Groups sue to block Arkansas' 12-week abortion ban

Apr 16, 2013 | Posted by: Mr_Bill | Full story: www.seattlepi.com

A pair of advocacy groups went to federal court Tuesday claiming that Arkansas' legislators violated the constitutional rights of two doctors, and their potential patients, by banning nearly all abortions beginning in the 12th week of pregnancy.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas and the Center for Reproductive Rights, which filed the suit on behalf of Dr. Louis Jerry Edwards and Dr. Tom Tvedten, who provide abortions at a Little Rock clinic, say Arkansas' ban clearly contradicts the standard of viability established by the U.S. Supreme Court's landmark Roe v. Wade decision.

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zef

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Apr 20, 2013
 
Morgana 9 wrote:
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BS.
choice
n:
1.
an act or instance of choosing; selection: Her choice of a computer was made after months of research. His parents were not happy with his choice of friends.
2.
the right, power, or opportunity to choose; option: The child had no choice about going to school.
3.
the person or thing chosen or eligible to be chosen: This book is my choice. He is one of many choices for the award.
4.
an alternative: There is another choice.
5.
an abundance or variety from which to choose: a wide choice of candidates.
Choice is a mental process. Mental processes cannot be controlled by external forces. You simply cannot prevent anyone from choosing anything. Only obtaining the options that we choose can be controlled, which should not be confused with the mental process of making those choices. Abortion is an option not a choice. The decision to obtain an abortion is a choice, not an option. For example, say I walk into an ice cream parlor and choose vanilla ice cream. The proprietor than informs me that they are out of vanilla ice cream. Did the proprietor prevent me from choosing vanilla ice cream, or making the choice to have vanilla ice cream? No, the proprietor did not prevent me from choosing vanilla ice cream, or making the choice to have vanilla ice cream. I was only prevented from obtaining the option of the vanilla ice cream that I chose. No one can prevent anyone from making any choice, because choice is a mental process, and metal processes cannot be controlled by external forces. Consumer behavior dynamically incorporates both conscious and unconscious mental processes to represent how consumers make decisions in the context of their daily lives. Mental processes or mental functions are terms often used interchangeably to mean such functions or processes as perception, introspection, memory, creativity, choice, imagination, idea, belief, reasoning, volition, and emotion, in other words, all the things that we can do with our mind. In science, cognition is a group of mental processes that includes attention, memory, producing and understanding language, learning, reasoning, problem solving, and decision making.
A specific instance of engaging in a cognitive process is a mental event. The event of perceiving something is, of course, different from the entire process, or capacity of perception—one's ability to perceive things. In other words, an instance of perceiving is different from the ability that makes those instances possible.
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There's the rub!!! The language says it all!! Women "owe" him.
In fact, the 14th Amendment specifically prohibits abortion because the baby being aborted is being denied equal protection and due process of law by having "his" most important of all rights - "his" right to life - being unlawfully taken from "him".
14th amendment:

"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

Please note the word 'born'. This does not apply to the unborn fetus. Are you brain damaged or just fundamentalist?(ok, technically the same)
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IRYW wrote:
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14th amendment:
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Please note the word 'born'. This does not apply to the unborn fetus. Are you brain damaged or just fundamentalist?(ok, technically the same)
The term born, refers to persons born in the us, as opposed to those born elsewhere, as being citizens. What's your point?

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IRYW wrote:
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14th amendment:
"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Please note the word 'born'. This does not apply to the unborn fetus. Are you brain damaged or just fundamentalist?(ok, technically the same)
I agree with you.

I was quoting a previous poster and HIS use of "him" & "his".
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zef wrote:
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The term born, refers to persons born in the us, as opposed to those born elsewhere, as being citizens. What's your point?
Born means born. Out of the womb. The fetus is not born.
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I agree with you.
I was quoting a previous poster and HIS use of "him" & "his".
Sorry, missed that. The hazard of not reading the previous 10,000 posts.......

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Sorry, missed that. The hazard of not reading the previous 10,000 posts.......
Not a problem!

I understand and appreciate your willingness to open a can of whoopass on meddlesome right wing busy bodys!
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Not a problem!
I understand and appreciate your willingness to open a can of whoopass on meddlesome right wing busy bodys!
POP! WHACK!:-)

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