Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 64134 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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Mothra

United States

#41639 Nov 27, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
motheaten tells itself, it is smarter than people of science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc, displaying a prideful, yet poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa & no science & mathematics degrees.
Ahh... the lame credentials argument again.

You just can't learn can you?

Go be irrelevant elsewhere.
Professor Emeritus Fellow

Corona Del Mar, CA

#41640 Nov 27, 2013
While it is entirely possible that the earth may be warming — as it has done so many times in the past — there is no rational basis whatsoever to support the contention that carbon-dioxide-driven global warming would be on the whole harmful to life and civilization. Quite the contrary: All available evidence supports the contention that human CO2 emissions offer great benefits to the earth’s community of life.

Putting aside for the moment the question of whether human industrial CO2 emissions are having an effect on climate, it is quite clear that they are raising atmospheric CO2 levels. As a result, they are having a strong and markedly positive effect on plant growth worldwide. There is no doubt about this. NASA satellite observations taken from orbit since 1958 show that, concurrent with the 19 percent increase in atmospheric CO2 over the past half century, the rate of plant growth in the continental United States has increased by 14 percent. Studies done at Oak Ridge National Lab on forest trees have shown that increasing the carbon dioxide level 50 percent, to the 550 parts per million level projected to prevail at the end of the 21 century, will likely increase photosynthetic productivity by a further 24 percent. This is readily reproducible laboratory science. If CO2 levels are increased, the rate of plant growth will accelerate.

Now let us consider the question of warming: If it is occurring — and I believe it is, based not on disputable temperature measurements but on sea levels, which have risen two inches in two decades — is it a good thing or a bad thing? Answer: It is a very good thing. Global warming would increase the rate of evaporation from the oceans. This would increase rainfall worldwide. In addition, global warming would lengthen the growing season, thereby increasing still further the bounty of both agriculture and nature.
B as in B S as in S

Minneapolis, MN

#41641 Nov 27, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
motheaten tells itself, it is smarter than people of science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc, displaying a prideful, yet poorly (or non-) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa & no science & mathematics degrees.
Wow... If that is the most intelligent contribution you can make in defense of CAGW Orthodoxy then
you guys are really screwed.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#41642 Nov 28, 2013
Professor Emeritus Fellow wrote:
While it is entirely possible that the earth may be warming — as it has done so many times in the past — there is no rational basis whatsoever to support the contention that carbon-dioxide-driven global warming would be on the whole harmful to life and civilization. Quite the contrary: All available evidence supports the contention that human CO2 emissions offer great benefits to the earth’s community of life.
Putting aside for the moment the question of whether human industrial CO2 emissions are having an effect on climate, it is quite clear that they are raising atmospheric CO2 levels. As a result, they are having a strong and markedly positive effect on plant growth worldwide. There is no doubt about this. NASA satellite observations taken from orbit since 1958 show that, concurrent with the 19 percent increase in atmospheric CO2 over the past half century, the rate of plant growth in the continental United States has increased by 14 percent. Studies done at Oak Ridge National Lab on forest trees have shown that increasing the carbon dioxide level 50 percent, to the 550 parts per million level projected to prevail at the end of the 21 century, will likely increase photosynthetic productivity by a further 24 percent. This is readily reproducible laboratory science. If CO2 levels are increased, the rate of plant growth will accelerate.
Now let us consider the question of warming: If it is occurring — and I believe it is, based not on disputable temperature measurements but on sea levels, which have risen two inches in two decades — is it a good thing or a bad thing? Answer: It is a very good thing. Global warming would increase the rate of evaporation from the oceans. This would increase rainfall worldwide. In addition, global warming would lengthen the growing season, thereby increasing still further the bounty of both agriculture and nature.
Global warming as brought to you by the fossil fuel industry and economic and religious fundamentalists.

Unfortunately it not based on science but on wishful thinking.
LessHypeMoreFact

Orleans, Canada

#41644 Nov 28, 2013
Professor Emeritus Fellow wrote:
While it is entirely possible that the earth may be warming there is no rational basis whatsoever to support the contention that carbon-dioxide-driven global warming would be on the whole harmful to life and civilization.
Well. If it isn't old Brian_G in a new 'incarnation'. Were you 'born again'?
zhangmeerkat

Missoula, MT

#41645 Nov 28, 2013
tina anne wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually a faster solution would be to set off all the nuclear weapons at once. All the worlds problems solved in just a few seconds. Kinda hard on the enviroment, espically if they were all detonated in one location.
The illuminati elite have that planned someday. Did you know they want to establish a one world order, then depopulate the Earth by 80% because a smaller population is easier to control. Get on youtube and search "what is an illuminati". You'll learn a lot about where this world is headed. It falls in line with the Book of Revelation. Hear a little of what Alex Jones has to say also.
litesong

Everett, WA

#41646 Nov 28, 2013
litesong wrote:
motheaten tells itself, it is smarter than people of science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc, displaying a prideful, yet poorly (or not) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa & no science & mathematics degrees.
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motheaten muffs:
Ahh... the lame credentials argument.......
You just can't learn can you?
Go be irrelevant elsewhere.
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litesong wrote:
motheaten went elsewhere to get irrelevant credentials, but what is relevant is it did not learn & has no science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc, for a poorly (or not) earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa & no science & mathematics degrees.

motheaten loves the educationless life.
gcaveman1

San Antonio, TX

#41647 Nov 28, 2013
Professor Emeritus Fellow wrote:
While it is entirely possible that the earth may be warming — as it has done so many times in the past — there is no rational basis whatsoever to support the contention that carbon-dioxide-driven global warming would be on the whole harmful to life and civilization. Quite the contrary: All available evidence supports the contention that human CO2 emissions offer great benefits to the earth’s community of life.
Putting aside for the moment the question of whether human industrial CO2 emissions are having an effect on climate, it is quite clear that they are raising atmospheric CO2 levels. As a result, they are having a strong and markedly positive effect on plant growth worldwide. There is no doubt about this. NASA satellite observations taken from orbit since 1958 show that, concurrent with the 19 percent increase in atmospheric CO2 over the past half century, the rate of plant growth in the continental United States has increased by 14 percent. Studies done at Oak Ridge National Lab on forest trees have shown that increasing the carbon dioxide level 50 percent, to the 550 parts per million level projected to prevail at the end of the 21 century, will likely increase photosynthetic productivity by a further 24 percent. This is readily reproducible laboratory science. If CO2 levels are increased, the rate of plant growth will accelerate.
Now let us consider the question of warming: If it is occurring — and I believe it is, based not on disputable temperature measurements but on sea levels, which have risen two inches in two decades — is it a good thing or a bad thing? Answer: It is a very good thing. Global warming would increase the rate of evaporation from the oceans. This would increase rainfall worldwide. In addition, global warming would lengthen the growing season, thereby increasing still further the bounty of both agriculture and nature.
If it weren't for a few other small matters, like ocean acidification and sea level rise, you might be right.

So by ignoring those effects, we can pretty much figure that you're wrong about everything.
gcaveman1

Houston, TX

#41648 Nov 28, 2013
zhangmeerkat wrote:
<quoted text>The illuminati elite have that planned someday. Did you know they want to establish a one world order, then depopulate the Earth by 80% because a smaller population is easier to control. Get on youtube and search "what is an illuminati". You'll learn a lot about where this world is headed. It falls in line with the Book of Revelation. Hear a little of what Alex Jones has to say also.
If you listen to Alex Jones, you can't listen to reason, and so, no one should listen to you.
zhangmeerkat

Missoula, MT

#41649 Nov 28, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
<quoted text>
If you listen to Alex Jones, you can't listen to reason, and so, no one should listen to you.
Really??? You will know when the S H T F someday. Don't say no one told you so.
Hot coed blond babe

Fullerton, CA

#41650 Nov 29, 2013
Professor Emeritus Fellow wrote:
While it is entirely possible that the earth may be warming — as it has done so many times in the past — there is no rational basis whatsoever to support the contention that carbon-dioxide-driven global warming would be on the whole harmful to life and civilization. Quite the contrary: All available evidence supports the contention that human CO2 emissions offer great benefits to the earth’s community of life.
Putting aside for the moment the question of whether human industrial CO2 emissions are having an effect on climate, it is quite clear that they are raising atmospheric CO2 levels. As a result, they are having a strong and markedly positive effect on plant growth worldwide. There is no doubt about this. NASA satellite observations taken from orbit since 1958 show that, concurrent with the 19 percent increase in atmospheric CO2 over the past half century, the rate of plant growth in the continental United States has increased by 14 percent. Studies done at Oak Ridge National Lab on forest trees have shown that increasing the carbon dioxide level 50 percent, to the 550 parts per million level projected to prevail at the end of the 21 century, will likely increase photosynthetic productivity by a further 24 percent. This is readily reproducible laboratory science. If CO2 levels are increased, the rate of plant growth will accelerate.
Now let us consider the question of warming: If it is occurring — and I believe it is, based not on disputable temperature measurements but on sea levels, which have risen two inches in two decades — is it a good thing or a bad thing? Answer: It is a very good thing. Global warming would increase the rate of evaporation from the oceans. This would increase rainfall worldwide. In addition, global warming would lengthen the growing season, thereby increasing still further the bounty of both agriculture and nature.
That all makes sense from a scientific viewpoint. Lots of indisputable facts. Thanks!
litesong

Everett, WA

#41651 Nov 29, 2013
luke-warm blond baby wrote:
That all makes sense from a scientific viewpoint.
Its good to hear that a toxic topix AGW denier has science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc in its well earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa & has science & mathematics degrees.......... NOT!!!
Sam

Mount Vernon, KY

#41652 Nov 29, 2013
+++++++GOD NOW APPROVES OF SAME-SEX-MARRIAGE!!!+++++++ God has changed His mind regarding Homosexuality!. God can change His mind on matters if He wants to, there are instances in the Bible where God does just that!. This time is no different. God has certainly been answering the big Gays prayers lately!, with their recent Supreme Court victories and all. God wouldn't answer me, a Straight guy!. You know, I once asked God for a wife, 5 months later, He gave me a wh**e!. I do admit, I did used to blaspheme God a couple years on down before this, but I stopped this. I figured this was the reason God raped me. If God didn't want to give me a wife, He sure as Hell didn't have to give me that rotten wh**e!!!. Because God bestowed this evil upon me, my blaspheming Him returned with a vengence!!!. I lay it on old God now and I don't care if I do go burn forever, HAHAHAHAHA!!!. I blaspheme God real good now. I do it more then I ever did and I myself, is a might proud of that fact, HAHAHAHAHA!!!...GIVE ME ANOTHER WH**E GOD!!!!!!!!!.
Mothra

United States

#41653 Nov 29, 2013
Almost 1000 record low max temps vs 17 record high temps

Records in the last 7 days:

205 snowfall records.
969 Low Max. 203 Low temps.
17 High Temp.
61 High minimum.

http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/11/29/nearly...

I know, I know... only warmists can claim weather is climate.

Since: Apr 08

"the green troll"

#41654 Nov 30, 2013
Mothra wrote:
Almost 1000 record low max temps vs 17 record high temps
Records in the last 7 days:
205 snowfall records.
969 Low Max. 203 Low temps.
17 High Temp.
61 High minimum.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/11/29/nearly...
I know, I know... only warmists can claim weather is climate.
And why is the Arctic weather system becoming unstable and dumping cold air over the top of the northern hemisphere?

“CO2 is Gaseous Love”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#41655 Nov 30, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
Medicare is a popular effective program.
It was until Obamacare began raiding it for funding; now Medicare payroll collections are used to fund the ACA. There's just SO much wrong with Obamacare.

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
We needed to use it as a template for a national health insurance program.
Because healthcare.gov e works so well, we want it to be the single payer?

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
But that will never happen because of the hold the insurance industry has on the Congress. What we have is the biggest insurance scam imaginable.
Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law, he's the scammer who said "If you like your healthcare plan you can keep it."

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
We have this because, knowing that healthcare was in shambles and changes were needed, Congress was unable to do change the insurance based health industry because of the impediments that the Republicans placed before it.
Not one Republican voted for Obamacare; blame the Democrats and the President, they enacted this scam.

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
All one needs to do is to study the health care programs in the rest of the industrialized countries in the world to understand this. Unfortunately the politicians are more interested in their war chests and reelection than they are in doing their jobs.
Socialism fails because it takes money from the producers. Look at Frances high taxes and Britain's long waits for trivial health care.

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
BTW, the Fed had to pour money into the economy to avoid the black days that were upon us. At least our economy is going in the opposite direction that it was when President Obama took office.
There's enormous wealth disparity because Obama's friends on Wall Street are flush with the Fed's stimulus. Too bad, so little trickes down to Main Street.

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Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
I am afraid that the obstructionist folks in Congress will use any controversy, real or imagined, to consolidate their perceived power. This is very apparent in the almost unilateral rejection of science, especially global warming.
Even Obama agrees with Senator Ted Cruz, delaying the ACA is the smart political move.

Delay, defund and repeal. Cut wasteful government spending, repeal intrusive regulations and stop higher taxes.
Rocky

Fullerton, CA

#41656 Nov 30, 2013
Mothra wrote:
Almost 1000 record low max temps vs 17 record high temps
Records in the last 7 days:
205 snowfall records.
969 Low Max. 203 Low temps.
17 High Temp.
61 High minimum.
http://www.climatedepot.com/2013/11/29/nearly...
I know, I know... only warmists can claim weather is climate.
It's getting cooler, not warmer according to the evidence. People who believe in global warming must have rocks between their ears. Few truly know science.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#41657 Nov 30, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>It was until Obamacare began raiding it for funding; now Medicare payroll collections are used to fund the ACA. There's just SO much wrong with Obamacare.
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<quoted text>Because healthcare.gov e works so well, we want it to be the single payer?
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<quoted text>Obama signed the Affordable Care Act into law, he's the scammer who said "If you like your healthcare plan you can keep it."
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<quoted text>Not one Republican voted for Obamacare; blame the Democrats and the President, they enacted this scam.
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<quoted text>Socialism fails because it takes money from the producers. Look at Frances high taxes and Britain's long waits for trivial health care.
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<quoted text>There's enormous wealth disparity because Obama's friends on Wall Street are flush with the Fed's stimulus. Too bad, so little trickes down to Main Street.
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<quoted text>Even Obama agrees with Senator Ted Cruz, delaying the ACA is the smart political move.
Delay, defund and repeal. Cut wasteful government spending, repeal intrusive regulations and stop higher taxes.
For your information; Per capita incomes:

1 Luxembourg 111,240 (Christian Social people's party)
2 Norway 94,353 (Socialist)
3 Switzerland 64,015 (Socialist)
4 Ireland 63,185 (Independant -?)
5 Denmark 62,332 (Socialist)
6 Iceland 52,557 (Socialist)
7 Netherlands 52,321 (Socialist)
8 Sweden 52,057 (Socialist)
9 Finland 51,062 (Socialist)
10 Austria 49,900 (Socialist)
11 Australia 47,498 (Socialist)
12 United States 46,716 (NOT SOCIALIST!!!!)
UN statistic expert

Fullerton, CA

#41658 Nov 30, 2013
Patriot AKA Bozo wrote:
<quoted text>
For your information; Per capita incomes:
1 Luxembourg 111,240 (Christian Social people's party)
2 Norway 94,353 (Socialist)
3 Switzerland 64,015 (Socialist)
4 Ireland 63,185 (Independant -?)
5 Denmark 62,332 (Socialist)
6 Iceland 52,557 (Socialist)
7 Netherlands 52,321 (Socialist)
8 Sweden 52,057 (Socialist)
9 Finland 51,062 (Socialist)
10 Austria 49,900 (Socialist)
11 Australia 47,498 (Socialist)
12 United States 46,716 (NOT SOCIALIST!!!!)
First those figures are wrong. The currency translation was grossly inaccurate. It was debunked years ago. Those US figures include 14 million poor illegal aliens. You fail.
Cut n Paste

Minneapolis, MN

#41659 Nov 30, 2013
Fair Game wrote:
<quoted text>
And why is the Arctic weather system becoming unstable and dumping cold air over the top of the northern hemisphere?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =ZYaubXBfVqoXX
Because, just as computer model(s) predicted, when an additional 50 molecules of CO2 becomes part of 1million molecules of air the climate gets really disrupted.

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