Once slow-moving threat, global warmi...

Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt...

There are 60011 comments on the Newsday story from Dec 14, 2008, titled Once slow-moving threat, global warming speeds up, leaving litt.... In it, Newsday reports that:

When Bill Clinton took office in 1993, global warming was a slow-moving environmental problem that was easy to ignore.

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gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35530 May 4, 2013
Two of the denier's darlings are a little more reasonable than the majority of deniers.

http://blogs.nicholas.duke.edu/thegreengrok/h...

It's possible that even some Republicans are finding it to be politically expedient to embrace reason instead of dogma.
litesong

Mountlake Terrace, WA

#35531 May 4, 2013
me me me getting mine in the 69 position wrote:
You fear mongers don't love the planet, you hate humanity.....
That's why conservative, business & re-pubic-lick-un PEE-R propaganda opposed the life saving benefits of clean air technology in the 70's, 80's, 90's & even today. re-pubic-lick-uns stink (some... even quite a few are steenking)!
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35532 May 4, 2013
Dont drink the koolaid wrote:
<quoted text> OK...? What "Truth" is used to back up Scientific opinion?
Didn't yo momma tell you?

Look it up, dear.
litesong

Mountlake Terrace, WA

#35533 May 4, 2013
me me me getting mine in the 69 position wrote:
..... when climate change crisis is proven in court........
toxic topix AGW deniers can't prove that their cube heads fit in a square root.
litesong

Mountlake Terrace, WA

#35534 May 4, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
It's possible that even some Republicans are finding it to be politically expedient to embrace reason instead of dogma.
But all re-pubic-lick-uns can only lick pubics.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35535 May 4, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
Wise up? Use corn ethanol to starve the poor. Use solar and wind with massive tax subsidies and borrowing. Use credit to mitigate climate change because it's unaffordable as well as impossible.
Massive tax subsidies for fossil fuels dwarf any for green energy, at least in the US.

Green tech is nice and very helpful, but there's also conservation and higher efficiency, which "greens" have been promoting for decades and deniers have denigrated for just as long.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35536 May 4, 2013
mememine69 wrote:
<quoted text>Death and asteroid hits don't drive home the point enough of what "inevitable" is?
You fear mongers don't love the planet, you hate humanity and your miserable lives and just want to drag the rest of us down with you. Have fun while we laugh and spread love for the planet, not silly fear.
No, fool, I asked that you give us some other things that are immutable, unchangeable, inevitable.

The two points I concede are, as yet, beyond our control. But, in the scope of human endeavor, any future result can be altered by action now, be it good or bad.
gcaveman1

Bay Springs, MS

#35537 May 4, 2013
mememine69 wrote:
<quoted text>Would you be willing to be subjected to criminal charges of uttering CO2 death threats to our children when climate change crisis is proven in court to be the exaggeration that it is?
What else do you do for fun besides fear mongering kids; torture frogs, pull fire alarms, rubber neck car accidents, tell on your sister....?
Why don't you bring those charges against whomever in a court of law now if you think you have a case?

Otherwise, why don't you shut the fuggup?
litesong

Mountlake Terrace, WA

#35538 May 4, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
Why are the deniers like mememe certifiable nuts?
mememine69 is really 'me me me getting mine in the 69 position' & it contracted the same thing as Karen in 'Out of Africa', spreading it to all the toxic topix AGW deniers.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#35539 May 4, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
Massive tax subsidies for fossil fuels dwarf any for green energy, at least in the US.
Fossil fuel users pay far more in taxes than any supposed subsidy. Why don't you cite one of your imagined fossil fuel tax subsidies? Do you think all the money earned by producing fossil fuels belongs to the government?

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gcaveman1 wrote:
Green tech is nice and very helpful, but there's also conservation and higher efficiency, which "greens" have been promoting for decades and deniers have denigrated for just as long.
Green energy doesn't work, that's why the government has to pay people to use it.
litesong

Mountlake Terrace, WA

#35540 May 4, 2013
gcaveman1 wrote:
Why don't you bring those charges against whomever in a court of law now if you think you have a case?
'me me me getting mine in the 69 position' is too busy getting its in the 69 position.
Retired Farmer

Crofton, KY

#35541 May 4, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Fossil fuel users pay far more in taxes than any supposed subsidy. Why don't you cite one of your imagined fossil fuel tax subsidies? Do you think all the money earned by producing fossil fuels belongs to the government?
.
<quoted text>Green energy doesn't work, that's why the government has to pay people to use it.
I suppose that if you had been around in the 1860s you would have said, "Railroads don't work, that's why the government has to subsidize building them."

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#35542 May 4, 2013
Retired Farmer wrote:
I suppose that if you had been around in the 1860s you would have said, "Railroads don't work, that's why the government has to subsidize building them."
Railroads have been experimentally tested, climate change mitigation hasn't. See the difference?
SpaceBlues

United States

#35543 May 4, 2013
b_gone has no proof for its lies .. that span five years and 40,880 posts.
Dont drink the koolaid

Eden Prairie, MN

#35544 May 4, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
<quoted text>
Dr. Hansen does not distort but you do here.
Blessed are the keepers of the faith.
Retired Farmer

Crofton, KY

#35545 May 4, 2013
Brian_G wrote:
<quoted text>Railroads have been experimentally tested, climate change mitigation hasn't. See the difference?
I was referring to your statement, "Green energy doesn't work, that's why the government has to pay people to use it."

Today's green energy technology has been tested and proven not only experimentally but in actual use at least as much and probably more than railroads were in 1850 when Congress chartered the Illinois Central, the prototype land grant subsidized railroad in the U.S.A.

One of the reasons that the government subsidized building of the transcontinental railroad in the 1860s because private investors could not be convinced that it would ever make a profit in part because the IC did not make one in its early years.
SpaceBlues

United States

#35546 May 4, 2013
Dont drink the koolaid wrote:
<quoted text>
Blessed are the keepers of the faith.
Another distortion by you. You are corrupt to the core!
SpaceBlues

United States

#35547 May 4, 2013
b_gone is all nothing but corrupt.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#35548 May 4, 2013
Retired Farmer wrote:
I was referring to your statement, "Green energy doesn't work, that's why the government has to pay people to use it." Today's green energy technology has been tested and proven not only experimentally but in actual use at least as much and probably more than railroads were in 1850 when Congress chartered the Illinois Central, the prototype land grant subsidized railroad in the U.S.A. One of the reasons that the government subsidized building of the transcontinental railroad in the 1860s because private investors could not be convinced that it would ever make a profit in part because the IC did not make one in its early years.
The government granted land, not cash. Green energy is nothing like the railroads which use fossil fuel.

“I Luv Carbon Dioxide”

Since: Dec 08

Home, sweet home.

#35549 May 4, 2013
SpaceBlues wrote:
b_gone is all nothing but corrupt.
I make my arguments without insulting other posters; ad hominem arguments are fallacies. Learn to deal with reason; you'll learn more.

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