After another terrible outing Clayton Richard on starting bubble

[KW fan]

ldc wrote:

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What makes you so certain they are going to trade Jenks and others?

What part of "just a guess" means "certain" to you?

ldc wrote:

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Did you ever think the team could actually be looking to add people as opposed to selling at the deadline?

I think Kenny cleared that up for us the other day when he started blaming fans for not showing up.

ldc wrote:

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I know it horrifies you, but the team could actually make the playoffs.\

All they need is the Tigers and Twins to fall apart.

ldc wrote:

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Besides - the team is very high on Jhonny Nunez as a potential closer.
Poreda's future has hardly been determined, nor has anyone else's for this season.

That could be the dumbest thing anyone has ever said on these boards, quite an accomplishment. But thanks for pointing out that the future isn't determined.
Are your Pom Poms mixed black and white or do you have one white and one black one? There is no way you are a male.

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If he can't get the job done, get rid of him.

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There are traditions,......and there are White Sox traditions.....1919

Chick G and Buck brought over a new boy to play with this evening; I thought by the name it was a girl but she turned out to be a boy. He has his own bobblehead they are playing with right now.

There are Traditions... and there are Philly Traditions... Chick G; buck Weaver and Kerri Wood... Since 2003

[Doug]

Wow. This article has been up since last night and so far only one person has been ripping on the Sox. If this were a Cubs article, how many "1908" posts would there be by now? Just goes to show that Cubs fans have better things to do than trash the Sox. I wish I could say the same of Sox fans...

[Chaos]

Doug wrote:

Wow. This article has been up since last night and so far only one person has been ripping on the Sox. If this were a Cubs article, how many "1908" posts would there be by now? Just goes to show that Cubs fans have better things to do than trash the Sox. I wish I could say the same of Sox fans...

That may be true for most Cubs fans, but obviously, that's not YOUR case.

You're "one of those" Cubs "fans" who is obviously more obsessed with the Sox than the Cubs. More reasonable people would have withheld their comment, as you were right to the extent that the lack of "ripping" posts here speaks well for Cubs fans.

...then you showed up.

I hope you're ridiculed by real Cubs fans for being a chump who gives them a bad name.

The real irony here is that you're apparently not smart enough to see the hypocrisy in your post.

Doug, you are a very, very special kind of stupid. You probably don't even realize that you're nothing but a troll.

Instead of putting the word "fans" in quotes to describe the clueless Cubs fanboys, I think I'm going to call them "Dougs" from now on.

[Doug]

Chaos wrote:

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That may be true for most Cubs fans, but obviously, that's not YOUR case.
You're "one of those" Cubs "fans" who is obviously more obsessed with the Sox than the Cubs. More reasonable people would have withheld their comment, as you were right to the extent that the lack of "ripping" posts here speaks well for Cubs fans.
...then you showed up.
I hope you're ridiculed by real Cubs fans for being a chump who gives them a bad name.
The real irony here is that you're apparently not smart enough to see the hypocrisy in your post.
Doug, you are a very, very special kind of stupid. You probably don't even realize that you're nothing but a troll.
Instead of putting the word "fans" in quotes to describe the clueless Cubs fanboys, I think I'm going to call them "Dougs" from now on.

Wow, must have struck a nerve. Point out the fact that this board is actually baseball talk instead of littered with Cubs fans bashing the Sox, and some Sox fan gets all defensive and resorts to insults. You just see some Cubs fan coming on to a Sox board and you go into attack mode. What is wrong with you?

And for the record, go ahead and look at any Cubs story on here and count how many "1908" posts there are. I mean, there could be an article about what Reed Johnson's favorite flavor of ice cream is and you will get dozens of "1908" posts for sure. And the funny thing is, you get so defensive about the White Sox, yet I said nothing bad about them at all. Got issues, Chaos?

[Doug]

Rod wrote:

<quoted text> Sure Javy looks un-hittable in the light hitting N.L. That's why chickensh*t pitchers like Peavy and, Oswalt refuse to leave the N.L.

So then how did he shut down the mighty American League offense of the Red Sox when the Braves played the Sox in interleague play a week or two ago?

[Chick G from Philly]

Doug wrote:

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Wow, must have struck a nerve. Point out the fact that this board is actually baseball talk instead of littered with Cubs fans bashing the Sox, and some Sox fan gets all defensive and resorts to insults. You just see some Cubs fan coming on to a Sox board and you go into attack mode. What is wrong with you?
And for the record, go ahead and look at any Cubs story on here and count how many "1908" posts there are. I mean, there could be an article about what Reed Johnson's favorite flavor of ice cream is and you will get dozens of "1908" posts for sure. And the funny thing is, you get so defensive about the White Sox, yet I said nothing bad about them at all. Got issues, Chaos?

Hey; I'm a cub fan and don't discount my work on the Sox Boards. I spend my whole day on them basing a team from 90 years ago. Whadya want me to do instead; watch the the 2009 chicago cubs? A fate worse than death.

There are Traditions... and There are White Sox Traditions... 2005

[Part-Time Pariah]

KW fan wrote:

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Poreda has 5 pitches, but only one he can throw for a strike with any consistency. He'll be closing as soon as they trade Jenks. Just a guess, but I think it fits.

i don't know where you're getting this information from, but there is no WAY poreda will ever close for us. he is bred, and has had all his success as a starting pitcher.

on another note. richard is our #5 pitcher. this is what they do. they bomb on occasion.

poreda should be inserted into the rotation at #5, as the ceiling is much higher. richard should only be trade bait...

[ldc]

KW fan wrote:

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What part of "just a guess" means "certain" to you?
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I think Kenny cleared that up for us the other day when he started blaming fans for not showing up.
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All they need is the Tigers and Twins to fall apart.
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That could be the dumbest thing anyone has ever said on these boards, quite an accomplishment. But thanks for pointing out that the future isn't determined.
Are your Pom Poms mixed black and white or do you have one white and one black one? There is no way you are a male.

Everything you don't like is the dumbest thing people said on this board.

And while what I say may be "obvious," it's a fact.

The season is long, and so long as this team is in the hunt, the approach should be to buy as opposed to sell.

Furthermore, the team needs to use patience in dealing with people to the fullest extent possible before passing judgment.

Had people and their knee-jerk ways won out, Contreras would have been cut, Ramirez sent back to Cuba, Dye and Konerko traded, Jenks traded, Getz sent down, Floyd sent down or traded and a whole host of other irrational decisions.

Luckly, Kenny Williams, the man you hate, takes a more patient approach, and his patience has worked.

At the All-Star break, the team will be within striking distance.

If the team tanks? Then trade. Until then, I feel it should be a week-by-week assessment of the players, and plans made accordingly.

That's how you handle a long season.

The next piece to figure out? Whether Colon or Richard should take the No. 5, or possibly Poreda.

I personally think it should be Colon -- who did OK as a No. 5 guy considering the team wasn't hitting.

[Part-Time Pariah]

as noted above, 'short arm' nunez will be closing for us before poreda.

[Part-Time Pariah]

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I see our Philadelphia clown has changed his name so he can be an **** under two names. 1919 was a long time ago and one time is not a tradition. However your being an asz clown is getting to be a tradition.

i'm fairly new to the board, and i though other boards had annoying trolls. this guy seriously goes out of his way. i only wish there was an 'ignore' button.

i also wish i had that much time in my day to waste on the same comment 15 times a day. must be nice to be unemployed.

[AEM]

Richard has been brutal as of late, but unless Colon can come back like Jose Contreas, I'd rather have him than "Fat Boy" Harpo Marx Colon !! Way more upside with Richard, Ozzie needs a very short leash on him and needs to have an arm ready in case he start out as bad as yesterday in his next game.

[Chaos]

Doug wrote:

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Wow, must have struck a nerve. Point out the fact that this board is actually baseball talk instead of littered with Cubs fans bashing the Sox, and some Sox fan gets all defensive and resorts to insults. You just see some Cubs fan coming on to a Sox board and you go into attack mode. What is wrong with you?
And for the record, go ahead and look at any Cubs story on here and count how many "1908" posts there are. I mean, there could be an article about what Reed Johnson's favorite flavor of ice cream is and you will get dozens of "1908" posts for sure. And the funny thing is, you get so defensive about the White Sox, yet I said nothing bad about them at all. Got issues, Chaos?

Why would I do that? I'm not interested in the Cubs, and I'm not a troll, so I'm not going to go there. You see, smart people have this ability called "restraint" to avoid things we don't necessarily care for, and not make comments about things we claim to not care for. You, on the other hand, apparently lack this ability.

My only issue is that you are a hypocrite, so much so that you try to rationalize it.

The fact of the matter is this: you came here and commented about the lack of anti-Sox posts, and then made one yourself. You are obviously not a real Cubs fan, but instead just a troll who isn't smart enough to realize that you're doing the VERY THING that you accuse others of doing.

I don't have issues, I just have problems with people who are too stupid to realize that they're doing the VERY THING they are bashing others for doing. If anyone has "issues," I'd say it's the person who can't even realize their own actions.

You don't know enough about baseball to make a worthwhile post, that's why you just troll.

If you're really a Cubs fan, complain to the people you're whining about, don't come here and try to bait other people into your trolling.

My bashing you has NOTHING to do with you claiming to be a Cubs fan, and everything to do with you being too stupid to realize that you ARE the person that you bash in your post. The posts here were relevant to the story until you showed up.

People like you give real Cubs fans a bad name.

[Chaos]

Part-Time Pariah wrote:

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i don't know where you're getting this information from, but there is no WAY poreda will ever close for us. he is bred, and has had all his success as a starting pitcher.
on another note. richard is our #5 pitcher. this is what they do. they bomb on occasion.
poreda should be inserted into the rotation at #5, as the ceiling is much higher. richard should only be trade bait...

Every pitcher will bomb on occasion. However SEVEN NON-QUALITY STARTS in a row is just pathetic. Clayton Richard is no starter, and why they keep focusing on this guy over Poreda, and before he was traded, Lance Broadway (who always looked decent as a starter), is a mystery to me. Richard didn't look all that great last year either, but you tack SEVEN consecutive non-quality starts on that, and IMO, it's clear - this dude isn't fit to be a MLB starter.

[Geo Soto]

I'm on the DL now for the next month. Gotta pain in my side. Can anyone get me some of that medicinal marijuana? Ya know, to help ease the pain...

[NadaFanatic-007]

Seville J wrote:

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Well according to Pulitzer prize winner Jim Richards, Clayton is going to be one of the best MLB pitchers.

Well, well...If isn't my favorite backslider,'Seville', who 'belongs to God' and 'read the bible'. Is this how Jesus would act Mr./Mrs. Backslider?

[Doug]

Chaos wrote:

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Why would I do that? I'm not interested in the Cubs, and I'm not a troll, so I'm not going to go there. You see, smart people have this ability called "restraint" to avoid things we don't necessarily care for, and not make comments about things we claim to not care for. You, on the other hand, apparently lack this ability.

And so do most Sox fans apparently. Why else would the Cubs boards be littered with "1908" postings on every single Cubs story? And smart people don't just avoid things they don't care for. Smart people can actually engage in conversation about something they don't care for and express why they don't care for it. It's called a debate.

Chaos wrote:

<quoted text>My only issue is that you are a hypocrite, so much so that you try to rationalize it.
The fact of the matter is this: you came here and commented about the lack of anti-Sox posts, and then made one yourself. You are obviously not a real Cubs fan, but instead just a troll who isn't smart enough to realize that you're doing the VERY THING that you accuse others of doing.

How am I a hypocrite? I pointed out the fact that there wasn't much Sox bashing on here and compared it to the Cubs boards that are full of "1908" posts. I said nothing bad about the White Sox themselves. I could have brought up so many things about the Sox, but I said nothing. Which leads me to believe the Sox bashing you think I was doing was just the fact that I, a Cubs fan, had the audacity to post something on a Sox board. The nerve! Oh and by the way, smart people also have this thing called "not using the Caps Lock key for no reason". Notice how I don't use the Caps Lock key and notice how you do.

Chaos wrote:

<quoted text>I don't have issues, I just have problems with people who are too stupid to realize that they're doing the VERY THING they are bashing others for doing. If anyone has "issues," I'd say it's the person who can't even realize their own actions.
You don't know enough about baseball to make a worthwhile post, that's why you just troll.

And you know I know nothing about baseball how? I only made an observation on the Sox fans posting on the Cubs boards compared to the Cubs fans lack of posting on the Sox boards. How could you possibly judge my baseball knowledge based on that? Or maybe you, like many Sox fans, just think that all Cubs fans don't pay attention to the game, just go to Wrigley to drink and be seen...hold on, let me go over to the Cubs boards and see what else you Sox fans say about going to Wrigley... Oh, the bathrooms are terrible and the food stinks and there's no parking. Thanks for telling me what to say, Sox fans on Cubs boards.

Chaos wrote:

<quoted text>If you're really a Cubs fan, complain to the people you're whining about, don't come here and try to bait other people into your trolling.
My bashing you has NOTHING to do with you claiming to be a Cubs fan, and everything to do with you being too stupid to realize that you ARE the person that you bash in your post. The posts here were relevant to the story until you showed up.
People like you give real Cubs fans a bad name.

I do complain to my fellow Cubs fans. Actually, it's more like take pitty on you with my fellow Cubs fans. We cannot see how Sox fans could be so obsessed, so addicted to everything Cubs. It's sad too, that instead of focusing on your 2005 World Series win, you bring up the fact the Cubs haven't won since 1908 more often. It's sad, and you do have issues. So please, for your own good, get some help!

[Nada Surf]

Seville J wrote:

Clayton will be good, just needs to sit in the minors for a good season.

No dummy...
Clayton doesn't need to be going to the minors.

[Nada Surf]

KW fan wrote:

Remember how many people around here thought that Clayton was far better than Peavey and Oswalt? Once MLB hitters have seen a guy a couple times, everything changes for the middle of the pack pitchers and certainly the guys below them.
Don't expect much more out of Poreda, one pitch pitchers rarely do much. Maybe in a year or two......maybe.

Ever though of Prozac?