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curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23919 Mar 18, 2013
Is martial Law the goal?


Daniel Detwiler
teapartyorg.ning.com
February 1, 2013

With everything happening to this country of ours it is getting harder and harder to maintain a cool head and not jump to conclusions but if we sit back and view the last four years as well as what’s happening now an image is starting to appear of what might possibly be our future.

During President Obama’s first term he laid the ground work. President Obama issued over 144 executive orders, many dealing with martial law. As the Supreme Court already opinioned when looking at President Lincolns use of martial law,“Martial law … destroys every guarantee of the Constitution.”. This means when martial law is declared we as Americans have no rights at all.

During President Obama’s first term he wrote Executive Orders granting the government the power to take over all communications media, electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. He also wrote an Executive Order where the government can take over all modes of transportation and control of the highways and sea ports. That means Obama can confiscate your horse, your donkeys, your bicycle or even your riding lawn mower. All forms of transportation. Executive orders signed by Obama also include railroads, inland water ways, public storage facilities, airports and airplanes including commercial planes can all be taken over by the government.

Think that’s bad, well it gets worse, much worse.

Executive Orders have also been signed allowing the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision. To take over all health education and welfare functions. To allow the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate and establish new locations for populations, AND grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute Industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

If that doesn’t scare you then look at this. An Executive order has also been signed which allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit, and the flow of money in U.S. financial institutions in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when the president declares a state of emergency, Congress cannot review the action for six months.

Now why that last part that congress cannot review the action for six months? To understand why President Obama wanted that executive order lets look at what martial law is. Martial law is the suspension of civil authority and the imposition of military authority. When we say a region or country is “under martial law,” we mean to say that the military is in control of the area, that it acts as the police, as the courts, as the legislature. The president is the commander in chief of the military and as such in full control of the martial law. Seeing how the constitution is suspended during martial law and the President is in control the only ones able to stop martial law is the congress. In effect that Executive order that says Congress cannot review the action for six months in effect give the President full unchallenged control for six months.

A little tidbit to add to martial law here is that our constitution Article 1, Section 9 states,“The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.” The concept of the of Habeas Corpus is that a person may not be held by the government without a valid reason for being held. A writ means the government would have to provide a person to a court to show just reason for holding them. With the suspension of the writ the government can detain and hold a person indefinitely.
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23920 Mar 18, 2013
In a nut shell a President can declare martial law, would have six months of free reign to do as he pleases while rounding up any congressional opposition to his martial law and detaining them indefinitely and doing this totally legally.

In order for a president to declare martial law he must have a valid reason to do so. For that lets look at our present situation. Today we have a president whom has openly declared war on the second amendment to our constitution. This is causing a great deal of civil unrest in the nation. Being told that their actions are unconstitutional doesn’t slow the President down at all, in fact it emboldens him to push even harder. To top that off our President is also pushing us to the fiscal cliff of ruin. When asked about the out of control spending our President replies that we do not have a spending problem. Top that off with our government printing money as fast as possible as well as demanding unrestricted borrowing powers we can see we will be heading to a financial meltdown very soon. A financial meltdown coupled with civil unrest over constitutional violations would be the catalyst for open revolt and exactly what would be needed in order to openly declare martial law. Then we all are doomed.--------- Ok now for those believe that this will effect the wealthy & poor alike think again. The wealthy have moved their money to other places. Many have purchased large yacts. Those yatcs sailed out into international waters are not subject to martial law. some of the very riches folks have sold all of their property in the USA. they moved their Buisnesses & factories a long Time ago .
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23921 Mar 18, 2013
As the U.S. goes the world goes.....
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23922 Mar 18, 2013
It will happen. My suggestion is to buy guns, food, water and survival gear. It will last for years. Be prepared.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/mar/1...

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23923 Mar 18, 2013
You know what they say-
Most of what we worry about never happens.
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23924 Mar 18, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
You know what they say-
Most of what we worry about never happens.
And they also say prepare for the worst hope for the best. And the chances of economic collapse, social upheavel. civil unrest, Clatyclismic earth changes & Martial law are now way past the worry stage. The framers of the counstition worried about such things. Today those events are already beginning to happen they are a genuine concern.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23925 Mar 18, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
You know what they say-
Most of what we worry about never happens.
You know what they say-
The early bird gets the worm!
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23926 Mar 18, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
It will happen. My suggestion is to buy guns, food, water and survival gear. It will last for years. Be prepared.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2013/mar/1...
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Complete Nonsense And Suicide
Any talk about using physical force against the communist criminal thugs within our political system is complete nonsense and suicide. No doubt, Obama is purposely pushing patriotic Americans to a street fight, so you would be playing right into his hands and you will die or be imprisoned. We will loose America for sure. Pick up a gun and you’ll be labeled as a enemy combatant and visited by a Hell-Fire missile sent from above. Your anger toward these communist criminal thugs is righteous, yet misplaced. This cancer that has invaded our government has to be cut out with surgical precision by removing the communists one politician at a time in the voting booth beginning in your local community with the Dog Catcher, if need be. Just make sure the Dog Catcher is a God fearing, Constitution loving, patriot. This is where the real battle must begin. We cannot kill the entire host to get rid of the cancer and a street fight will obviously kill everything. You must take your anger and the fight to the voting booth.
You cannot let the traitorous liars within the media lie to you; that are voting process is so corrupted, it’s no use to vote, that was all by Obama’s design in order to make you feel like you have no choice but to pick up a gun and hit the streets. The only thing that will hit the streets will be your head after it’s blown off. Wise up and turn your anger toward the cure, we still have God and we still have the Constitution and we still have the ability to select our politicians who serve over us. Most of all, we must make this God’s fight. Realize that God dwells in you and we are all brethren, that was Jesus’ real message. America belongs to God and unless he tells you directly to use firearms against Obama’s communist government, don’t do it.
I thought for sure Obama would not be reelected. The next day I felt sick to my stomach, like many of you must have felt. I asked God, what happened. It almost felt like my own Father betrayed me. I was upset and very angry because I worked hard against Obama’s communist regime. In prayer God spoke to me, yes God still speaks to people, he said; “You fought the battle politically. The battle needed to be first fought spiritually.” This is a spiritual battle between good and evil first and foremost, if God be for us no one can be against us. Seriously, you know there is not much time so you must quickly get right with God so that the cancerous political situation can be solved by God.
It’s sad, but never before in my life have I been involved in politics and I personally accept responsibility for the condition of the politicians I let get elected, that is what I have been awaken to. It was a punch to my stomach. It was my fault, no one else’s; all mine. I asked God to forgive me and help me, help get God-loving, honest, moral, constitutional loving politicians elected. Many of us did that in our little city of Costa Mesa, California and you can do it where you live. We now have those kind of people sitting on our city council and in other positions.
If the liberal communist democrat party is in control of your local government find out how they are corrupting and damaging everything they touch and begin shout it from the rooftops, with facts, not hearsay, through an honest media. We still have the ability to be heard via the Internet, just like I heard all the people writing in the comment areas how we need to shoot and kill these bastards.
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23927 Mar 18, 2013
If the liberal communist democrat party is in control of your local government find out how they are corrupting and damaging everything they touch and begin shout it from the rooftops, with facts, not hearsay, through an honest media. We still have the ability to be heard via the Internet, just like I heard all the people writing in the comment areas how we need to shoot and kill these bastards. I have no doubt, they are bastards and traitors. These bastards use the word racist against us, lets start using the word traitors against them. In America you’re free to be a racist but you are not free to be a traitor. We have traitors within our government and we must weed them by calling a spade a spade. These traitors need to be put in jail. Some even need to be executed for their treasonous acts against the Constitution, but it must be done as the constitution prescribes.
Finally, as the last resort, if Obama’s communist regime succeeds in replacing our Constitution with a Russian Communist style constitution, of which, by the way, has already been written for the United States, then you can pick up a gun and kill as many communists as you can before you’re shot in the head, you will eventually be shot, because you’re who Obama’s regime are out to kill. The unarmed law-abiding, family-loving, sitting duck, coward in a corner, Christians will be the first to be killed.
How will know the difference between the communists, traitors and the patriots? Any person just following orders from Obama, they will be traitors and they will know it. They will know they have sold their souls for money and power. If it gets to this point freedom in America is doomed. Your children are doomed and they will be turned into traitors and communists. What on earth did you expect? The Department of Education has been brainwashing your children with communism for a long, long time right under your nose---------- Now this guy does have some valid points. I myself dont think there is a viable political or ballott box solution. yes we need to think about our soul. and the public schools are just brainwashing our children. and like the Jews in germany many of us are marked for death. Myself Im hoping for a world wide planet shaking goverments destroying clatyclismic eart changing pole reversing pole shift, One that would destroy the east and west coast . calif and Washington DC gone wouldnt be that big of a loss! Also the new madrid splitting the US in two making everything west of the missippi a seperate continent. That would be god telling me something. Even if I didnt survive it!
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23928 Mar 18, 2013
He lived it, and lived through it. Can you?

http://www.survivalblog.com/2011/09/lessons_f...
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23929 Mar 18, 2013
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23930 Mar 18, 2013
http://rickmick.com/... Navy map of future north america?
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23931 Mar 18, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
He lived it, and lived through it. Can you?
http://www.survivalblog.com/2011/09/lessons_f...
Can I live through it? Probably not. His narrative thats the pretty much the way I think it would be. As I stated before Ill not defend food or hoarded goods. Ive made cashes of supplies and have pack animals. They wont get the chance to burn my home etc.ill do that myself if I need to leave. Im old so my physical fitness is a liability. And he is right folks in america have no morals they will steal & cheat if they get the chance. To be realistic the odds are stacked against survival.
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23932 Mar 18, 2013
curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> Can I live through it? Probably not. His narrative thats the pretty much the way I think it would be. As I stated before Ill not defend food or hoarded goods. Ive made cashes of supplies and have pack animals. They wont get the chance to burn my home etc.ill do that myself if I need to leave. Im old so my physical fitness is a liability. And he is right folks in america have no morals they will steal & cheat if they get the chance. To be realistic the odds are stacked against survival.
Somebody will survive. Those who know how to live off the land and have the mind set to do it will survive. Those who can kill for food and protection will survive. It might as well be you. I will survive!
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23933 Mar 18, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>Somebody will survive. Those who know how to live off the land and have the mind set to do it will survive. Those who can kill for food and protection will survive. It might as well be you. I will survive!
I would prefer it to be my grandchildren that survive before myself. We need to ensure the survival of the young. they are the future. My grandchildren,s survival is importiant to me because they carry some of my DNA. In my next life i would hope to reincarnate into my same family.
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23934 Mar 18, 2013
http://theextinctionprotocol.wordpress.com/20... Do you think your money is safe in the bank?
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23935 Mar 18, 2013
WARRIOR

Alamogordo, NM

#23936 Mar 18, 2013
curmudgeon wrote:
<quoted text> I would prefer it to be my grandchildren that survive before myself. We need to ensure the survival of the young. they are the future. My grandchildren,s survival is importiant to me because they carry some of my DNA. In my next life i would hope to reincarnate into my same family.
The young will need those with experience around to teach them how to survive. Nothing will matter once you are dead..

“Conserve Wildlife Habitat”

Since: Dec 10

SE Michigan

#23938 Mar 18, 2013
WARRIOR wrote:
<quoted text>You know what they say-
The early bird gets the worm!
Good things come to those who wait.
Patience is a virtue.
curmudgeon

Ash Flat, AR

#23939 Mar 18, 2013
Raptor in Michigan wrote:
<quoted text>
Good things come to those who wait.
Patience is a virtue.
He who will not when he may when he will shall have nay. Strike while the irons hot. He who hesitates is lost.

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