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The Dangermonds donate $1 million to Redlands Family YMCA

There are 11 comments on the Redlands Daily Facts story from Oct 3, 2009, titled The Dangermonds donate $1 million to Redlands Family YMCA. In it, Redlands Daily Facts reports that:

ESRI owners Jack and Laura Dangermond have donated $1 million to the Redlands Family YMCA, the largest donation in the organization's history.

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Amalie

Yucaipa, CA

#1 Oct 4, 2009
Nice, very nice. Thank you!
Put it into context

Hesperia, CA

#2 Oct 5, 2009
Since Dangermond pays personal income taxes of 60% and he needs a spiffed up Y to hold onto his employees who get a discount there, it really is a smart investment.

Another way to look at it: The YMCA is private and not cheap. Redlands doesn't have a public swimming facility. It's a private donation to a private facility that enhances a private business.

It's nice, but it ain't Smiley Library or the Bowl.
Amalie

Yucaipa, CA

#3 Oct 5, 2009
That's pretty shallow. First of all, Dangermond has more than enough money to provide a facility on the ESRI Campus and he is smart enough to figure out a way to do just that and still come up with a tax benefit. It is not only ESRI employees who benefit from the Y; the entire community does. So, if it benefits his tax position, that's his business. And, so what if it is a private donation - there is still a public benefit. I am certain that the Library or the Bowl would have appreciated that donation as well but everyone has their own interests and obviously by the size of the donation, Mr. Dangermond's reason must be pretty compelling.
Larry

Moreno Valley, CA

#4 Oct 6, 2009
The Dangermond donation to the the Y was very generous, regardless of tax consequences. ESRI is not the only beneficiary of the donation the whole city--those who choose to--benefit.

This city ought to be very grateful to Jack and Laura. Out of nothing but determination they have created a highly successful software company that competes on the world stage. The greater Redlands and surrounding communities never shared in any of the (financial) risks, but have shared in the many benefits of their success... probably in many ways not publicly known due to their modesty.

Redlands and the surrounding communities should be grateful, very grateful to the Dangermonds for all that they do, known and unknown.
Put it into context

Hesperia, CA

#5 Oct 6, 2009
You're right, Dangermond could have not given to the Y. He could move his business to another city. Redlands should be grateful that ESRI is here.

I just put it into context.

Since the Dangermond's have chosen to stay here, their donation constitutes enlightened self-interest. It's a great way to get stuff done. All should applaud.

On the other hand, this donation isn't a whole lot of money. It's $1 million out of a $13 million project.(ie less that 8% of the capital cost and nothing for operation and maintenance)

I have to admire anyone who builds such a successful enterprise. However, it appears that the majority of the ESRI sales are to government. ie, taxpayer dollars. I may be missing something, but I kind of expect to see my tax dollars come back to help my community.

After watching the Directors of the failed 1st Centennial Bank in Redlands line their pockets with directors fees and perks, then cost taxpayers $225 million and lose $125 million in shareholder equity, it's nice to see someone in Redlands succeed and give back.
Larry

Moreno Valley, CA

#6 Oct 6, 2009
Put it into context wrote:
You're right, Dangermond could have not given to the Y. He could move his business to another city. Redlands should be grateful that ESRI is here.
I just put it into context.
Since the Dangermond's have chosen to stay here, their donation constitutes enlightened self-interest. It's a great way to get stuff done. All should applaud.
On the other hand, this donation isn't a whole lot of money. It's $1 million out of a $13 million project.(ie less that 8% of the capital cost and nothing for operation and maintenance)
I have to admire anyone who builds such a successful enterprise. However, it appears that the majority of the ESRI sales are to government. ie, taxpayer dollars. I may be missing something, but I kind of expect to see my tax dollars come back to help my community.
After watching the Directors of the failed 1st Centennial Bank in Redlands line their pockets with directors fees and perks, then cost taxpayers $225 million and lose $125 million in shareholder equity, it's nice to see someone in Redlands succeed and give back.
You are right about a considerable amount of ESRI sales is to govenerment(s). Most of which get most favorable purhasing considerations (reduced volume pricing).

Also, do you ever hear about what ESRI (Jack) does in emergency situations? The resources (product and personnel) he donates are very large. ESRI is there in almost any major emergency, at home and around the world. Jack doesn't sit back and negotiate contracts. He jumps in and the contracts come later for services.

Again, I would say to all... be grateful, very grateful for the Dangermonds and ESRI. Add to that that they both are very GREEN.
Ethan Hawke

Yucaipa, CA

#8 Oct 7, 2009
Put it into context wrote:
Since Dangermond pays personal income taxes of 60% and he needs a spiffed up Y to hold onto his employees who get a discount there, it really is a smart investment.
Another way to look at it: The YMCA is private and not cheap. Redlands doesn't have a public swimming facility. It's a private donation to a private facility that enhances a private business.
It's nice, but it ain't Smiley Library or the Bowl.
or Recreation and Senior Services.
Ethan Hawke

Yucaipa, CA

#9 Oct 7, 2009
How about donating money for a public pool?

All you southside snobs, just eat it up. The common folks cannot afford the Y.
Anonymous

San Bernardino, CA

#10 Oct 8, 2009
yes Larry-most people-I do believe, are unaware of the beneficial work that is done at ESRI to protect the public. It is nice to see ESRI here in Redlands. Thank you, and thank you to the Dangermonds for the wonderful contributions to their fellow man/woman.
Larry wrote:
<quoted text>
You are right about a considerable amount of ESRI sales is to govenerment(s). Most of which get most favorable purhasing considerations (reduced volume pricing).
Also, do you ever hear about what ESRI (Jack) does in emergency situations? The resources (product and personnel) he donates are very large. ESRI is there in almost any major emergency, at home and around the world. Jack doesn't sit back and negotiate contracts. He jumps in and the contracts come later for services.
Again, I would say to all... be grateful, very grateful for the Dangermonds and ESRI. Add to that that they both are very GREEN.
Karen

Colton, CA

#11 Apr 8, 2012
Thanks, Ethan Hawke. I was thinking the same thing. Our family lives in Redlands, but cannot afford their programs, let alone use of their pool for our children. Our family makes too little money to afford participation, instruction and enrichment in classes that the "Y" offers, yet too much money to qualify for any type of assistance. We are in a crack, and while we applaud donors like the Dangermonds, ahem, doing what they can for their community, their contributions don't affect our family or other's like us who cannot afford the services of the YMCA, but don't qualify for Family Service Association.
Karen

Colton, CA

#12 Apr 8, 2012
P.S. I have no idea why our home computers think we live in Rialto. We never have, and I don't know how to change that. We are residents of Redlands.

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