Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 58841 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#46084 Apr 21, 2014
charles in charge wrote:
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Link me to the similarities between your Rightie corporate crooks and carbon credits, fool. Or just admit you're lying desperately.
answer one question. What does a carbon credit produce besides an imaginary benefit? See the difference? Of course not.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#46085 Apr 21, 2014
charles in charge wrote:
<quoted text>
Laws against murder cause more murders, too. And traffic regulations mean more accidents.
And down is up, and up is down....LOL
that thought process does about completely cover the liberal mindset.

“Amor patriae.”

Since: Feb 08

Eastern Oregon

#46086 Apr 21, 2014
Fair Game wrote:
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Climate Depot cites Voice of Russia.
Revealing.
Both sites are full of lies only believed by the party faithful.
Authoritarians are the same whether teabaggers or totalitarians.
On AGW they are even sharing the same propaganda.
You religious fanatics really are all the same. Unbelievers or "deniers" are labeled, anathema. Any deviation from the written word is heresy. Not aligning one's self with your dogma is, in and of itself, a mortal sin, worthy of immediate imprisonment. Or so says some of your high priests.

We heretics are charged with the awesome responsibility of "saving" the planet. We doom our children to a life of heat charged drudgery, being pushed, inexorably, to tiny sweltering islands of humanity by the ever rising seas - unless we conform and, oh yeah, raise taxes. Follow the money.

“Grow the power within yourself”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#46087 Apr 21, 2014
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
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Another radical. Global warming is happening. The Earth is warming. CO2 is a GHG. Burning fossil fuels increases the CO2 in the atmosphere. What don't you understand?
Do you think this is a world wide conspiracy involving ALL the great scientific academies? Where do you get your information?
Yeah yeah, "radical". You think you are soooo clever telling me burning wood leads to CO2. And eating meat really strains the eco system along with Ethanol-corn destroying virgin lands to make more ethanol for a zero-sum carbon exceeding gasolin.

I don't know about "conspiracy". The Global warming fascists are both to stupid and haughty to pull off something like that in an acceptable fashion. However, the entire scientific establishment is falling onto this like a hamster in a wheel. The consensus is staggering, superseding even Saddams election results. And the more normal people question this , the haugtier and nastier you people become.

So, if you care about "global warming" and carbon-credits, why don't you start with no meat, milk, eggs or honey, all combined contributing a lot to your daily excesses. This, along with driving a car. I don't eat any animal products, but Not because I believe in any of this crap. However, YOU as chief pontiff here, need to at least stop eating meat, you selfish, greedy, haughty double-standard tool.

(Of course, if you already are Vegan, give your car away and reduce electricity consumption by at least 95%. Lead by example for once and maybe someone will follow you by choice).
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#46088 Apr 21, 2014
DDDD-25 wrote:
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I see that you are ignorant of how the political system works as well as how the scientific process REALLY works. I know how peer review is supposed to work, but it no longer works because they are now ALL on the same payroll. Stray off the reservation and you are cut off. That's how it works now. I repeat: Anybody who believes that a politico believes more in doing the right thing for all parties concerned, than he does in lying unto his own death for the specific purpose of perpetual re-election, is a moron. A very, very special;, high power moron. One nearly as dense as the matter at the center of a black hole. A person so stupid, he thinks higher taxes are good thing. You really can't get more ignorant than that now, Can you? You should not have children.
politics vs science

Assuming for a moment that climate scientists are right about their crisis predictions on global warming, should then those same scientists be deciding what to do about it? Would not those decisions better be made not by climate scientists but experts in public policy?

This is an extraordinary article that delves into that very issue.

>>I could go on about the consensus or lack thereof on other issues—the relationship between warming and extreme weather events, whether there have been significant changes in extreme weather events, etc.—but the point is I want the field of climate science to do that, so that we can think critically about it and ask questions.

What it shouldn’t be doing—but is—is telling us what political policies, namely fossil fuel policies, to adopt. The question of fossil fuel policy is an interdisciplinary one covering many fields that climate scientists are not experts on.

That means we need botanists to explain to us the potential benefits of increased CO2 in the air for plant growth. We need economists to share their knowledge about the consequences of more expensive energy if fossil fuels are restricted—and the capacity of human beings to adapt to climate change (man-made or not) over a period of decades. We need energy experts to tell us how far away solar, wind, and other alternatives are from providing the benefits of fossil fuels. We need geographers to share their knowledge on whether the climate has become more or less livable as we’ve used fossil fuels.

Having tried to get this information myself from these fields, I believe that if the state of knowledge and agreement in each field were objectively presented, we would conclude that the consequences of continuing to use large amounts of fossil fuels would be overwhelmingly positive to human life, and the consequences of restricting them would be overwhelmingly negative. But right now it’s hard for anyone to know what to conclude, because in today’s “consensus” statements, representatives of scientific fields neither explain the state of knowledge precisely, nor do they stick to their area of specialization.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2014/...

I bet warmists will be quick to respond to those assertions on global warming and completely miss the gist of the argument... that "experts" opinions should be taken in their field of expertise, and that their expertise is limited to their fields.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#46089 Apr 21, 2014
Deniers are traitors to America and accomplices to mass murder to the rest of the world.

“Grow the power within yourself”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#46090 Apr 21, 2014
Nope, so many of the leading "experts" in this field has proven themselves to be dishonest, less than forthright and incredibly arrogant and directly nasty.

We do not necessarily have to do something just because someone create a hype and a hoax. There is little if no dissent about this in academia and those who dare raise questions, can kiss their future careers goodbye. The globalist, corporate thugs and their "scientist" henchmen only is trying to stir up something out of nothing by aid of the UN, dictators in third world looking for more handouts and politicians looking for another way to tax people more.

So, "expert opinions" are just as worthless and Al Gore's opinions when they are so politically tainted as they remain. I also will not put up with the Champagne globalists telling me not to be allowed to do what all of them do, excelling in luxury, energy and what have you.

Hippocrates and the followers here are about as critical as a lamb to slaughter, IMHO
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#46091 Apr 21, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
Zealot say what?
litesong

Everett, WA

#46092 Apr 21, 2014
litesong wrote:
.......but not to sleazy slimy toxic topix AGW denier liars.
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Fair Game wrote:
You couldn't make it up.
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litesong wrote:
But, sleazy slimy toxic topix AGW denier liars make it up.
Mothra

Tempe, AZ

#46094 Apr 21, 2014
litesong wrote:
Talking to yourself again?... take your meds.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#46095 Apr 21, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
Deniers are traitors to America and accomplices to mass murder to the rest of the world.
try to get a conviction on those claims, asshat!
Lol

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#46096 Apr 21, 2014
Socialism is for Sissies wrote:
<quoted text>Wow! You are so full of methane!!
You claim science? Your data is skewed. Explain to me, mental giant, how in the hell can a substance with a severely lower energy density than gasoline cause, as if by magic, the energy density to INCREASE that of gasoline?
This should be interesting coming from a guy that refuses to understand simple physics.
Oh no! A study says I'm right! Biofuels worse for the environment than gasoline usage!
Well what do you gotta say now The Sky is Falling crowd?

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_BIO...
litesong

Everett, WA

#46097 Apr 21, 2014
gcaveman1 wrote:
Deniers are traitors to America and accomplices to mass murder.....
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"ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" gushed:
try to get a conviction on those claims......
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litesong wrote:
"ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" is sure the jury will not have science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc in poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE--plooomaas.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#46098 Apr 21, 2014
litesong wrote:
gcaveman1 wrote:
Deniers are traitors to America and accomplices to mass murder.....
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"ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" gushed:
try to get a conviction on those claims......
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litesong wrote:
"ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" is sure the jury will not have science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc in poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE--plooomaas.
try to make sense, idiotic bird killer.
geeez.
mothra is right......you need meds, son.

“BET DAP”

Since: Feb 09

GOOM BOWN

#46099 Apr 21, 2014
litesong wrote:
litesong wrote:
"ratdownthemiddledownwron ggully" is sure the jury will not have science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra or pre-calc in poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE--plooomaas.
actually....i'm more sure you don't, numbskull....

lol

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#46100 Apr 21, 2014
What is the difference between “hurricane”,“cyclone” and “typhoon”?

"Hurricane", "cyclone" and "typhoon" are different terms for the same weather phenomenon which is accompanied by torrential rain and maximum sustained wind speeds (near centre) exceeding 119 kilometers per hour:

In the western North Atlantic, central and eastern North Pacific, Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico, such a weather phenomenon is called "hurricanes".
In the western North Pacific, it is called "typhoons".
In the Bay of Bengal and Arabian Sea, it is called "cyclones".
In western South Pacific and southeast India Ocean, it is called “severe tropical cyclones.”
In the southwest India Ocean, it is called “tropical cyclones.”

“Sharia, NOT!”

Since: Jul 10

Suffolk, VA

#46101 Apr 21, 2014
flack wrote:
What is the difference between “hurricane”,“cyclone” and “typhoon”?
Ummm, the spelling?
Blonde coed

Corona Del Mar, CA

#46102 Apr 21, 2014
Absolutely gorgeous in Yosemite this past weekend. The earth is so alive and vibrant. Lakes and waterfalls and rivers and hiking paths. Let your worries go.

Here's a good site to see the views.

http://www.tranquilityimages.com/cams.shtml

It was also nice throughout most of the US. Great weather! A few isolated storms, but nothing unusual.

“fairtax.org”

Since: Dec 08

gauley bridge wv

#46103 Apr 21, 2014
Special to Climate Depot:
By Lord Christopher Monckton
Seventeen and a half years. Not a flicker of global warming. The RSS satellite record, the first of the five global-temperature datasets to report its February value, shows a zero trend for an impressive 210 months.
The graph below shows no global warming at all for 17 years 6 months:
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Monctkon analysis:
1: This graph is highly topical. It is right up to date. Remote Sensing Systems, Inc.(RSS) is one of the two satellite-based datasets (the other is the University of Alabama at Huntsville (UAH). And RSS is one of the five standard global temperature datasets, which include the two satellite datasets and the three terrestrial datasets – Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS); the Hadley Centre/CRU dataset, version 4 (HadCRUT4); and the National Climatic Data Center (NCDC). As this month, RSS is usually the first to report, and its latest monthly value, for February 2014, became available just hours ago.
2: The satellite datasets are based on measurements made by the most accurate thermometers available – platinum resistance thermometers, which not only measure temperature at various altitudes above the Earth’s surface via microwave sounding units but also constantly calibrate themselves by measuring the known temperature of the cosmic background radiation, which is 1% of the freezing point of water, or just 2.73 degrees above absolute zero. It was by measuring minuscule variations of the cosmic background radiation that the NASA anisotropy probe enabled the age of the Universe to be determined: it is 13.82 billion years.
3: The graph is accurate. The data are lifted monthly directly from the RSS website. They are read down from the text file by a computer algorithm and plotted automatically using an advanced routine that automatically adjusts the aspect ratio of the data window at both axes so as to show the data at maximum size. The latest monthly data point is visually inspected to ensure that it has been correctly positioned. The light blue trend line plotted beneath the dark blue spline-curve showing the actual data is calculated by the method of least-squares linear regression, which determines the y-intercept and slope of the line via two well-established and functionally identical equations that are compared with one another to ensure no discrepancy between them. Least-squares linear regression is used by the IPCC and by most other agencies for determining global temperature trends. Interestingly, it is recommended by Professor Phil Jones of the University of East Anglia in one of the Climategate emails, so no one on the true-believing side will challenge its appropriateness. The reliability of the trend calculation by the algorithm was verified by Dr Stephen Farish, Professor of Epidemiological Statistics at the University of Melbourne.
4: The graph is news. Not only is it very recent: it is also something that the mainstream news media very seldom reveal. They tend to keep the now embarrassingly long hiatus in global warming secret.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#46104 Apr 21, 2014
VeganTiger wrote:
Nope, so many of the leading "experts" in this field has proven themselves to be dishonest, less than forthright and incredibly arrogant and directly nasty.
IMHO
And some of the leading experts have got fed up with these lies and started suing.

Good job you're an anonymous coward, huh?

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