Supreme Court has range of options on...

Supreme Court has range of options on gay marriage

There are 12 comments on the WHIO story from Jun 23, 2013, titled Supreme Court has range of options on gay marriage. In it, WHIO reports that:

Sometime in the next week or so, the Supreme Court will announce the outcomes in cases on California's Proposition 8 ban on same-sex marriage and the federal Defense of Marriage Act .

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“Equality First”

Since: Jan 09

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#1 Jun 23, 2013
As if it hasn't been rehashed a thousand times. I'll be so happy when this is over. At this point I'm not so much interested in getting the answer as avoiding all these repeated columns about their options.
Speedieg

Atlanta, GA

#2 Jun 23, 2013
I think the expectations of the supreme court making some historic decision is misguided. They will refer this back to the states and also rule that gays have no protections under the constitution. It will be written for majority by Scalia who will blather on that homosexuality is a moral question and that the courts don't decide morality, and that sexuality is not covered on the constitution therefore no equal protection under the law.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#3 Jun 23, 2013
Speedieg wrote:
I think the expectations of the supreme court making some historic decision is misguided. They will refer this back to the states and also rule that gays have no protections under the constitution. It will be written for majority by Scalia who will blather on that homosexuality is a moral question and that the courts don't decide morality, and that sexuality is not covered on the constitution therefore no equal protection under the law.
Denying marriage to same-sex couples is gender discrimination; it has nothing to do with sexuality.

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#4 Jun 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Denying marriage to same-sex couples is gender discrimination; it has nothing to do with sexuality.
It IS gender discriminatory!

Since: Aug 08

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#5 Jun 23, 2013
Speedieg wrote:
I think the expectations of the supreme court making some historic decision is misguided. They will refer this back to the states and also rule that gays have no protections under the constitution. It will be written for majority by Scalia who will blather on that homosexuality is a moral question and that the courts don't decide morality, and that sexuality is not covered on the constitution therefore no equal protection under the law.
I don't know if they'll go as far as to say there is no protections whatsoever. If they were to say that a group of Americans have no protections under the constitution I think you'll see chaos in this country on both sides. The constitution didn't mention race or gender either but you see they are protected. If the constitution can protect a chosen belief which is religion I don't see why it cannot also protect people who happen to be attracted to and love the same gender. If taxpaying American citizens are ruled not to have the same rights as other Americans why should they even have to pay taxes? If gays don't have the right to marry then straights must not really have a constitutional right to marry either, it would be a privilege, and why should a couple with opposite genitals be privileged over another genital combination? Many state supreme courts have ruled that marriage is a fundamental, human right which cannot even be denied to people doing life in prison.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#6 Jun 23, 2013
equalityboy81 wrote:
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It IS gender discriminatory!
Correct, and THAT will be how we get equal marriage rights nationwide. The SCOTUS isn't going to make sexual orientation a suspect class, but gender is ALREADY a suspect classification requiring heightened scrutiny. It's a much easier argument to make.

But that's for the next case with the next SCOTUS.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#7 Jun 23, 2013
Obviously the wait is making people on both sides of the issue a bit wiggy. With any luck we'll know where we all stand in less than 24 hrs.
Speedieg

Atlanta, GA

#8 Jun 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Correct, and THAT will be how we get equal marriage rights nationwide. The SCOTUS isn't going to make sexual orientation a suspect class, but gender is ALREADY a suspect classification requiring heightened scrutiny. It's a much easier argument to make.
But that's for the next case with the next SCOTUS.
I hope you right but I don't see it happening. Just like the first ruling on sodomy the members of the court will not do the right thing. They don't want the responsibility.

“Headed toward the cliff”

Since: Nov 07

Tawas City, Michigan

#9 Jun 23, 2013
Speedieg wrote:
<quoted text> I hope you right but I don't see it happening. Just like the first ruling on sodomy the members of the court will not do the right thing. They don't want the responsibility.
Eventually they will. It may take another decade, but eventually they will do the right thing.
hi hi

Philadelphia, PA

#10 Jun 23, 2013
WeTheSheeple wrote:
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Eventually they will. It may take another decade, but eventually they will do the right thing.
I may be an anomaly but I am never, ever concerned with losses in these types of battles. They are of such huge importance and there is such a resounding, clear-cut right and wrong (pro-gay are correct here, antigay incorrect, end of discussion) that I can't relate to anyone getting upset over losses. You turn around and you redouble and you commence fighting again. And again. And again. Losses are immaterial; the court is human and frail and is *OBVIOUSLY* not going to do the *SOLE CORRECT* thing it should be doing in regard to the totality of these cases.

They're too scared.

Not everyone can have a backbone.

Their ruling, if not in accordance with all sensibility in the cases in question, becomes moot and immaterial: The fight rages on.

I was heartened to read that several pro-gay groups have detailed plans of action for *ANY* supreme court outcome. God, it's so necessary. The antigay already do; why shouldn't the pro-gay be ready to go *mental* and redouble the fight?

... because if you KNOW you're morally right (i.e., pro-gay), there is no alternative.

Since: Mar 07

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#11 Jun 24, 2013
hi hi wrote:
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I may be an anomaly but I am never, ever concerned with losses in these types of battles. They are of such huge importance and there is such a resounding, clear-cut right and wrong (pro-gay are correct here, antigay incorrect, end of discussion) that I can't relate to anyone getting upset over losses. You turn around and you redouble and you commence fighting again. And again. And again. Losses are immaterial; the court is human and frail and is *OBVIOUSLY* not going to do the *SOLE CORRECT* thing it should be doing in regard to the totality of these cases.
They're too scared.
Not everyone can have a backbone.
Their ruling, if not in accordance with all sensibility in the cases in question, becomes moot and immaterial: The fight rages on.
I was heartened to read that several pro-gay groups have detailed plans of action for *ANY* supreme court outcome. God, it's so necessary. The antigay already do; why shouldn't the pro-gay be ready to go *mental* and redouble the fight?
... because if you KNOW you're morally right (i.e., pro-gay), there is no alternative.
Right. It would be lovely to have everything go our way, but the other side is wishing for the same outcome.

We need to be prepared whatever the outcome, and keep forcing the issue through every means available - non-stop - until we have obtained ALL the goals.
Speedieg

Atlanta, GA

#12 Jun 28, 2013
I am thrilled to be wrong on this issue, I did not think they had it in them. Well at least 5 of them.

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