2009 for 800k and he picked it up for 305k just before it was going to be repossessed.
He gave 5k to the owner and Prevost carried the 300k
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#86 Mar 19, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
But I can guarantee you that the manufacture hates California more than anyone living in the state……….
Travel the country a little and you will see……..
Besides there are nearly new units for 50 cents on the dollar as people can’t afford to keep them….
I have a friend that what looking at a new pusher and I convinced him to look at some of the used ones.
He got a 46 foot pusher with a 400 Cummings 11rx24.5 tires and air brakes.
The unit sold new in 2009 for 800k and he picked it up for 305k just before it was going to be repossessed.
He gave 5k to the owner and Prevost carried the 300k
Lesser of two evils.........

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#87 Mar 19, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
<quoted text>
Lesser of two evils.........
Buying from a dealer that no tax money will go to the state and the dealer must really hate California as he does not even live or work there is the lesser of two evils???

And then you could buy the exact same thing for half price and save some person from ending up having their credit report trashed is more evil??

Have you thought of running for office??
You make as much sense as the clown in the Whitehouse……………..LOL

Oslama said the same thing with oslamacare…………
I will not sign a paper allowing you to buy health insurance for one tenth of the current price but I will force the insurance companies to raise prices and then force you to buy the insurance at a price of more than 15 times of market value……
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#88 Mar 19, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Buying from a dealer that no tax money will go to the state and the dealer must really hate California as he does not even live or work there is the lesser of two evils???
Damn you have a comprehension problem. Aren’t you embarrassed by your inability to understand what you read? Are you a little kid, mentally challenged, or what?

Where did I ever say the taxes wouldn't go to Caulifornia?

Read post # 84 R E A L S L O W ya moron.

Oh, and I do love Caulifornia, it's the idiots like you that are the problem.

LOL

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#89 Mar 19, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
<quoted text>
Damn you have a comprehension problem. Aren’t you embarrassed by your inability to understand what you read? Are you a little kid, mentally challenged, or what?
Where did I ever say the taxes wouldn't go to Caulifornia?
Read post # 84 R E A L S L O W ya moron.
Oh, and I do love Caulifornia, it's the idiots like you that are the problem.
LOL
Your post #84 does not jive with your post #71

If the trailer was never “floored” in the state then the inventory tax was not collected by California but by another state.
If the trailer was not prepped in the state then the employment taxes were not paid to California but another state.
And what about the job you just sent out of the state??
If the trailer was not bought in the state then the sales tax went to another state……

Are you going to also register it in another state to avoid the high registration fees in California???

And now you are saying that you are smart because you paid double for your trailer??????
I can write a check for any new car made in the USA including a Tesla but I have only bought one new car in my entire life and that was an emergency when the car I was driving burnt to the ground 800 miles from home….
Why??
Why would anyone buy something one day and the very next day it is worth 30% less than what you paid for it……………..LOL

So have fun in your trailer park………..LOL
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#90 Mar 19, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Your post #84 does not jive with your post #71
If the trailer was never “floored” in the state then the inventory tax was not collected by California but by another state.
If the trailer was not prepped in the state then the employment taxes were not paid to California but another state.
And what about the job you just sent out of the state??
If the trailer was not bought in the state then the sales tax went to another state……
Are you going to also register it in another state to avoid the high registration fees in California???
And now you are saying that you are smart because you paid double for your trailer??????
I can write a check for any new car made in the USA including a Tesla but I have only bought one new car in my entire life and that was an emergency when the car I was driving burnt to the ground 800 miles from home….
Why??
Why would anyone buy something one day and the very next day it is worth 30% less than what you paid for it……………..LOL
So have fun in your trailer park………..LOL
Again, where did I ever say the taxes wouldn't go to Caulifornia?

Read post # 71 and 84 R E A L S L O W and you'll see they are consistant ya moron.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#91 Mar 19, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, where did I ever say the taxes wouldn't go to Caulifornia?
Read post # 71 and 84 R E A L S L O W and you'll see they are consistant ya moron.
When you said you were buying it out of state……………….LOL

Was it floored in California?
Was it prep in California?
Was it sold in California??

You are the one that said………….LOL
“’Im buying a new travel trailer and it’s coming from out of state because I couldn’t see buying something from my Caulifornia neighbors who want to screw me out of my retirement.”

So once more was it floored or prep in the state???.......LOL

Talking about a moron………………
Only a moron would buy a new RV in this market………..
here

AOL

#92 Mar 19, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
<quoted text>
And how do you know?
Well this moron will be enjoying herself in Crete using my earned state retirement that was promised to me when I startd 15 years ago.

They have taken almost $500 a month towards my retirement since I've started.

State employee??
Thieves for votes

AOL

#93 Mar 19, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>Well this moron will be enjoying herself in Crete using my earned state retirement that was promised to me when I startd 15 years ago. How about people take away something away from you? How about we break that contract you made? It's not arrogance, it's what is owed and earned. So instead of bashing unions and state workers, you should really do your research on what we really will be living off when we retire. I'm not talking about the top 10% fat cats in the top jobs either. The average state worker.They have taken almost $500 a month towards my retirement since I've started. People who say we don't put in towards it are clueless. And trust me, you wouldn't want to work where I work for 25, 30 years. It is a negative and dark environment. But I chose it because of the retirement, not the pay. So that was my choice. So again, I will not feel bad for getting $4500.00 a month for my retirement. Ok I'm done venting and done with this thread. Yasou Malaka
YOU DON'T WORK IN PRIVATE INDUSTRY!!

In order to fund your lavish retirement benefits the politicians stole money out of my self-employed private industry pocket to give you that in return for your vote!! You did vote for them didn't you!!!

However, your "big benny" time is short, as your group and the politician enabler/thieves have awakened the sleeping, normally quiet, Americans who see what's been going on and don't like being ripped off - and don't like seeing the country they love turning into a 3rd world cesspool so that everyone can be "equal", which means lowest common denominator - equally miserable.

We will take back this country.
Ronald

Westminster, CA

#94 Mar 19, 2011
Big Teachers are Government agents. They are exempted from paying the Social Security tax that the Government imposes on our hard working parents. Most Big Teachers also use the "non smoker" loophole to avoid paying the horrendous tobacco tax the Government imposes on our hard working moms and dads.

Ronald
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#95 Mar 19, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
When you said you were buying it out of state……………….LOL
Where in the above quote do you see the word "TAXES"?

First word "buying".
Second word "out".
Third word "of".
Forth word "state".

Where do I claim I'm not paying taxes? Give a quote from a specific post.

And why do you keep bringing up the fact that you like pre -puberty little boys?

Since: Apr 07

Nashville, TN

#96 Mar 19, 2011
What we have here are elected government officials who have been using the Unions to buy them votes. This is a form of conflict of interest which is highly WRONG and illegal.

Public Unions must never have the power to shut down the government if their demands are not met.

Police must never be able to walk of their jobs putting innocent citizens well being in danger.

Firefighters must never be allowed to walk off the job and allow the destruction of citizens property and lives.

Like wise our teachers must never be allowed to walk off the the job placing our children's education in jeopardy.

My name is Jim Hayden and I AM the next American President.
...FB Jim Hayden for President 2012

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#97 Mar 19, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
<quoted text>
Where in the above quote do you see the word "TAXES"?
First word "buying".
Second word "out".
Third word "of".
Forth word "state".
Where do I claim I'm not paying taxes? Give a quote from a specific post.
And why do you keep bringing up the fact that you like pre -puberty little boys?
Correct………….LOL

That means it was not floored there in California so no inventory tax in California was paid on it…….
It was not prepped in California so no payroll tax was collected………

And that is at the minimum……..
You still after more than ten posts have said if you even paid California state sales tax on it or even registered it in California…..

Because I do……Look at that little ole picture over there on the left by my name……..LOL
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#98 Mar 19, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct………….LOL
That means it was not floored there in California so no inventory tax in California was paid on it…….
It was not prepped in California so no payroll tax was collected………
And that is at the minimum……..
You still after more than ten posts have said if you even paid California state sales tax on it or even registered it in California…..
Because I do……Look at that little ole picture over there on the left by my name……..LOL
You are a nut.........

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#99 Mar 19, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a nut.........
Why won’t you answer the question??
What are you afraid of??

Was it floored in California??
Was it prepped in California?
Was it sold in California?
Was it registered in California?
Did a dealer in California make money and pay income tax on it?
Did someone wash it each week that it sat on a lot in California and have a job and pay taxes?
Was it ever run in a TV, Newspaper or radio ad in California and did the advertiser pay taxes on any of that money?

You complain about corporations not paying tax and you do the same thing they do…………….LOL
Typical far left of the road……………..LOL
lacks knowledge

AOL

#100 Mar 19, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Why won’t you answer the question??
What are you afraid of??
Was it floored in California??
Was it prepped in California?
Was it sold in California?
Was it registered in California?
Did a dealer in California make money and pay income tax on it?
Did someone wash it each week that it sat on a lot in California and have a job and pay taxes?
Was it ever run in a TV, Newspaper or radio ad in California and did the advertiser pay taxes on any of that money?
You complain about corporations not paying tax and you do the same thing they do…………….LOL
Typical far left of the road……………..LOL
Correct.

And it appears this individual cannot answer because they know nothing about taxation and where and to what it attaches and is collected and paid. This lack of simple knowledge is one of the reasons this country is in deep trouble.

And yet, lacking such basic knowledge, this person goes off on one rant after another.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#101 Mar 19, 2011
lacks knowledge wrote:
<quoted text>
Correct.
And it appears this individual cannot answer because they know nothing about taxation and where and to what it attaches and is collected and paid. This lack of simple knowledge is one of the reasons this country is in deep trouble.
And yet, lacking such basic knowledge, this person goes off on one rant after another.
Yep.
And my list was not even anywhere close to complete…….

And he is always complaining about corporations and the rich not paying taxes.
He said once we should tax all money that leaves the state and country……..

Of course until it comes to him…………..LOL
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#102 Mar 19, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Why won’t you answer the question??
What are you afraid of??
Was it floored in California??
Was it prepped in California?
Was it sold in California?
Was it registered in California?
Did a dealer in California make money and pay income tax on it?
Did someone wash it each week that it sat on a lot in California and have a job and pay taxes?
Was it ever run in a TV, Newspaper or radio ad in California and did the advertiser pay taxes on any of that money?
You complain about corporations not paying tax and you do the same thing they do…………….LOL
Typical far left of the road……………..LOL
I'll be glad to answer your questions right after you answer the qustion I asked you first.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

California Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
News BARACK OBAMA BIRTH CERTIFICATE: Suit contesting... (Jan '09) 20 min Dr Guru 194,406
News Gay marriage (Mar '13) 1 hr Rosa_Winkel 60,801
News Higher minimum-wage proposals gain ground in Ne... 2 hr Dem Pipedreamers 119
News Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds ... (Dec '08) 2 hr Archie 54,332
News Rock Royalty Ava Sambora's Guide to the Best Su... 2 hr BJ Fan 1
Does the university of California degree very h... 3 hr jaea001 1
News Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex ma... (Aug '10) 14 hr RiccardoFire 201,854
More from around the web