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There are 64308 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39167 Sep 14, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
From the weather channel:
It will take climate scientists many months to complete studies into whether man-made global warming made the Boulder flood more likely to occur, but the amount by which this event has exceeded past events suggests that man-made warming may have played some role by making the event worse than it otherwise would have been.
Considering that this flood event occurred in the backyard of some of the top climate researchers in the world, it is likely that this event will be closely researched. Boulder is home to several major weather and climate research institutions, including the National Center for Atmospheric Research and the Earth System Research Laboratory, both of which were forced to close due to flooding.
http://www.weather.com/news/science/environme...
True. Thanks for the link.

You saved me a search ;-)
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39168 Sep 14, 2013
mememine69 wrote:
<quoted text>
How do YOU as a believer get away with saying a CO2 crisis WILL happen when science has NEVER said or agreed it WILL happen, only "could" and "possibly" and "likely" and..........never "will be"?
We have no problem with you believers saying the truth; that a CO2 crisis only "could" happen. Fair enough?
I wrote a detailed reply to you last. Where's your response to it? You are denying my reply! How do you expect to get away with being such a nonresponsive poster?

Good grief!
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39169 Sep 14, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>
I wrote a detailed reply to you last. Where's your response to it? You are denying my reply! How do you expect to get away with being such a nonresponsive poster?
Good grief!
Don't expect a reply from a robot.

Or maybe he's a "climate zombie". Like his avatar.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39170 Sep 14, 2013
NobodyorLess wrote:
<quoted text>So basically you're saying that no one knows.
Colo. floods worst since 1894
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/...
If it happened in 1894, it's not caused by Glowbull warming.
If it happened in 1013, that could have been Glowbull warming.
While any network news usually gets things right, they like to sensationalize/sell and do a really good job of covering bears falling from trees and royal babies falling from the womb.

"Further afield, folks at the Cooperative Institute for Meteorological Satellite Studies at the University of Wisconsin-Madison have been poring over satellite images and other data to try to make sense of the waterlogged chaos. Their startling conclusion:“This event could be classified as a 500- to 1000-year event.”"

Or you could try NOAA: http://hdsc.nws.noaa.gov/hdsc/pfds/pfds_map_c...

Haven't seen any other reference to 1894; maybe they meant 1976? Transposed/wrong numbers. Like Himalayan glacier melt typos?

But, there's these:
The Big Thompson flood of 1976 was considered between a 500-year and 1,000-year event. The disaster between Estes Park and Loveland killed 145 people and caused $41 million in damage after dumping 12 inches of rain in three hours.

Boulder has set a record for its wettest 24-hour period. Ever.

Prior to Wednesday, the single wettest day on record was July 31, 1919, when 4.80 inches of rain were recorded, according to Bob Henson, a science writer at the National Center for Atmospheric Research.

Additionally, the last three days of rain are more than Boulder has experienced in any month on record.

Since the rain kicked in late Monday afternoon, Boulder has officially recorded at least 9.61 inches of rain, topping the 9.59 inches recorded in the entire month of May 1995.

This is also by far the rainiest September ever for the city.

"Keeping in mind that Boulder records are a little bit spotty in places, but this is an extreme event for any month. But for the month of September, the heaviest rainfall (previously) was 3.05 inches, and that was Sept. 4, 1901," Henson said.

"So we may have doubled that record, and no other September day has received more than three inches. This is a one-day record (for any month)."

In fact, Boulder's one-day record has not just been broken; it has been shattered. After the 4.80 inch reading in 1919, all runners-up rounding out the Top 10 for a 24-hour-period are readings of 3.6 inches or less. Also, all of those feel between April and early August.

So both in totals and timing, Henson said, "This is an event that really stands apart."

Again, bottom line, a RECORD event.
LessHypeMoreFact

Etobicoke, Canada

#39171 Sep 14, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>CORRECTION: not Gulf but the Pacific Ocean..
See the sat loop;
http://www.weather.com/news/science/environme...
Signs point to the tropical Pacific being the source of the abundant moisture, according to the University of Wisconsin’s Cooperative Institute for Meteorological Satellite Studies. From there, the moisture plume was transported northeastward, over Mexico and into Texas, and then northward by upper level winds.
Thanks. That is interesting. Not even an 'atmospheric river' but maybe a stationary low?
B as in B S as in S

Eden Prairie, MN

#39172 Sep 15, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
From the weather channel:
It will take climate scientists many months to complete studies into whether man-made global warming made the Boulder flood more likely to occur, but the amount by which this event has exceeded past events suggests that man-made warming may have played some role by making the event worse than it otherwise would have been.
Considering that this flood event occurred in the backyard of some of the top climate researchers in the world, it is likely that this event will be closely researched. Boulder is home to several major weather and climate research institutions, including the National Center for Atmospheric Research and the Earth System Research Laboratory, both of which were forced to close due to flooding.
http://www.weather.com/news/science/environme...
CMs forecasted drought yet it is likely that researchers will connect Anthropogenic CO2 as contributory to this weather (event)?
Do 97% of Climate Scientisst agree with that logic?

“EnvironMENTAList ”

Since: Feb 07

Near Detroit

#39173 Sep 15, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>
I wrote a detailed reply to you last. Where's your response to it? You are denying my reply! How do you expect to get away with being such a nonresponsive poster?
Good grief!
I read it and it didn't answer the question of how is it that your opinion that it WILL happen is more credible than that of the scientist's who have never said what YOU said; that a crisis WILL happen.
Scientists would have doomed children as well and this is about the life or death of the planet and if this really were a crisis the lab coats would have given us a real warning for a real crisis.
As long as you accept "maybe" as "will be" it shows who the educated planet lovers really are.
All denial will end when science agrees it will actually happen, not just possibly happen.
gcaveman1

Laurel, MS

#39174 Sep 15, 2013
B as in B S as in S wrote:
<quoted text>
CMs forecasted drought yet it is likely that researchers will connect Anthropogenic CO2 as contributory to this weather (event)?
Do 97% of Climate Scientisst agree with that logic?
Colorado has been in a drought. I guess the models were right.

Why don't you develop a model that can predict the weather on September 15th, 2020?

"Do 97% of Climate Scientisst agree with that logic?" Look it up, dear.
Mothra

United States

#39175 Sep 15, 2013
OzRitz wrote:
From the weather channel:
It will take climate scientists many months to complete studies into whether man-made global warming made the Boulder flood more likely to occur, but the amount by which this event has exceeded past events suggests that man-made warming may have played some role by making the event worse than it otherwise would have been.
Considering that this flood event occurred in the backyard of some of the top climate researchers in the world, it is likely that this event will be closely researched. Boulder is home to several major weather and climate research institutions, including the National Center for Atmospheric Research and the Earth System Research Laboratory, both of which were forced to close due to flooding.
http://www.weather.com/news/science/environme...
This would be news if the didn't attribute the flooding to global warming.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39176 Sep 15, 2013
mememine69 wrote:
<quoted text> I read it and it didn't answer the question of how is it that your opinion that it WILL happen is more credible than that of the scientist's who have never said what YOU said; that a crisis WILL happen.
Scientists would have doomed children as well and this is about the life or death of the planet and if this really were a crisis the lab coats would have given us a real warning for a real crisis.
As long as you accept "maybe" as "will be" it shows who the educated planet lovers really are.
All denial will end when science agrees it will actually happen, not just possibly happen.
Read it again. Your mind is not trained on science. It is obvious.

Good luck.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39177 Sep 15, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
This would be news if the didn't attribute the flooding to global warming.
There you go again.

Something the matter, poor troll?
milly

Thorntown, IN

#39178 Sep 15, 2013
Me too!
Mothra

United States

#39179 Sep 15, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>There you go again.
Something the matter, poor troll?
Do you have a comprehension problem, or are you unable to resist being a jackass?

True or False:
Global warming proponents would make more 'news' by proclaiming a weather event wasn't due to global warming.

Think hard -- I know that's painful for you.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39180 Sep 15, 2013
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
This would be news if the didn't attribute the flooding to global warming.
Hahahaha what's the problem?[its language sucks]
Mothra wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you have a comprehension problem, or are you unable to resist being a jackass?
True or False:
Global warming proponents would make more 'news' by proclaiming a weather event wasn't due to global warming.
Think hard -- I know that's painful for you.
hahaha the troll does not comprehend its problem.[its language sucks]

How funny!

It must be hard to be a denier plus a troll, LOL.
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39181 Sep 15, 2013
milly wrote:
Me too!
Thanks for your support.
litesong

Snohomish, WA

#39182 Sep 15, 2013
motheaten wrote:
Think hard -- I know that's painful for you.
Know you DIDN'T think painfully hard, NOT getting your science & mathematics degrees. Know you DIDN'T think painfully hard, NOT taking science, chemistry, astronomy, physics, algebra, & pre-calc in your poorly earned hi skule DEE-plooomaa.
litesong

Snohomish, WA

#39183 Sep 15, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
There you go again.
Don't start channeling Ronny Reagan!
SpaceBlues

Houston, TX

#39184 Sep 15, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
Don't start channeling Ronny Reagan!
LOL.

I feel my freedom, besides the troll has possibly dementia like Reagan.
JBH

Surrey, Canada

#39185 Sep 15, 2013
The world is looking at what is going on with this Obama talking about chemical weapons again.
The Internationals tend to feel awe as what would come from US by portraying and labeling others again?
If they are not North Korea, Iran, or Axis-of-evil, who will be those again?
Obama has demonstrated distasteful and bad results everywhere, in views and activation of dramatic incidental situations, from Libya and now to Syria.
Now, Obama's saying to strike Syria based on chemical weapons issue makes the whole world nervous.
Obama looks like another big terror on the planet, to create drama horror in the pursuance of destruction of chemical weapons in Syria, like Iraq horror again.
Obama is exhibiting the Bush molded puppet by doing the same old Bush psycho drama by converting Iraq to Syria of using the same scheme of chemical weapons matter..
The whole world is witnessing another psycho horror Obama at work.
Obama is doing and acting as the Bush clone robot in trying to make another bad drama of the same old thing on chemical weapons about Iraq from the previous psycho Bush, by checking to chemical weapons in pursuit for destroying them in Syria, as If is another Iraq and Bush drama.
But, every US pursuit of chemical weapons has suffered large damages, and only can be viewed as the psycho drama of never-ending chemical weapons kind cycle drum. As of those days, to beat up the drum of striking that said Iraq will strike the world with silos of WMD (but where were any long range Iraq missiles to fire silos first), that US must destroy those Iraq WMD.
That is the terror drama going on and on from US , that the whole world is seeing again.
Yet, it goes on and on for the psycho drum of drama on chemical weapons again.
But, Middle East had not been proven in the usage of chemical weapons by killing a lot of people.
US bombs and missiles had killed at least few hundreds of thousands people instead in the ME region, in the pursuance of chemical weapons issue, while ending up finding none of WMD in Iraq.
US gets many big damages today (including getting a bad name) in the checking and pursuit of attempting to destroy the WMD in Iraq, as it is doing the same thing to Syria now, like a repeated cycle.
As alike to Iraq case, there will be high doubts that US would end up with any good results about doing the same thing to Syria.
Obama has dug himself a big hole, by his exposition of dramatic psycho terror, by dong Bush drama deal.
Obama could not provide solid proof and prove concretely that ASSAD USED SARIN GAS ON THE 8/21 INCIDENT, as this may be another same Bush drama lie to strike Syria.
US does have a lot of psycho dramas---IT IS troublesome for Obama if he were to use ground troops, when Assad would not let US in to check, that people will be watching the tense drama again, like Iraq case.
Obama's policies are as Bush clone molded polices, as nothing is new but the drama kind of terror again.
Libya also had chemical weapons but hardly used them, yet it said it had destroyed them--the point is that chemical weapons had not been used much and killed much in recent times, but the missiles and bombs had killed lots instead, especially in the matters of chasing chemical weapons.
From what Obama had done so far in every policy, US already suffers damage in Libya in the Obama policy as US embassy was hit while there was another hit to Libya foreign ministry building on another 9/11, just a few days ago. Libya is still impregnated with lots of volatility of terror rebels like those in Syria,that could uprise to explode any time against US as well as the current Libya government.
US policies in the pursuit of chemical weapons ended up nothing good as all horrors and bad dramas, while this same thing again to Syria is trying to do it again by Obama, as if US has never learned by repeatedly doing the same thing, to want to have to take MORE DAMAGES--AND THAT is the way of Obama's in making terror dramas for getting more damages.
Mothra

United States

#39186 Sep 15, 2013
litesong wrote:
<quoted text>
<sigh>

Guess you need more reminders.

Take your meds... every day.

How to Remember to Take Medication
http://www.wikihow.com/Remember-to-Take-Medic...

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