ACLU Criticizes Arizona for Denying Driver's Licenses to Deferred Action Recipients

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Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer's decision to deny driver's licenses to young undocumented immigrants who qualify for Deferred Action has drawn criticism from the ACLU, which says the move shows a failure to grasp the subtleties of immigration law.

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Vet wrote:
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Actually, you put a half brotha in the White House who then failed.
Didn't fail me, chief. My oil and gas stock is thru the roof, my gold bullion tripled in value, my business (flipping foreclosed home) is doing boffo, and I hired 5 new employees (illegal coz those chingons work harder mules and you don't have to pay em much). Life is good for me, chief.

When given lemons, you make lemonade. What you don't do is sit around with your thumb up your arse and wait for the president to make a job for you.
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All Communist Lovers United needs to STFU
The ACLU defends the US Constitution. It's very obvious that you have no real understanding of the US Constitution.
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Actually, you put a half brotha in the White House who then failed.
For a person who loves to go around correcting other peoples sentences you sure do a good job of screwing up your own sentences. Your sentence has a dangling modifier. It's a rather vague & ambiguous sentence that allows the reader to muster up an endless array of scenarios. So Mija, please complete your ESL sentence and share with us how did Obama fail you?

Did Obama not act redneck enough?

Did he not further oppress those you hate?

Come on Mija, you can do it. I

LOL!!!
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I don't need a job but the 23 million who don't have one will voice their displeasure soon. The 8.3 percent unemployment rate is in acceptable and unsustainable. The near 16 trillion debt is unsustainable. Don't you care about your fellow Americans who are suffering?
For a person who advocates smaller & less intrusive government, you sure do a good job of advocating policy that's oxymoronic. Since you don't need a job but care so much for your fellow unemployed American, why don't you do what really needs to be done, go stimulate the US economy with your own checkbook.

Employ an unemployed American. Otherwise you need to shut your mouth and with haste.

Putting all the burden on the current president demonstrates a lack of intelligence on your behalf considering the fact that your own republican party has stone walled Obama's job creation bill not to mention that republicans were more than happy to raise the national debt ceiling along with concurring with Obama on his bailout package. But you want to blame Obama for it all.

You need to get educated Mija, you're looking rather "ignorant" right now.
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who cares what the America Communist Labor Union Thinks
So you don't care about establishments that defend the US Constitution & peoples civil liberties? Please Chuck, get an education. The UCLU is not a communist labor union.
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Who cares, they may have a reprieve from deportation, but bottom-line they technically are still here illegally and should not be gifted with the same rights of which legals citizens are privy.
Not all legal citizens can get these rights e.g. drivers license & other public benefits. They're not constitutional rights inclusive to only legal citizens but rather privileges. Privileges can be extended to all persons regardless of immigration status race, creed or national origin per the 14th's "equal protection of the law" clause and the 10th amendment "states rights" clause.

To support my claim, some states are granting extensions of these privileges to these deferred action recipients e.g. California & New York. Some States are not e.g. Arizona & Nebraska.
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S-N-A-F-U wrote:
A LITTLE BACKGROUND ON THE "VENERATED" ACLU.....
"Roger Baldwin, the first director of the ACLU, was also a communist. He explains in his book, Liberty Under the Soviets, "I joined. I don’t regret being a part of the Communist tactic, which increased the effectiveness of a good cause. I knew what I was doing. I was not an innocent liberal. I wanted what the Communists wanted…” Roger Baldwin - Founded the ACLU in 1920. Several crucial leaders of the ACLU were members of the Communist Party. Earl Browder, then General Secretary of the Communist Party, said the ACLU functioned as "a transmission belt" for the party. Baldwin also stated “We are for SOCIALISM, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the state itself... We seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and the SOLE CONTROL of those who produce wealth. COMMUNISM is the goal.”
“I have been to Europe several times, mostly in connection with international radical activities…and have traveled in the United States to areas of conflict over workers rights to strike and organize. My chief aversion is the system of greed, private profit, privilege and violence which makes up the control of the world today, and which has brought it to the tragic crisis of unprecedented hunger and unemployment…Therefore, I am for Socialism, disarmament and ultimately, for the abolishing of the State itself…I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal”.”
“Do steer away from making it look like a Socialist enterprise…We want also to look like patriots in everything we do. We want to get a good lot of flags, talk a good deal about the Constitution and what our forefathers wanted to make of this country, and to show that we are really the folks that really stand for the spirit of our institutions.”-Baldwin’s advice in 1917 to Louis Lochner of the socialist People’s Council in Minnesota.
I must be fair and let you know that Roger Baldwin supposedly became disenchanted with socialism and removed the communist members from the board of the ACLU. But after hearing quotes like the one above, it is hard to trust that he truly did this. Perhaps he just took his own advice to “steer away from making it look like a Socialist enterprise.”
"I am for socialism, disarmament, and ultimately for abolishing the State itself as an instrument of violence and compulsion. I seek the social ownership of property, the abolition of the propertied class, and sole control of those who produce wealth. Communism is the goal."
Quoted in the National Federation for Decency Journal, September 1988. Page 9.
On January 17, 1931,
The Special House (of Representatives) Committee to Investigate Communist Activities in the United States issued a report which stated the following:
“The American Civil Liberties Union is closely affiliated with the communist movement in the United States, and fully 90% of its efforts are on behalf of Communists who have come into conflict with the law. It claims to stand for free speech, free press, and free assembly; but it is quite apparent that the main function of the ACLU is to attempt to protect the communists in their advocacy of force and violence to overthrow the Government, replacing the American flag with a red flag and erecting a Soviet Government in place of the republican form of government guaranteed to each State by the Federal Constitution…Roger N. Baldwin, its guiding spirit, makes no attempt to hide his friendship for the communists and their principles.”
(source: http://dianedew.com/aclu.htm )
More hyperbole from an author who's like the rest of ignorant America that doesn't understand the US constitution.
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Communism is Tyranny......
We don't need a Communist front group defending the Constitution,(that in it's self is a classic Oxymoron) That's why we have courts.....'Nuff said!
The ACLU is using the courts to defend the US constitution. How did you miss that?
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Without the courage and fortitude of the ACLU, posts like this would be censored by the government. Please give generously to them as I do.
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Eloquently stated!!!
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Anything that serves to degrade and devalue
America is backed by the freaks at the ACLU. There just a bunch of self important obama style "progressives". Ignore them. They NEVER have America's best interests at heart.
It's not in the best interest of Americans to oppress and trample on the rights & liberties of a "protected class of people".

A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi.
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Maharishi Rico Yogi wrote:
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A nation's greatness is measured by how it treats its weakest members." ~ Mahatma Ghandi.
Trouble is, the people spoken of here (illegal aliens) are *not* members at all. They are owed deportation and nothing more.
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I thought Jan Bruja was a tribal chief. Uglier than Geronimo and drinks twice as much, and runs Arizona like it's a personal fiefdom.
You must be el Chingon Pendejo.
My parents were from Mexico and I was born in the USA. First and foremost I am 100% American and millions of others like me will never support the illegal invasion of our country. We will stand united against this illegal invasion and the agencies that support it. STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION NOW!!!!!!!
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Trouble is, the people spoken of here (illegal aliens) are *not* members at all. They are owed deportation and nothing more.
The infraction of unlawful entry without inspection has no mandate for deportation. Moreover, the USA is not about "membership". This is not Club Med.

Illegal aliens in fact do have rights, liberties and limited protections.

False Claim: Undocumented immigrants have no legal rights.

Truth: Undocumented immigrants DO have legal rights under the U.S. Constitution, as well as many federal statutes. As far back as 1896, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that:

Wong Wing v. U.S., 163 U.S. 228 (1896) The 14th Amendment to the Constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens.

Detention or temporary confinement, as part of the means necessary to give effect to the exclusion or expulsion of Chinese aliens is valid.
The United States can forbid aliens from coming within their borders, and expel them from their territory, and can devolve the power and duty of identifying and arresting such persons upon executive or subordinate officials, but when Congress sees fit to further promote such a policy by subjecting the persons of such aliens to infamous punishment at hard labor, or by confiscating their property, such legislation, to be valid, must provide for a judicial trial to establish the guilt of the accused.
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"The fourteenth amendment to the constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens. It says:'Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.' These provisions are universal in their application to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or nationality; and the equal protection of the laws is a pledge of the protection of equal laws."

All persons in the U.S., therefore, have constitutional rights. Among these are the right to equal protection of the law and the right to due process.

Also, undocumented persons have a constitutional right under the Fourth Amendment to deny any officer from entering their residence without consent, absent a search warrant.

Further, ALL CHILDREN, regardless of their immigration status, are entitled to free public education, as required under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Plyer v. Doe 457 U.S. 202 (1982)

Additionally, under federal law publicly funded hospitals must provide emergency medical services to all patients, regardless of their immigration status. Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1986 (EMTALA)

Moreover, under federal law, a person may recover money damages for loss of property, personal injury or death where damages occurred as a result of the "negligent or wrongful act or omission of any employee of the Government while acting within the scope of his office or employment, under circumstances where the United States, if a private person, would be liable to the claimant in accordance with the law of the place where the act or omission occurred."

These are just a few of the rights that our constitution and federal laws grant to all persons living in the U.S. These rights are intended to protect all U.S. residents from discrimination and arbitrary government action. These rights are especially critical in times where hatred based on race, color, and national origin is on the rise.
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You must be el Chingon Pendejo.
My parents were from Mexico and I was born in the USA. First and foremost I am 100% American and millions of others like me will never support the illegal invasion of our country. We will stand united against this illegal invasion and the agencies that support it. STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION NOW!!!!!!!
So you're an anchor baby calling for the deportation of yourself because that's exactly what your so called buddies, the radical anti-illegals around here want to do to people like you.

That's so funny.
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More pap from maharishi McRico.

We owe them a trial and a trip home.
Maharishi Rico Yogi wrote:
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The infraction of unlawful entry without inspection has no mandate for deportation. Moreover, the USA is not about "membership". This is not Club Med.
Illegal aliens in fact do have rights, liberties and limited protections.
False Claim: Undocumented immigrants have no legal rights.
Truth: Undocumented immigrants DO have legal rights under the U.S. Constitution, as well as many federal statutes. As far back as 1896, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that:
Wong Wing v. U.S., 163 U.S. 228 (1896) The 14th Amendment to the Constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens.
Detention or temporary confinement, as part of the means necessary to give effect to the exclusion or expulsion of Chinese aliens is valid.
The United States can forbid aliens from coming within their borders, and expel them from their territory, and can devolve the power and duty of identifying and arresting such persons upon executive or subordinate officials, but when Congress sees fit to further promote such a policy by subjecting the persons of such aliens to infamous punishment at hard labor, or by confiscating their property, such legislation, to be valid, must provide for a judicial trial to establish the guilt of the accused.
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"The fourteenth amendment to the constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens. It says:'Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.' These provisions are universal in their application to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or nationality; and the equal protection of the laws is a pledge of the protection of equal laws."
All persons in the U.S., therefore, have constitutional rights. Among these are the right to equal protection of the law and the right to due process.
Also, undocumented persons have a constitutional right under the Fourth Amendment to deny any officer from entering their residence without consent, absent a search warrant.
Further, ALL CHILDREN, regardless of their immigration status, are entitled to free public education, as required under the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment. Plyer v. Doe 457 U.S. 202 (1982)
Additionally, under federal law publicly funded hospitals must provide emergency medical services to all patients, regardless of their immigration status. Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act of 1986 (EMTALA)
Moreover, under federal law, a person may recover money damages for loss of property, personal injury or death where damages occurred as a result of the "negligent or wrongful act or omission of any employee of the Government while acting within the scope of his office or employment, under circumstances where the United States, if a private person, would be liable to the claimant in accordance with the law of the place where the act or omission occurred."
These are just a few of the rights that our constitution and federal laws grant to all persons living in the U.S. These rights are intended to protect all U.S. residents from discrimination and arbitrary government action. These rights are especially critical in times where hatred based on race, color, and national origin is on the rise.
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You must be el Chingon Pendejo.
My parents were from Mexico and I was born in the USA. First and foremost I am 100% American and millions of others like me will never support the illegal invasion of our country. We will stand united against this illegal invasion and the agencies that support it. STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION NOW!!!!!!!
Impersonating an Hispanic is a crime. Buey gabacho.
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So you're an anchor baby calling for the deportation of yourself because that's exactly what your so called buddies, the radical anti-illegals around here want to do to people like you.
That's so funny.
The only people we want to get rid off are the illegal invaders like you. My parents came here legally and with money so they were not a burden on the American tax payer . You say "radical anti-illegal".
I say " citizens of the country trying to protect against the illegal invasion of the country. You don't fool anyone Yogi you try to make it a Latino against Anglo issue but we all know that isn't the case. If you are illegal in this country you have no right to be here. You are breaking the law and are not welcome here.
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El Chingo wrote:
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Impersonating an Hispanic is a crime. Buey gabacho.
I would rather be called a Gabacho then a Mexican anytime of the day.
No one wants to deport me it's the illegal invaders that we all want deported. You know the ones, the ones that demand free schools, free medical, free food, free housing and so many other freebees.
I am gabacho but not buey just like millions more in this country.
I have many Anglo, Black and Latino friends that will never support the illegal invasion of our country. You Chingon Mamon are a perfect examle of the crap we don't want or need here. If you people love your Lindo Mexico so much why don't you leave? LOL LOL Lindo Mexico what a crap hole. STOP ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION NOW!!!!!!

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