Ranking The NFC North: First Place, The Green Bay Packers

Jun 1, 2013 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: SidelionReport

The NFC North has been one of the most competitive division in the NFL for the last three seasons with each team registering at least one 10 win season over that time.

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Can some one pass the catsup?
This crow is not very good.
Green bay have a good year you deserve it.
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the team should be better then this.
we are lacking in coaching i'm afraid.
and what the hell is this new QB thing all about?
oh by the way I'm North of Duluth about 40 miles.
Yes, the team should be better than this and now they will go back to Freeman. They should have packaged their whole stable of QB's and traded them for a Pop Tart before the deadline. Webb even got a shot at QB, but his chance to shine was befuddled by penalty against GB.
I'm 75 miles west of Duluth.
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I'm 10 yards south of Freeman sitting on the bench.....
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I'm making pottery with a boys youth group at a local church. My phone is not ringing.
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Tebow wrote:
I'm making pottery with a boys youth group at a local church. My phone is not ringing.
Except from the unemployed well-wishers sending cheerful tweets from their burn-phones
#ISuckAtQB

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Yes, the team should be better than this and now they will go back to Freeman. They should have packaged their whole stable of QB's and traded them for a Pop Tart before the deadline. Webb even got a shot at QB, but his chance to shine was befuddled by penalty against GB.
I'm 75 miles west of Duluth.
The team seems lost. That's coaching

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The team seems lost. That's coaching
The QB carrousel looks like a last ditch effort to turn around a lost season. I've not a clue as to where those decisions lie, Mark Wilf, Spielman, or Leslie. If the head coach is being usurped by his superiors on choice of QB, then that makes the Coaches job that much more difficult. I know it's not only offensive woes, that defense can play a team excellent for two downs every series only to collapse every third play and allow the 1st on 3rd & 15.
Was it demoralizing to loose Antoine on defense and Percy on offense?
I saw some fight late in the GB game, sure it was garbage time, but fight is one thing vanquished from this team during their 2013 season. We'll see if anything good comes of it.
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Anyhing good...like better seats to watch the Super Bowl from the stands...

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<quoted text>The QB carrousel looks like a last ditch effort to turn around a lost season. I've not a clue as to where those decisions lie, Mark Wilf, Spielman, or Leslie. If the head coach is being usurped by his superiors on choice of QB, then that makes the Coaches job that much more difficult. I know it's not only offensive woes, that defense can play a team excellent for two downs every series only to collapse every third play and allow the 1st on 3rd & 15.
Was it demoralizing to loose Antoine on defense and Percy on offense?
I saw some fight late in the GB game, sure it was garbage time, but fight is one thing vanquished from this team during their 2013 season. We'll see if anything good comes of it.
A good draft pick if we keep on losing...

What's out there for REAL QBs?
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The QB carrousel looks like a last ditch effort to turn around a lost season. I've not a clue as to where those decisions lie, Mark Wilf, Spielman, or Leslie. If the head coach is being usurped by his superiors on choice of QB, then that makes the Coaches job that much more difficult. I know it's not only offensive woes, that defense can play a team excellent for two downs every series only to collapse every third play and allow the 1st on 3rd & 15.
Was it demoralizing to loose Antoine on defense and Percy on offense?
I saw some fight late in the GB game, sure it was garbage time, but fight is one thing vanquished from this team during their 2013 season. We'll see if anything good comes of it.
Keep in mind "40 for 60" we Packer fans have had the luxury of great QB play since 1992. One for sure HOF'er and another one in the making plus another 5-6 yrs of good to great play expected barring injury. I wonder how many QB's have started for the Vikings, Lions and Bears in that same time period? During that same time period all 3 of those teams had some very talented teams as the Vikings do this year. However, if you have an unsettled QB position you most likely will be doomed for failure. The bad part of the mess that the Vikings are going thru is they may have wasted the talent of one of the best running backs of the last 10yrs. Kinda like the Lions did with Barry Sanders. While it doesn't take a great QB to win a championship it certainly helps. Also, having a great QB doesn't guarantee a championship. None of the 3 in Minnesota appear to be the answer.

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<quoted text>Keep in mind "40 for 60" we Packer fans have had the luxury of great QB play since 1992. One for sure HOF'er and another one in the making plus another 5-6 yrs of good to great play expected barring injury. I wonder how many QB's have started for the Vikings, Lions and Bears in that same time period? During that same time period all 3 of those teams had some very talented teams as the Vikings do this year. However, if you have an unsettled QB position you most likely will be doomed for failure. The bad part of the mess that the Vikings are going thru is they may have wasted the talent of one of the best running backs of the last 10yrs. Kinda like the Lions did with Barry Sanders. While it doesn't take a great QB to win a championship it certainly helps. Also, having a great QB doesn't guarantee a championship. None of the 3 in Minnesota appear to be the answer.
The quality, durability, and longevity of your QB's is beyond freaky, especially the durability.
When Majik went down, isnt that when Favre took over?
Since going down geriactric avenue for our most important position, brass has swung and missed with Tarvaris and now Christian.
Instead of relating AD to Barry, I'm more inclined to have AD mirror Walter Payton's career. They are more similar in the way they run than Sanders, and Sweetness won a Championship late in his career. Must be the optimist in me.
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The quality, durability, and longevity of your QB's is beyond freaky, especially the durability.
When Majik went down, isnt that when Favre took over?
Since going down geriactric avenue for our most important position, brass has swung and missed with Tarvaris and now Christian.
Instead of relating AD to Barry, I'm more inclined to have AD mirror Walter Payton's career. They are more similar in the way they run than Sanders, and Sweetness won a Championship late in his career. Must be the optimist in me.
Favre did take over for Majik who was playing well at the time of his injury. Even though the Packers have been solid at the QB position the last 20+ yrs I think most of us would admit there was a little luck involved. Ron Wolf had wanted to draft Favre when Wolf was with the Jets, I believe. Favre was a 3rd stringer for the Falcons and Wolf traded for him. We all know the story on Rodgers. A buddy and I were sitting at a bar watching that draft and as Rodgers kept dropping we kept saying the Packers would have to take him. I felt Favre still had 2-3 good years in him and Rodgers was too good to pass up. Best thing to happen, I feel, is that Rodgers wasn't thrown in as a rookie starter. Some have success at that, Luck, Wilson, GriffinIII while others fail miserably. Didn't mean to compare Peterson and Sanders as the same type of backs. Not sure you can compare anyone to Sanders. Similar situations with their teams is what I was trying to get at.
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It's not just a QB, it's not just a RB, it's more coaching and the GM and their ability to evaluate talent. The Vikings have a huge problem in that area. Favre was 3rd string in Atlanta. When Wolf and Holmgren came into GB, they saw Favre's potential and got him. When Wolf and Holmgren left GB, and Sherman took over both positions, and even with a veteran Favre still there, GB languished and eventually went 4 & 12.

Enter Thompson & McCarthy, enter Aaron Rodgers and essentially no running game, and they win it all in 2010. These days you do need a very good QB who can pass and change plays at the line. But it's more than a QB, ask two-trophy Eli, who is struggling this year. You also need to constantly bring in the youngsters via the draft. Teams get old and get injuries real quick, and Thompson understands this. TT took a lot of heat for not doing the big FA deals. Everyone wants to trade away their problems and trade for their solutions. That seldom works. Now, once again, he has a talented, young team with key, veteran leadership and a good head coach. And his second string players on offense AND DEFENSE are winning games. That was essentially GB's second string that beat the Vikings last Sunday.

FACTOID from last Sunday nights game: 50 of the 53 man GB roster have never played for another NFL team. The exceptions were Kuhn, Seneca Wallace and ????. That really says something about understanding today's game, your evaluation of raw talent, the resulting drafting, and ultimately, the coaching/development of those young players. Many players will ultimately move on. You just have to keep finding the "next man up."

Many of the things the Vikings lack.
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Pickett is the other player missing from the FACTOID. Very good points above.

Not only do you ahve to keep finding the next man up, but you also have to give the young guys a fair cahnce to devlope and become solid contibutors to the team. Not just jump and and overpay any FA you think will help.

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Can't wait for the MNF game....the Cutler-less Bears at the Packers.......lol....Thank God for, On Demand....lol....
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Im looking forward to it myself,although,im not convinced Josh McGown is that bad of a qb and with Marshall,Forte in there,Chicago can put some points on the board. Granted, I really dont think Chicago's offense can keep up with GB offense but,take them lightly and Chicago may win it.Turn it over a few times,a few stupid penalties ect.well,,,,,,,,,,point is Green Bay Still MUST play a clean game to win it,dont take them lightly.
I still find it hard to believe Matt Forte never had a 100 yard game vs Green Bay.
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I Know I Know wrote:
It's not just a QB, it's not just a RB, it's more coaching and the GM and their ability to evaluate talent. The Vikings have a huge problem in that area. Favre was 3rd string in Atlanta. When Wolf and Holmgren came into GB, they saw Favre's potential and got him. When Wolf and Holmgren left GB, and Sherman took over both positions, and even with a veteran Favre still there, GB languished and eventually went 4 & 12.
Enter Thompson & McCarthy, enter Aaron Rodgers and essentially no running game, and they win it all in 2010. These days you do need a very good QB who can pass and change plays at the line. But it's more than a QB, ask two-trophy Eli, who is struggling this year. You also need to constantly bring in the youngsters via the draft. Teams get old and get injuries real quick, and Thompson understands this. TT took a lot of heat for not doing the big FA deals. Everyone wants to trade away their problems and trade for their solutions. That seldom works. Now, once again, he has a talented, young team with key, veteran leadership and a good head coach. And his second string players on offense AND DEFENSE are winning games. That was essentially GB's second string that beat the Vikings last Sunday.
FACTOID from last Sunday nights game: 50 of the 53 man GB roster have never played for another NFL team. The exceptions were Kuhn, Seneca Wallace and ????. That really says something about understanding today's game, your evaluation of raw talent, the resulting drafting, and ultimately, the coaching/development of those young players. Many players will ultimately move on. You just have to keep finding the "next man up."
Many of the things the Vikings lack.
Very good points!

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I dunno. I think this game may be closer than you might think. The Bears are capable of lighting it up when they need to, and all it takes is a turnover at the wrong time to change the direction of the game.

I'm not counting this as a W for the Packers until the clock runs out. This game has upset written all over it, way more than the Vikings game last week.
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I agree with that. AR doesnt turn it over much and like i said in 1917,GB must play a clean game.A rival game is always tough and a Chicago win puts them right there with Green Bay AND they get the tie breaker ( temporarily)and the knowledge of if Green Bay wins,Green Bay is a bit ahead and the tie breaker,so that puts Chicago in a tough ( temporary) spot.
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Meaning a GB win puts them at 6-2,Chicago at 4-4 AND GB has the tie breaker so ess. GB has a 3 game lead..
a Chicago win puts them at 5-3,,GB at 5-3 and Chicago has the tie breaker,so,it say its much more important for Chicago and Chicago is well aware of whats at stake so id expect them to come out fighting with it all

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