Alaska Enacts Firearms Freedom Act - 8 States Now Passed FFA's

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Alaska became the 8th state to enact a Firearms Freedom Act, the 7th enacted clone of Montana's original bill, when Alaska Governor Sean Parnell signed HB 186, sponsored by Rep...

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Duke

Chicago, IL

#1 Jun 1, 2010
42 to go!

GPM

“DILLIGAF?”

Since: Aug 08

San Antonio, TX

#2 Jun 1, 2010
I've read that the feds (BATFE) are losing their minds over this whole movement. They hate it when anyone wiggles out from under their boot-heel.

Of course, our brave defender of liberty and gun rights, the NRA wrote in their magazines that any member stupid enough to follow their state's law and was subsequently arrested by the feds would get no help from them. In fact, the NRA is one of the strongest supporters of the BATFE outside of the BATFE itself.

Not a day goes by when I do not regret having bought a life membership before I understood fully how corrupt the NRA is and that they need gun control to keep people scared and sending in donations.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#3 Jun 1, 2010
GPM wrote:
I've read that the feds (BATFE) are losing their minds over this whole movement. They hate it when anyone wiggles out from under their boot-heel.
Of course, our brave defender of liberty and gun rights, the NRA wrote in their magazines that any member stupid enough to follow their state's law and was subsequently arrested by the feds would get no help from them. In fact, the NRA is one of the strongest supporters of the BATFE outside of the BATFE itself.
Not a day goes by when I do not regret having bought a life membership before I understood fully how corrupt the NRA is and that they need gun control to keep people scared and sending in donations.
So recind your membership and demand a refund.

“Si vis pacem, para bellum !!”

Since: Dec 07

Southeast Virginia

#4 Jun 1, 2010
NRA...

Negotiating
Rights
Away

GPM

“DILLIGAF?”

Since: Aug 08

San Antonio, TX

#5 Jun 1, 2010
Armed Veteran wrote:
<quoted text>
So recind your membership and demand a refund.
They refused to refund my payment. It's been too long.
Truth

Seneca, IL

#6 Jun 1, 2010
GPM wrote:
I've read that the feds (BATFE) are losing their minds over this whole movement. They hate it when anyone wiggles out from under their boot-heel.
Of course, our brave defender of liberty and gun rights, the NRA wrote in their magazines that any member stupid enough to follow their state's law and was subsequently arrested by the feds would get no help from them. In fact, the NRA is one of the strongest supporters of the BATFE outside of the BATFE itself.
Not a day goes by when I do not regret having bought a life membership before I understood fully how corrupt the NRA is and that they need gun control to keep people scared and sending in donations.
I agree, that is why I do not support the NRA, I support gun owners of America.
Wolverine

Cumberland, MD

#7 Jun 1, 2010
GPM wrote:
I've read that the feds (BATFE) are losing their minds over this whole movement. They hate it when anyone wiggles out from under their boot-heel.
Of course, our brave defender of liberty and gun rights, the NRA wrote in their magazines that any member stupid enough to follow their state's law and was subsequently arrested by the feds would get no help from them. In fact, the NRA is one of the strongest supporters of the BATFE outside of the BATFE itself.
Not a day goes by when I do not regret having bought a life membership before I understood fully how corrupt the NRA is and that they need gun control to keep people scared and sending in donations.
Amen. I got my life membership in the mid-80s. Now I never send them a dime, & I throw all of their begging letters in the trash.
Truth

Seneca, IL

#8 Jun 2, 2010
Wolverine wrote:
<quoted text>Amen. I got my life membership in the mid-80s. Now I never send them a dime, & I throw all of their begging letters in the trash.
I do one better I brow beat them when they send me begging letters, I use their dime to give them what for!!!!

GPM

“DILLIGAF?”

Since: Aug 08

San Antonio, TX

#9 Jun 3, 2010
Truth wrote:
<quoted text>
I do one better I brow beat them when they send me begging letters, I use their dime to give them what for!!!!
I do the same. I stuff everything that they send to me back into their envelope, add my own letter and return it on their dime.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#10 Jun 3, 2010
Wolverine wrote:
<quoted text>Amen. I got my life membership in the mid-80s. Now I never send them a dime, & I throw all of their begging letters in the trash.
YEA. Too many pigs in the NRA.
Wolverine

Cumberland, MD

#11 Jun 15, 2010
Tory II wrote:
<quoted text>YEA. Too many pigs in the NRA.
My problem with the NRA is that there are too many compromisers. The compromisers give away our rights piece meal, instead of defending them w/a no compromise stance.

Since: Jan 10

Las Vegas, NV

#13 Jun 15, 2010
This was an interesting story. States finally pushing back. In a year or so, the left coast and NE will still be red and the rest of country green

GPM

“DILLIGAF?”

Since: Aug 08

San Antonio, TX

#14 Jun 16, 2010
Wolverine wrote:
<quoted text>My problem with the NRA is that there are too many compromisers. The compromisers give away our rights piece meal, instead of defending them w/a no compromise stance.
URGENT ALERT: NRA cuts deals to limit free speech
Three prominent Washington D.C. websites are reporting what many capitol insiders warned of: the National Rifle Association has made a deal with the devil (i.e. anti-gun Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid) to limit the free speech of Americans in exchange for their carved-out exemption.
While some pro-gun rights advocates may think free speech does not matter or that nothing another gun advocacy group does should ever be questioned, the National Association for Gun Rights and I take a very different view.
Without the right to free speech, we are defenseless in the battle to save our Second Amendment rights.
Let me be clear: restricting our First Amendment rights is the first step to stripping us of our Second Amendment rights, and should be resisted at every turn.
We don’t care who you are or what an organization may have done in the past – we only care about whether your actions will promote or harm our rights.
And frankly, this craven deal by the NRA will damage our gun rights and our free speech rights. After you read up on the facts, I ask you to give the NRA an earful by calling 1-800-672-3888 and insist they renounce the deal with Pelosi and Reid. Believe me, it is not too late if you will get involved.

GPM

“DILLIGAF?”

Since: Aug 08

San Antonio, TX

#15 Jun 16, 2010
http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/06/14/yet-...
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/385...
http://www.campaignfreedom.org/newsroom/detai...
Though at first objecting to the DISCLOSE Act, which would radically limit the free speech of organizations and thus, gun owners, the NRA has now agreed to an exemption for their organization (and other mammoth, mostly liberal, organizations like AARP and probably Moveon.org ) in exchange for support of the Democrats’ bill.
This legislation would place draconian limitations on the ability of organizations to voice their opinions on politicians, and by extension, their legislation. The chilling effect on free speech would be difficult to overstate.
Along with their tacit endorsement of Senator Harry Reid, the NRA is signaling that they trust the Democrats will spare the Second Amendment from further assaults.
But that’s a strategy of appeasement, and to put it bluntly, it’s insane. It just delays the inevitable.
Winston Churchill addressed this strategy when he said “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”
Background:
This is not the only time the NRA has cut a deal to harm gun owners and gun rights in the glare of an anti-gun media frenzy.
Just a three years ago, the NRA joined with arch gun-hater Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) to pass H.R. 2640, the Veteran’s Disarmament Act. When gun control advocates saw the Virginia Tech shootings as an opportunity to pass gun control, the NRA immediately signed the documents of surrender and actively lobbied Congress to pass legislation that will disarm tens of thousands of Americans, including veterans.
Why did they do that? Frankly, they were more concerned with what the media and Washington power-bosses were saying than their loyal-to-a-fault members.
Similarly in 2004 when, desperate to pass the Firearms Manufacturers’ Lawsuits Protection bill, the NRA dangled a re-authorization of the Clinton Assault Weapons ban in front of hungry politicians. The deal was going to be that if anti-gun politicians voted for the Lawsuit Protection bill, the NRA would not oppose re-authorization of the sun-setting Clinton Gun Ban.
Thankfully, a coalition of groups led by the National Association for Gun Rights joined together to kill that deal by exposing it to the light of honest gun owners across this nation... just like we are doing now. In that fight, after a few weeks of excuses and covering their tracks, the NRA backed off of the deal, the Lawsuit Protection Bill still passed and the Clinton Gun Ban ended.
What can you do?
Tell the NRA you’ve had enough, and urge them to kill the DISCLOSE Act, not cut a deal to pass it. Call them at 1-800-672-3888 today, as it may be too late tomorrow.

GPM

“DILLIGAF?”

Since: Aug 08

San Antonio, TX

#16 Jun 16, 2010
NRA cuts deals to limit free speech
Three prominent Washington D.C. websites are reporting what many capitol insiders warned of: the National Rifle Association has made a deal with the devil (i.e. anti-gun Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid) to limit the free speech of Americans in exchange for their carved-out exemption.

While some pro-gun rights advocates may think free speech does not matter or that nothing another gun advocacy group does should ever be questioned, the National Association for Gun Rights and I take a very different view.

Without the right to free speech, we are defenseless in the battle to save our Second Amendment rights.

Let me be clear: restricting our First Amendment rights is the first step to stripping us of our Second Amendment rights, and should be resisted at every turn.

We don’t care who you are or what an organization may have done in the past – we only care about whether your actions will promote or harm our rights.

And frankly, this craven deal by the NRA will damage our gun rights and our free speech rights. After you read up on the facts, I ask you to give the NRA an earful by calling 1-800-672-3888 and insist they renounce the deal with Pelosi and Reid. Believe me, it is not too late if you will get involved.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/06/14/yet-...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/385...

http://www.campaignfreedom.org/newsroom/detai...

Though at first objecting to the DISCLOSE Act, which would radically limit the free speech of organizations and thus, gun owners, the NRA has now agreed to an exemption for their organization (and other mammoth, mostly liberal, organizations like AARP and probably Moveon.org ) in exchange for support of the Democrats’ bill.

This legislation would place draconian limitations on the ability of organizations to voice their opinions on politicians, and by extension, their legislation. The chilling effect on free speech would be difficult to overstate.

Along with their tacit endorsement of Senator Harry Reid, the NRA is signaling that they trust the Democrats will spare the Second Amendment from further assaults.

But that’s a strategy of appeasement, and to put it bluntly, it’s insane. It just delays the inevitable.

Winston Churchill addressed this strategy when he said “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”

Background:
This is not the only time the NRA has cut a deal to harm gun owners and gun rights in the glare of an anti-gun media frenzy.

Just a three years ago, the NRA joined with arch gun-hater Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) to pass H.R. 2640, the Veteran’s Disarmament Act. When gun control advocates saw the Virginia Tech shootings as an opportunity to pass gun control, the NRA immediately signed the documents of surrender and actively lobbied Congress to pass legislation that will disarm tens of thousands of Americans, including veterans.

Why did they do that? Frankly, they were more concerned with what the media and Washington power-bosses were saying than their loyal-to-a-fault members.

Similarly in 2004 when, desperate to pass the Firearms Manufacturers’ Lawsuits Protection bill, the NRA dangled a re-authorization of the Clinton Assault Weapons ban in front of hungry politicians. The deal was going to be that if anti-gun politicians voted for the Lawsuit Protection bill, the NRA would not oppose re-authorization of the sun-setting Clinton Gun Ban.

Thankfully, a coalition of groups led by the National Association for Gun Rights joined together to kill that deal by exposing it to the light of honest gun owners across this nation... just like we are doing now. In that fight, after a few weeks of excuses and covering their tracks, the NRA backed off of the deal, the Lawsuit Protection Bill still passed and the Clinton Gun Ban ended.

GPM

“DILLIGAF?”

Since: Aug 08

San Antonio, TX

#17 Jun 16, 2010
URGENT ALERT: NRA cuts deals to limit free speech
Three prominent Washington D.C. websites are reporting what many capitol insiders warned of: the National Rifle Association has made a deal with the devil (i.e. anti-gun Democrats Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid) to limit the free speech of Americans in exchange for their carved-out exemption.

While some pro-gun rights advocates may think free speech does not matter or that nothing another gun advocacy group does should ever be questioned, the National Association for Gun Rights and I take a very different view.

Without the right to free speech, we are defenseless in the battle to save our Second Amendment rights.

Let me be clear: restricting our First Amendment rights is the first step to stripping us of our Second Amendment rights, and should be resisted at every turn.

We don’t care who you are or what an organization may have done in the past – we only care about whether your actions will promote or harm our rights.

And frankly, this craven deal by the NRA will damage our gun rights and our free speech rights. After you read up on the facts, I ask you to give the NRA an earful by calling 1-800-672-3888 and insist they renounce the deal with Pelosi and Reid. Believe me, it is not too late if you will get involved.

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/06/14/yet-...

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/385...

http://www.campaignfreedom.org/newsroom/detai...

Though at first objecting to the DISCLOSE Act, which would radically limit the free speech of organizations and thus, gun owners, the NRA has now agreed to an exemption for their organization (and other mammoth, mostly liberal, organizations like AARP and probably Moveon.org ) in exchange for support of the Democrats’ bill.

This legislation would place draconian limitations on the ability of organizations to voice their opinions on politicians, and by extension, their legislation. The chilling effect on free speech would be difficult to overstate.

Along with their tacit endorsement of Senator Harry Reid, the NRA is signaling that they trust the Democrats will spare the Second Amendment from further assaults.

But that’s a strategy of appeasement, and to put it bluntly, it’s insane. It just delays the inevitable.

Winston Churchill addressed this strategy when he said “An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”

Background:
This is not the only time the NRA has cut a deal to harm gun owners and gun rights in the glare of an anti-gun media frenzy.

Just a three years ago, the NRA joined with arch gun-hater Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-NY) to pass H.R. 2640, the Veteran’s Disarmament Act. When gun control advocates saw the Virginia Tech shootings as an opportunity to pass gun control, the NRA immediately signed the documents of surrender and actively lobbied Congress to pass legislation that will disarm tens of thousands of Americans, including veterans.

Why did they do that? Frankly, they were more concerned with what the media and Washington power-bosses were saying than their loyal-to-a-fault members.

Similarly in 2004 when, desperate to pass the Firearms Manufacturers’ Lawsuits Protection bill, the NRA dangled a re-authorization of the Clinton Assault Weapons ban in front of hungry politicians. The deal was going to be that if anti-gun politicians voted for the Lawsuit Protection bill, the NRA would not oppose re-authorization of the sun-setting Clinton Gun Ban.

Thankfully, a coalition of groups led by the National Association for Gun Rights joined together to kill that deal by exposing it to the light of honest gun owners across this nation... just like we are doing now. In that fight, after a few weeks of excuses and covering their tracks, the NRA backed off of the deal, the Lawsuit Protection Bill still passed and the Clinton Gun Ban ended.

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#18 Jun 17, 2010
Why would NRA support a democrat bill that proposes a law already struck down by the US Supreme Court ?

June 16:
NRA wrote:
Statement From The National Rifle
Association On H.R. 5175, The Disclose Act

The National Rifle Association believes that any restrictions on the political speech of Americans are unconstitutional.

In the past, through the courts and in Congress, the NRA has opposed any effort to restrict the rights of its four million members to speak and have their voices heard on behalf of gun owners nationwide.

The NRA's opposition to restrictions on political speech includes its May 26, 2010 letter to Members of Congress expressing strong concerns about H.R. 5175, the DISCLOSE Act. As it stood at the time of that letter, the measure would have undermined or obliterated virtually all of the NRA's right to free political speech and, therefore, jeopardized the Second Amendment rights of every law-abiding American.

The most potent defense of the Second Amendment requires the most adamant exercise of the First Amendment. The NRA stands absolutely obligated to its members to ensure maximum access to the First Amendment, in order to protect and preserve the freedom of the Second Amendment.

The NRA must preserve its ability to speak. It cannot risk a strategy that would deny its rights, for the Second Amendment cannot be defended without them.

Thus, the NRA's first obligation must be to its members and to its most ardent defense of firearms freedom for America's lawful gun owners.

On June 14, 2010, Democratic leadership in the U.S. House of Representatives pledged that H.R. 5175 would be amended to exempt groups like the NRA, that meet certain criteria, from its onerous restrictions on political speech. As a result, and as long as that remains the case, the NRA will not be involved in final consideration of the House bill.

The NRA cannot defend the Second Amendment from the attacks we face in the local, state, federal, international and judicial arenas without the ability to speak. We will not allow ourselves to be silenced while the national news media, politicians and others are allowed to attack us freely.

The NRA will continue to fight for its right to speak out in defense of the Second Amendment. Any efforts to silence the political speech of NRA members will, as has been the case in the past, be met with strong opposition.

---nra---
Wolverine

Cumberland, MD

#19 Jun 17, 2010
Tory II wrote:
Why would NRA support a democrat bill that proposes a law already struck down by the US Supreme Court ?
June 16:
<quoted text>
Because they have & continue to compromise our rights away.

GPM

“DILLIGAF?”

Since: Aug 08

San Antonio, TX

#20 Jun 17, 2010
Tory II wrote:
Why would NRA support a democrat bill that proposes a law already struck down by the US Supreme Court ?
June 16:
<quoted text>
Because they think that it is better to be the house slave than the field slave, so they kowtow to Master and try really hard to appear "reasonable", to be "good Tobe" as was said in Roots. What they do not seem to see is that they are now perceived as weak sellouts who have no spine or moral compass by both sides.

This faux pas has cost the NRA hugely. Sometimes I wonder if Wayne "Executive VP for Life" la Pierre isn't a puppet of the DNC. I can not imagine a worse move on their part. As you said, the purpose of this bill was already ruled unconstitutional. Why are they signing on to support it instead of girding their loins and preparing for a legal battle?

“Constitutionist/ SAF”

Since: Mar 08

Location hidden

#21 Jun 17, 2010
Prove to all that the NRA supports it.

PROVE IT.

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