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Election Day, California propositions that deserve attention

There are 3 comments on the Examiner.com story from Nov 5, 2012, titled Election Day, California propositions that deserve attention. In it, Examiner.com reports that:

Tuesday is the one day when you can fight City Hall, because it is election day in California.

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Dudley Sharp


#1 Nov 5, 2012
PROP. 34: The Truth Will Kill It
Dudley Sharp

An honest discussion about Prop 34 would result in its overwhelming defeat.


Are the cost claims made by the pro Prop 34 folks reliable (1)? No.

The ACLU cost review was easily destroyed (1) and Mitchell and Alarcon, of the $4 billion study infamy, refuse to share their database (1), which we can presume has problems and, therefore, no one can, responsibly, depend upon that review.

Is it possibly that life without parole (LWOP) may cost more than the death penalty? Yes (1).

Is it required that California citizens allow their representatives to be so irresponsible with both their state budget and death penalty management? Of course not.

Virginia has executed 75% of those sentenced to death and has done so within 7.1 years, on average.

All states, inclusive of California, could implement similar protocols and save money over LWOP.


Is it true that innocents are better protected by a death penalty protocol? Yes, in three different ways (2). Innocents are more at risk without the death penalty (2).


Ask the media (or insert any industry) this question.

How principled are you?

If you had a group of corrupt people, who only wanted to shut down the media, by sabotaging the media, would you say, OK, shut down all media?

Or would you say, let's clean it up, get you bad folks out of the picture, and make it work?

A vote for Prop 34 is a vote for folks who have intentionally obstructed justice in these cases, meaning anti death penalty legislators, the defense bar and judges who have made the death penalty so irresponsible and who are the same folks telling us to reward them by giving them what they have been working for, based upon the horrible system they have engineered.

A better idea.

How about demanding a responsible system, such as Virginia's, whereby 75% of those sentenced to death have been executed within 7.1 years, on average - a system similar to what Ca should have, if responsible folks were in charge.

Calif has executed 1.4% of those sentenced because such mismanagement is what such obstructionists (read Prop 34) had in mind.


In addition, 80% of US folks support the death penalty for, truly, "death penalty eligible" murders (3), just as from 56% to 83% have also supported the death penalty when, wrongly, asked about their approval for the death penalty for murders, for which about 90% are not death penalty eligible (3).

1) California Death Penalty Cost "Studies"

2) a) The Death Penalty: Saving More Innocent Lives

b) Innocents More At Risk Without Death Penalty

3) US Death Penalty Support at 80%; World Support Remains High
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Claremont, CA

#2 Nov 5, 2012
why is it always props to steal more of our money for the politicians and their pimps??? so sick of it.

Wrexham, UK

#3 Dec 30, 2012
The death penalty actually needs to exist. The propositions in california under the senator Barbara boxer a democrat are very damaging. Such as legalizing marijuana, creating vain and needless groups to prevent electricity uses under the name of saving the environment, as well as banning the death penalty. A judge in california has also lifted the ban on same sex marriage within the state and in doing so has flouted the constitution, even when most votes were against same sex marriage.

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