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After another terrible outing Clayton Richard on starting bubble

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Clayton Richard barely had time to break a sweat Thursday during his shortest start of the season.

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Hardliner

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#1
Jul 9, 2009
 
What would a White Sox season be without angst over the No.5 spot in the rotation? The offseason I guess.
Karl from L A

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#2
Jul 9, 2009
 
Clayton is most effective when his fastball sits at 90mph and is able to hit the zone. Lately, he's been overthrowing at 95mph and been pretty wild. Please spend some time with some guy named Mark Buerhle.
drunk mick

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#3
Jul 9, 2009
 
frustrating, frustrating, andmore frustrating.

Now shake it off!!!

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#4
Jul 9, 2009
 
Clayton will be good, just needs to sit in the minors for a good season.
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#5
Jul 9, 2009
 
Please do not bring back Colon! I cannot stand to sit through another of his games!
KW fan

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#7
Jul 9, 2009
 
Remember how many people around here thought that Clayton was far better than Peavey and Oswalt? Once MLB hitters have seen a guy a couple times, everything changes for the middle of the pack pitchers and certainly the guys below them.
Don't expect much more out of Poreda, one pitch pitchers rarely do much. Maybe in a year or two......maybe.

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Jul 9, 2009
 
KW fan wrote:
Remember how many people around here thought that Clayton was far better than Peavey and Oswalt? Once MLB hitters have seen a guy a couple times, everything changes for the middle of the pack pitchers and certainly the guys below them.
Don't expect much more out of Poreda, one pitch pitchers rarely do much. Maybe in a year or two......maybe.
Well according to Pulitzer prize winner Jim Richards, Clayton is going to be one of the best MLB pitchers.
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Jul 9, 2009
 
Clayton Richard still isn't the answer as the fifth starter - he seems to be getting worse with every start. Now that they have found Bartolo Colon it will be interesting to see what he has left - if anything. It's now obvious that the Sox don't want Poreda to start until he developes a THIRD PITCH - the changeup? I'm still scratching my head regarding Sox fans who are reading Poreda's 2007 scouting report. One pitch pitchers can be good, but two pitch pitchers with a good fastball/slider combo adds up to a 0.90 era. The only other options are a trade or call up Carlos Torres from Charlotte.
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Jul 9, 2009
 
Seville J wrote:
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Well according to Pulitzer prize winner Jim Richards, Clayton is going to be one of the best MLB pitchers.
Not going to be,"already is" is what he said.
The guy needs to do a George Costanza and just say the opposite of everything he thinks and he will be in shock at how often he is right about what he says, and ultimately he will be able to get a decent job and live in something better than a shack because of it.
My humanitarian work for the day is done.
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Jul 9, 2009
 
CC Sox Fan wrote:
Clayton Richard still isn't the answer as the fifth starter - he seems to be getting worse with every start. Now that they have found Bartolo Colon it will be interesting to see what he has left - if anything. It's now obvious that the Sox don't want Poreda to start until he developes a THIRD PITCH - the changeup? I'm still scratching my head regarding Sox fans who are reading Poreda's 2007 scouting report. One pitch pitchers can be good, but two pitch pitchers with a good fastball/slider combo adds up to a 0.90 era. The only other options are a trade or call up Carlos Torres from Charlotte.
Poreda has 5 pitches, but only one he can throw for a strike with any consistency. He'll be closing as soon as they trade Jenks. Just a guess, but I think it fits.
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Jul 9, 2009
 
Ozzie didn't do Clayton any favors by pitching him on just 4 days rest. That's something you can ask one of your top pitchers to do, but messing with your shakiest pitcher's schedule is asking for trouble. That virtually guaranteed a loss today in order to "set up" the rotation for the Twins this weekend. Was it worth it?
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Jul 9, 2009
 
Tex wrote:
Ozzie didn't do Clayton any favors by pitching him on just 4 days rest. That's something you can ask one of your top pitchers to do, but messing with your shakiest pitcher's schedule is asking for trouble. That virtually guaranteed a loss today in order to "set up" the rotation for the Twins this weekend. Was it worth it?
Richard wants to get better obviously. The important thing is that with his attitude he will put in the effort and work and maybe he will read the Bible for pitchers "Pitching to Win" by Hal Newhouser.
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#19
Jul 9, 2009
 
God, what a headache.
Real

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#20
Jul 9, 2009
 
This guy is a joke. Talk about a specialty reliever who should face one, two hitters, tops, in a MLB game. Maybe a career minor leaguer.
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#21
Jul 9, 2009
 
Tex wrote:
Ozzie didn't do Clayton any favors by pitching him on just 4 days rest. That's something you can ask one of your top pitchers to do, but messing with your shakiest pitcher's schedule is asking for trouble. That virtually guaranteed a loss today in order to "set up" the rotation for the Twins this weekend. Was it worth it?
just like last year when ozzie/kenny set up javy, sending him out on 3 days rest one or two times, he obviously didn't pitch well & he's under the bus & being bad-mouthed by ozzie/kenny. and then on the bus to Atlanta. i'm watching for this pattern to emerge with clayton richard.
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#22
Jul 9, 2009
 
Clayton Richard would be more valuable to the team if his only job was to wash the team bus. He's been horrible lately.
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#23
Jul 10, 2009
 
Richard pitched on 3 days rest. Ozzie wanted to set his rotation so Floyd, Danks and Buehrle would pitch against the Twins this weekend.

It would have been better to give Poreda his first start last night.
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Jul 10, 2009
 
I'm back

There are traditions,......and there are White Sox traditions.....1919
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Jul 10, 2009
 
Schwing wrote:
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just like last year when ozzie/kenny set up javy, sending him out on 3 days rest one or two times, he obviously didn't pitch well & he's under the bus & being bad-mouthed by ozzie/kenny. and then on the bus to Atlanta. i'm watching for this pattern to emerge with clayton richard.
Javy looks a little better now. Wish they still have him. who did they get for him again?
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Jul 10, 2009
 
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Poreda has 5 pitches, but only one he can throw for a strike with any consistency. He'll be closing as soon as they trade Jenks. Just a guess, but I think it fits.
What makes you so certain they are going to trade Jenks and others?

Did you ever think the team could actually be looking to add people as opposed to selling at the deadline?

I know it horrifies you, but the team could actually make the playoffs.

Besides - the team is very high on Jhonny Nunez as a potential closer.

Poreda's future has hardly been determined, nor has anyone else's for this season.
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