Ark. lawmaker proposes new abortion restriction

Jan 29, 2013 Full story: KTHV-TV Little Rock 357

Arkansas would ban abortions if a fetal heartbeat is detected under a bill introduced by a Republican senator Monday, a proposal that would prohibit the medical procedure as early as six weeks into a pregnancy.

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“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#349 Feb 19, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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Well if you had some friends you wouldn't feel left out...but since you seem to think I'm your only friend, guess you're left out! Who's laughing now? Yup, meeeeee! Lmao!
Sarcasm, Kay. It's what's for dinner.

Eat it.

;-)

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#350 Feb 21, 2013
kaylayossi wrote:
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I have fully paid health insurance, paid vacation, paid holidays, and paid sick days. Not to mention profit sharing. I'm a happy camper...you and the others who don't seem to have ever heard of this is unbelievable to me! I've been at my position for 17 years, and along with my hubby am raising three children...sorry your life sucks.
If any of that is true, you must be around 60 years old. Jobs with that kind of benefit package these days are only to be found within the government. In the private sector, they've been going the way of the dinosaur for at least a decade. They can't be found in 2013.

But hell, congratulations.

“and how does this effect you?”

Since: Mar 11

Location hidden

#351 Feb 22, 2013
shovelhead72 wrote:
<quoted text>If any of that is true, you must be around 60 years old. Jobs with that kind of benefit package these days are only to be found within the government. In the private sector, they've been going the way of the dinosaur for at least a decade. They can't be found in 2013.

But hell, congratulations.
Unless you're working with the oilfield, I think the Pipeliners are like that too
Tre

Burlington, KS

#352 Mar 5, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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Ah, so you want to see a woman PUNISHED for having sex by being forced to stay pregnant and give birth against her will. Got it. My answer is NO, she SHOULDN'T be punished for having sex with forced gestation and birth as a punishment.
Motherhood is OPTIONAL, not required, even if a pregnancy happens. It is EACH woman's decision whether or not to continue a pregnancy, and if it isn't YOUR pregnancy, it isn't your decision. It really IS that simple.
But the thing is the majority of women decide to have an abortion because they do not want the baby. An abortion at 21.5 weeks is murder. That baby was perfectly fine, healthy, but that doctor ripped it out of the mom like tissue paper. My baby brother was three months pre-mature and he is JUST FINE! Abortion is MURDER no matter what the circumstances are! So many women choose to have their babies aborted because they mom made a stupid mistake! Not all moms have to have abortions! THEY CHOOSE TOO! THAT IS MURDER! That baby that that doctor pulled out of that women might have grown up to be the next president. That little innocent baby girl that was ripped to shreds and smashed and thrown away.. might have been the one to find a cure for cancer. Now.. we will never know. That is sad. Abortion should be illegal in ALL states of the U.S. It is YOUR FAULT you got pregnant DON"T YOU DARE TAKE IT OUT ON AN INNOCENT CHILD.

“And the Horse You Rode in On”

Since: Sep 08

Minneapolis

#353 Mar 5, 2013
Tre wrote:
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But the thing is the majority of women decide to have an abortion because they do not want the baby. An abortion at 21.5 weeks is murder. That baby was perfectly fine, healthy, but that doctor ripped it out of the mom like tissue paper. My baby brother was three months pre-mature and he is JUST FINE! Abortion is MURDER no matter what the circumstances are! So many women choose to have their babies aborted because they mom made a stupid mistake! Not all moms have to have abortions! THEY CHOOSE TOO! THAT IS MURDER! That baby that that doctor pulled out of that women might have grown up to be the next president. That little innocent baby girl that was ripped to shreds and smashed and thrown away.. might have been the one to find a cure for cancer. Now.. we will never know. That is sad. Abortion should be illegal in ALL states of the U.S. It is YOUR FAULT you got pregnant DON"T YOU DARE TAKE IT OUT ON AN INNOCENT CHILD.
Don't you dare??

LOL, abortion is legal nitwit.

So now you are applying "fault" to pregnancy thus view it as punishment. YAWN> Same old same old crap from you fetus worshippers along with applying all blame to the woman/girl you probably blame them in rape too, misogynists usually do.

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#354 Mar 5, 2013
Tre wrote:
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But the thing is the majority of women decide to have an abortion because they do not want the baby. An abortion at 21.5 weeks is murder. That baby was perfectly fine, healthy, but that doctor ripped it out of the mom like tissue paper. My baby brother was three months pre-mature and he is JUST FINE! Abortion is MURDER no matter what the circumstances are! So many women choose to have their babies aborted because they mom made a stupid mistake! Not all moms have to have abortions! THEY CHOOSE TOO! THAT IS MURDER! That baby that that doctor pulled out of that women might have grown up to be the next president. That little innocent baby girl that was ripped to shreds and smashed and thrown away.. might have been the one to find a cure for cancer. Now.. we will never know. That is sad. Abortion should be illegal in ALL states of the U.S. It is YOUR FAULT you got pregnant DON"T YOU DARE TAKE IT OUT ON AN INNOCENT CHILD.
1) The vast majority of women gestate, keep, and lovingly raise our children, without the need for interference, permission, or approval.

2)Abortion is a LAST RESORT for the vast majority of women who do choose it - we'd MUCH rather gestate a healthy pregnancy, or prevent an unwanted pregnancy, than abort one.

and

3)The vast majority of women who don't want to be mothers, usually aren't very good mothers.

Every child should be a wanted child. When there are no more abandoned, abused, exploited, ignored, molested, neglected, or labeled 'un-adoptable', for any reason whatsoever, already-born children, THEN we can talk about adoption being the best-and-only solution to unwanted pregnancy. Until then? Not so much. The best-and-only solution to unwanted pregnancy, is to avoid it in the first place. That's what self-esteem and contraceptives are for.
Ocean56

AOL

#355 Mar 6, 2013
Tre wrote:
But the thing is the majority of women decide to have an abortion because they do not want the baby. An abortion at 21.5 weeks is murder. That baby was perfectly fine, healthy, but that doctor ripped it out of the mom like tissue paper. My baby brother was three months pre-mature and he is JUST FINE! Abortion is MURDER no matter what the circumstances are! So many women choose to have their babies aborted because they mom made a stupid mistake! Not all moms have to have abortions! THEY CHOOSE TOO! THAT IS MURDER! That baby that that doctor pulled out of that women might have grown up to be the next president. That little innocent baby girl that was ripped to shreds and smashed and thrown away.. might have been the one to find a cure for cancer. Now.. we will never know. That is sad. Abortion should be illegal in ALL states of the U.S. It is YOUR FAULT you got pregnant DON"T YOU DARE TAKE IT OUT ON AN INNOCENT CHILD.
Yes, there are women who abort because they don't want a baby. And that's your business...HOW, exactly? Oh, that's right, IT ISN'T.

This is all tired rhetoric from the anti-choice crowd who says basically the same thing, with a few lame variations. You aren't saying anything new here. Motherhood is still OPTIONAL, not required, and abortion is still legal for those who choose it. Whether YOU like it or not is irrelevant. Any woman is free to reject motherhood for any reason, including the most basic one; she DOESN'T want children. Deal with it.
Tre

Burlington, KS

#356 Mar 6, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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Yes, there are women who abort because they don't want a baby. And that's your business...HOW, exactly? Oh, that's right, IT ISN'T.
This is all tired rhetoric from the anti-choice crowd who says basically the same thing, with a few lame variations. You aren't saying anything new here. Motherhood is still OPTIONAL, not required, and abortion is still legal for those who choose it. Whether YOU like it or not is irrelevant. Any woman is free to reject motherhood for any reason, including the most basic one; she DOESN'T want children. Deal with it.
You just totally missed my point? I'm saying it is murder? I don't care if you want a baby or not! Abortion is murder. Whether you except that or not is your choice. I honestly could care less what you think though. Your views aren't going to change my views and my views aren't aren't going to change yours. I could sit here and argue with you all day on this topic.. but I CHOOSE not to(: There should be strict guidelines an abortions. You don't need to get one because you aren't responsible enough to take care of a child. You can still have a baby it put it up for adoption! Give it to a family who actually cares about human life. Obviously your mother chose to not abort.. God only knows why.. well my point is proven. Good day.
Tre

Burlington, KS

#357 Mar 6, 2013
Morgana 9 wrote:
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Don't you dare??
LOL, abortion is legal nitwit.
So now you are applying "fault" to pregnancy thus view it as punishment. YAWN> Same old same old crap from you fetus worshippers along with applying all blame to the woman/girl you probably blame them in rape too, misogynists usually do.
Actually if you read the context of my comment you will find that I did not put anyone at fault but good move. Yes I say the same "crap" but so do you. I do not blame the woman in rape? Where did that even come from? Understand the argument before engagement. IF a woman wants to abort after a rape GO AHEAD! IT IS STILL MURDER! Whether you accept it as murder is your CHOICE! This is America and honestly your opinion DOES NOT matter to me. Good day.
Tre

Burlington, KS

#358 Mar 6, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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Yes, there are women who abort because they don't want a baby. And that's your business...HOW, exactly? Oh, that's right, IT ISN'T.
This is all tired rhetoric from the anti-choice crowd who says basically the same thing, with a few lame variations. You aren't saying anything new here. Motherhood is still OPTIONAL, not required, and abortion is still legal for those who choose it. Whether YOU like it or not is irrelevant. Any woman is free to reject motherhood for any reason, including the most basic one; she DOESN'T want children. Deal with it.
I agree 100% percent! The only point I'm trying to make is that abortion is murder. I mean that's a fact.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#359 Mar 6, 2013
Tre wrote:
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I agree 100% percent! The only point I'm trying to make is that abortion is murder. I mean that's a fact.
No, actually it's not. Abortion is not murder, and neither is the death penalty, killing in defense of self, loved ones, or country.

Murder is a legal term for an act of illegal killing. None of the above examples fit that definition.
Ocean56

AOL

#360 Mar 7, 2013
Tre wrote:
You just totally missed my point? I'm saying it is murder? I don't care if you want a baby or not! Abortion is murder. Whether you except that or not is your choice. I honestly could care less what you think though. Your views aren't going to change my views and my views aren't aren't going to change yours. I could sit here and argue with you all day on this topic.. but I CHOOSE not to(: There should be strict guidelines an abortions. You don't need to get one because you aren't responsible enough to take care of a child. You can still have a baby it put it up for adoption! Give it to a family who actually cares about human life. Obviously your mother chose to not abort.. God only knows why.. well my point is proven. Good day.
I didn't miss your "point" at all, goofy, I got it just fine. I just don't BUY your so-called "point." Big difference. You can stomp your feet and scream "abortion is murder!" all you want. I don't have to agree with that assertion, and I don't.

EACH woman gets to decide for HERSELF whether or not to continue a pregnancy. Whatever the choice may be, it is still HER decision and none of YOUR business. Motherhood is still OPTIONAL, not required, and NO woman has to be a mother -- or have any MORE kids -- unless she CHOOSES to do so. Deal with it.
Ocean56

AOL

#361 Mar 7, 2013
Tre wrote:
I agree 100% percent! The only point I'm trying to make is that abortion is murder. I mean that's a fact.
NO, it's an OPINION, which I don't agree with. Abortion is the termination of an UNWANTED pregnancy, nothing more or less. YOUR opinion of abortion doesn't matter to me, and you don't get to make sexual and reproductive decisions for anyone but yourself. Live with it.
Tre

Burlington, KS

#362 Mar 8, 2013
Ocean56 wrote:
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NO, it's an OPINION, which I don't agree with. Abortion is the termination of an UNWANTED pregnancy, nothing more or less. YOUR opinion of abortion doesn't matter to me, and you don't get to make sexual and reproductive decisions for anyone but yourself. Live with it.
The baby inside a fetus is considered living. The definition of murder is the act of illegally killing a living human or animal. So yes abortion is murder. Again I'm not going to sit here and argue. I DO NOT care about your opinion AT ALL. Your opinions CANNOT beat the FACTS! I'm not making 'sexual and reproductive decisions' for anyone? That comment had little to ZERO relevance. So my point ONCE AGAIN is... abortion is murder BY DEFINITION. Live with it.(:

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#363 Mar 8, 2013
Tre wrote:
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The baby inside a fetus is considered living. The definition of murder is the act of illegally killing a living human or animal. So yes abortion is murder. Again I'm not going to sit here and argue. I DO NOT care about your opinion AT ALL. Your opinions CANNOT beat the FACTS! I'm not making 'sexual and reproductive decisions' for anyone? That comment had little to ZERO relevance. So my point ONCE AGAIN is... abortion is murder BY DEFINITION. Live with it.(:
You are wrong. Abortion is illegal killing of a human. Abortion is legal killing. You cannot have legal illegal killing. Therefore, abortion is not murder.

By the way, the illegal killing of an animal is simply illegal killing. It, also, is not murder.

“Blessed Be”

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#364 Mar 8, 2013
<Sigh>sorry, that was an editing error. I started to type something else, and corrected it badly.

The second sentence should say "Murder is the illegal killing of a human."

“searching myself”

Since: Sep 09

In Charming CA

#365 Mar 9, 2013
Bitner wrote:
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You are wrong. Abortion is the legal killing of a human. Abortion is legal killing. You cannot have legal illegal killing. Therefore, abortion is not murder.
By the way, the illegal killing of an animal is simply illegal killing. It, also, is not murder.
Ahem.

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