Collective bargaining for state worke...

Collective bargaining for state workers in jeopardy

There are 289 comments on the Daily Democrat story from Feb 23, 2011, titled Collective bargaining for state workers in jeopardy. In it, Daily Democrat reports that:

Following the lead of Wisconsin's governor, a Republican state assemblyman announced legislation Tuesday intended to eliminate collective bargaining for pension benefits by California's public employees.

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Huh

Clearlake, CA

#63 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>Have you been living under a rock the past few years? We have been getting furlouged for quite awhile. My furlough pay cut equals about $800 a month for over two yeaars now, so you really have no clue what your talking about. What have you been sacrficing for California? How much money a month do you hand over to the state of California? Please answer. I think the state workers have more than given up enough. The snivelers are always the ones who have a crappy job and want everyone else to suffer. If there are many good folks who would take our jobs, how come nobody is applying? Oh, that's right, state workers are evil!
Madam
When public employee union salaries/pensions/healthcare are more in line with the private sector, I will quiet down.
I do not work for the government, so what I do is none of your business, thank you.

I will tell you that I am fine with my place in life with one exception. I am very tired of higher fees/taxes being levied on me by an incompetent state government that has given away the future of California to greedy public employee unions.
If you don't like it,(with all due respect), too friggen bad.
Give up your job, there will be 2000 applicants waiting in line to take the position.
If you haven't noticed, this state is in financial crisis.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#64 Mar 17, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
<quoted text>
It never ceases to amaze me how idiots like huh rage on about those evil government employee butt never say a thing about private industry raping the taxpayer through government contracts. A perfect example would be the dilapidated buildings the state rents/leases from slum -lords, particularly is Sacramento. For some reason the state always pays top dollar for crap butt you never hear a whimper from the righties.
Your days are numbered..

Read it and weep………LOL
Even in California, where union-funded support led to a Democratic sweep of statewide offices last year, voters support reforms in how public-employee pensions and health benefits are funded - a major shift from two years ago, a new survey by UC Berkeley and the Field Poll found

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi...

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#65 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>Wow, you sure are obsessed with Cal Trans. I can feel your anger all the way from Mexico. Scum sucking? That is just your hate and jealousy coming out. Maybe I will work another 5 years and retire at 55 with 90% of my pay. That would really piss you off, wouldn't it?! Do you have a crappy retirement and have to live in Mexico because it's cheaper? Is that why you are so full of envy? I'm not too worried about my retirement. I may have to put more into it a month than I already do, but that's not a problem. I will still retire at 50 and get what I am owed amd EARNED! This is a democratic state remember. The hysteria and mob mentality will die down and focus on something else as usual. I have 10 years left to do and I will enjoying my retirement. Unlike you, who is miserable and envious of others. Get a life!
Your days are numbered..

Read it and weep………LOL
Even in California, where union-funded support led to a Democratic sweep of statewide offices last year, voters support reforms in how public-employee pensions and health benefits are funded - a major shift from two years ago, a new survey by UC Berkeley and the Field Poll found

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi...

“Love Your Life!”

Since: Aug 10

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#66 Mar 17, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Your days are numbered..
Read it and weep………LOL
Even in California, where union-funded support led to a Democratic sweep of statewide offices last year, voters support reforms in how public-employee pensions and health benefits are funded - a major shift from two years ago, a new survey by UC Berkeley and the Field Poll found
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi...
I read it through the Bee. Am I suppossed to be shaking in my boots now? Are you the type that believe in lame polls? I will ride out this hysteria and WILL enjoy my hard earned retirement. I will send you a postcard from Greece where I will be 6 months out of the year when I retire ok?

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#67 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>I read it through the Bee. Am I suppossed to be shaking in my boots now? Are you the type that believe in lame polls? I will ride out this hysteria and WILL enjoy my hard earned retirement. I will send you a postcard from Greece where I will be 6 months out of the year when I retire ok?
Maybe……
Maybe not

But the odds are on the maybe not…….
Even far left loons are saying enough to this crazy spending.

We have enjoyed Sardina a lot more than Greece but for living Puerto Vallarta beats them both hands down.
Huh

Clearlake, CA

#68 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>I read it through the Bee. Am I suppossed to be shaking in my boots now? Are you the type that believe in lame polls? I will ride out this hysteria and WILL enjoy my hard earned retirement. I will send you a postcard from Greece where I will be 6 months out of the year when I retire ok?
I love it when public employees display their arrogant sense of entitlement and perceived security.
Remembe:, many, many folks are sacrificing to make payments on your "6 months in greece every year" through higher taxes, and they are reading these posts.
More fuel for the pension reform fire. Keep it up.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#69 Mar 17, 2011
Huh wrote:
<quoted text>
I love it when public employees display their arrogant sense of entitlement and perceived security.
Remembe:, many, many folks are sacrificing to make payments on your "6 months in greece every year" through higher taxes, and they are reading these posts.
More fuel for the pension reform fire. Keep it up.
Ya let the cat out of the bag……..

Now the moron might shut up………………….

On second thought......it is a moron....So we will here more....LOL

“Love Your Life!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#70 Mar 17, 2011
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Ya let the cat out of the bag……..
Now the moron might shut up………………….
On second thought......it is a moron....So we will here more....LOL
Well this moron will be enjoying herself in Crete using my earned state retirement that was promised to me when I startd 15 years ago. How about people take away something away from you? How about we break that contract you made? It's not arrogance, it's what is owed and earned. So instead of bashing unions and state workers, you should really do your research on what we really will be living off when we retire. I'm not talking about the top 10% fat cats in the top jobs either. The average state worker.They have taken almost $500 a month towards my retirement since I've started. People who say we don't put in towards it are clueless. And trust me, you wouldn't want to work where I work for 25, 30 years. It is a negative and dark environment. But I chose it because of the retirement, not the pay. So that was my choice. So again, I will not feel bad for getting $4500.00 a month for my retirement. Ok I'm done venting and done with this thread. Yasou Malaka
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#71 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>I read it through the Bee. Am I suppossed to be shaking in my boots now? Are you the type that believe in lame polls? I will ride out this hysteria and WILL enjoy my hard earned retirement. I will send you a postcard from Greece where I will be 6 months out of the year when I retire ok?
For many years I worked as a government employee who earned significantly less than contractors working on the same job. The harassment was vary intense and hurtful at times.

Do you know how demoralizing it is to be told by management to assist in every means possible a consultant who makes twice what you make? Get that? Politicians hire top dollar consultants and than direct low paid rank and file state employees to do the work the consultant is being paid to do.

Makes you just love those repubican bosses!

Yet even with my less than prevailing wages I shopped and supported union businesses. I wouldn’t shop at wally -mart or target. I’d rather pay a little more for American made than for chi -com crap.

And as there are less and less union made items on the shelves it’s becoming impossible to support American labor so I to will now spend a significant amount of my CALPERS and Social Security on out -of -state/country items/services.

I’m buying a new travel trailer and it’s coming from out of state because I couldn’t see buying something from my Caulifornia neighbors who want to screw me out of my retirement.

Oh and the moron with the link to the poll, my wife took a 14% cut in wages, pays more into her PERS and contributes more to her medical benefits.
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#72 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>Well this moron will be enjoying herself in Crete using my earned state retirement that was promised to me when I startd 15 years ago. How about people take away something away from you? How about we break that contract you made? It's not arrogance, it's what is owed and earned. So instead of bashing unions and state workers, you should really do your research on what we really will be living off when we retire. I'm not talking about the top 10% fat cats in the top jobs either. The average state worker.They have taken almost $500 a month towards my retirement since I've started. People who say we don't put in towards it are clueless. And trust me, you wouldn't want to work where I work for 25, 30 years. It is a negative and dark environment. But I chose it because of the retirement, not the pay. So that was my choice. So again, I will not feel bad for getting $4500.00 a month for my retirement. Ok I'm done venting and done with this thread. Yasou Malaka
Hey, I know, let's cut social security back to the point that no one gets more out of it than they put in! Yep, works for me....

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#73 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>Well this moron will be enjoying herself in Crete using my earned state retirement that was promised to me when I startd 15 years ago. How about people take away something away from you? How about we break that contract you made? It's not arrogance, it's what is owed and earned. So instead of bashing unions and state workers, you should really do your research on what we really will be living off when we retire. I'm not talking about the top 10% fat cats in the top jobs either. The average state worker.They have taken almost $500 a month towards my retirement since I've started. People who say we don't put in towards it are clueless. And trust me, you wouldn't want to work where I work for 25, 30 years. It is a negative and dark environment. But I chose it because of the retirement, not the pay. So that was my choice. So again, I will not feel bad for getting $4500.00 a month for my retirement. Ok I'm done venting and done with this thread. Yasou Malaka
Oslama does it or try’s to every day…………..LOL
The far left loons have always done that.
The government routinely takes away things that people were promised
Like when they told me I could buy a certain 50. Cal rifle for just under 10k.
One year later they told me that now I could not own it and if I did not turn it in I could face 10 years in prison and a one million dollar fine.
Did they offer to give me my 10k back?
NOPE
They told me I could buy it and then changed their minds

People like you laughed at me when I liquidated all investment property in 2004
Yes I could have held on another year and made a little extra but I saw the writing on the wall.

And now I am telling you some of the other writing on the wall.
In 2004 I also told all of my friends with a government job to think twice about depending on any retirement or bennies.
I said after the housing crash the tax revenue that government sees will plummet and retirements and bennies will be chopped before they just close all government offices.
The private sector workers will revolt and demand that the government workers be stripped of ALL bennies and retirement.
And now we are watching it unfold across the country including California home of the far left loons……

The tide is changing and changing fast
And I don’t think your retirement has as good of odds as a coin toss………..
Huh

Clearlake, CA

#74 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>Well this moron will be enjoying herself in Crete using my earned state retirement that was promised to me when I startd 15 years ago. How about people take away something away from you? How about we break that contract you made? It's not arrogance, it's what is owed and earned. So instead of bashing unions and state workers, you should really do your research on what we really will be living off when we retire. I'm not talking about the top 10% fat cats in the top jobs either. The average state worker.They have taken almost $500 a month towards my retirement since I've started. People who say we don't put in towards it are clueless. And trust me, you wouldn't want to work where I work for 25, 30 years. It is a negative and dark environment. But I chose it because of the retirement, not the pay. So that was my choice. So again, I will not feel bad for getting $4500.00 a month for my retirement. Ok I'm done venting and done with this thread. Yasou Malaka
You spoke of a contract that might be broken.

The fact that public employee contract negotiations were conducted with public employees on both sides of the table doesn't matter, huh? Do you understand the terms "collusion" and "corruption"?
So sorry dear, if you cannot see the ridiculous nature of that scenario, you are foolish.
In addition, elected politicians (Gray Davis for one) accepted millions of dollars in campaign contributions from public employee unions before he implemented 2.5% per year retirement benefits for .....you guessed it, Public mployee Unions.
No corruption there either, huh?

California taxpayers are very nice people, but they are not stupid.
Please continue to allow me the opportunity to present the facts to taxpayers on this corrupt fleecing of taxpayers dollars by continuing your arrogant posts. I thank you in advance.
http://www.californiapensionreform.com/

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Check out our searchable database ...

The CalSTRS $100,000 Pension Club
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Huh

Clearlake, CA

#75 Mar 17, 2011
Middle of the road wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, I know, let's cut social security back to the point that no one gets more out of it than they put in! Yep, works for me....
better yet;
Let's roll Calpers, Calstrs, and UCR into the social security system and let the cards fall where they may....or at least remove the taxpayer guarantees on public employee pension fund performance/payouts, and let the cards fall where they may.
Calpers, Calstrs, and UCR need to stand on their own without being propped up by taxpayers.
Huh

Clearlake, CA

#76 Mar 17, 2011
We taxpayers should not have to guarantee this kind of corruption;

THE TOP 10 LIST of Calpers pension recipients


Name Monthly Annual Employer
MALKENHORST, BRUCE $42,472.05 $509,664.60 VERNON
FUSTER, JOAQUIN $25,207.66 $302,491.92 UC LOS ANGELES
GERTH, DONALD $23,635.76 $283,629.12 CSU SACRAMENTO
GARRETT, WILLIAM $23,191.02 $278,292.24 EL CAJON
STAHL, JAMES $22,587.99 $271,055.88 L A CO SANIT #2
SCHLAG, JOHN $21,725.87 $260,710.44 UC LOS ANGELES
SCHACHTER, JULIUS $21,199.31 $254,391.72 UC SAN FRANCISC
METTE, DONALD $20,083.31 $240,999.72 SACRAMENTO METR
TOONE, ROBERT $19,800.53 $237,606.36 PALMDALE
OKI, DIANNE $19,648.82 $235,785.84 STATE COMP INS
Calpers

Stevinson, CA

#77 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva is not a state employee.
Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#78 Mar 17, 2011
Calpers wrote:
Greek Diva is not a state employee.
And how do you know?

“Love Your Life!”

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#79 Mar 17, 2011
Calpers wrote:
Greek Diva is not a state employee.
Just came back to say, yes, I am a state employee. Why would I say I was if I wasn't? Nitey nite.
Calpers

Stevinson, CA

#80 Mar 17, 2011
Greek Diva wrote:
<quoted text>Just came back to say, yes, I am a state employee. Why would I say I was if I wasn't? Nitey nite.
No, you are not.
Huh

Clearlake, CA

#81 Mar 18, 2011
Calpers wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you are not.
Her attitude is shameful and embarassing, isn't it.
If I were you, I would not claim her either.

Middle of the road

Rancho Cordova, CA

#82 Mar 18, 2011
Calpers wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you are not.
And how do you know?

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