Speaking Rock's gamble: Former casino brings in big names for free

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Jonathan Davis of Korn at the County coliseum in 2006. Korn will give a free outdoor concert Oct.
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Enrique

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Is smoking still allowed indoors? The last time I went I came out reeking of cigarette stench and never returned.
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Vivan los Indios hijos de su...
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good for them, free concerts nice

AND DWIGHT YOAKAM ON SEPT. 17TH,,, HECK YEAH ILL BE THERE.
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El Paso or Texas is so blind. The casino brings additional jobs and money into the community. Not to mention its one more thing El Pasoans can do on the weekend. When are the leaders going to get smart. Why give New Mexico the business when we could have something here. Once again, El Paso shows that its a second rate city and not capable of going ahead.
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Aug 27, 2010
 
to the poster above. it's not el paso holding this back.
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We can thank the former Texas Attorny-General, now-Senator John Cornyn, also the just-released from prison, the shyster-Jack Abramoff and that slick dishonored former Texas Representative, Tom delay for the cruel and racist backstabbing bahaviour towards all the Texas-based Indian Reservation business that were trying to set up or continue the Casino businesses. Miss Norma Chavez proved to be as vacant a person that we all assumed, when she failed to walk-the walk...instead all she did was talk and talk and align herself with the former Texas Speaker of the House- Tom Craddick's Baptist mafia.

Reckon you gotta be one of them 'Good Ole Boy's to conduct any gambling franchise in this State of Texas.

Dispicable and shameful tactis used against Native Americans (and Mexican Americans), another lovely legacy of racist elements embedded in America's political and banking world.
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Furious wrote:
We can thank the former Texas Attorny-General, now-Senator John Cornyn, also the just-released from prison, the shyster-Jack Abramoff and that slick dishonored former Texas Representative, Tom delay for the cruel and racist backstabbing bahaviour towards all the Texas-based Indian Reservation business that were trying to set up or continue the Casino businesses. Miss Norma Chavez proved to be as vacant a person that we all assumed, when she failed to walk-the walk...instead all she did was talk and talk and align herself with the former Texas Speaker of the House- Tom Craddick's Baptist mafia.
Reckon you gotta be one of them 'Good Ole Boy's to conduct any gambling franchise in this State of Texas.
Dispicable and shameful tactis used against Native Americans (and Mexican Americans), another lovely legacy of racist elements embedded in America's political and banking world.
Why do you have to bring the racist card out. That is all people say now a days racist this, racist that, bunch of crap. STOP IT IT ONLY HARBORS HATE!!! On another note the casino needs some work. Needs to redo the ventilation it is horrid in the
Casino with all the smoke, needs cleaning not very clean, the employees need to be more professional they are practically making out with each other. I have seen where the young ladies are holding hands with the so called security guards while customers are waiting for their drinks. The security is pathetic, a whole bunch of fat guys which look like they haven't taken a bath for weeks, their uniforms look like they haven't been washed in weeks, ugh. You are just attracting the lowlifes of society. If you want to attract the well to be people of society you should start fixing the place up instead of bringing concerts. Fix what is broken and then start making it better. Just my opinion.
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Aug 27, 2010
 
Not to worry this concert is going to bring in business for the whole area.
Giovannashouse

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Aug 27, 2010
 
Its not El Paso it is the idiots at the state house that do not want gambling.I thought that dealings with the Native American population were the federal governments territory. Yes Perry and his cronies are idiots.
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small yes but KORN is coming for free and the think they are well to be people can just stay home if you don't like it. More for the rest of us
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Get outta the 80's El Paso....geeezzz it's 2010. Is viagra and metamucil sponsoring those shows?
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Viva Vegas...and uhhh you are who and your opinion is uhhh what? Blow off mate, you have no clue,

Seems as your comments on the appearancs of the guards and the bit about low-lifes, obviously identifies you as some elitist cad, who thinks of theirselves as being better that others...sod off mate.
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Blondie is finally coming thank you speaking rock. KLAQ killed punk and new wave in the late 70's and 80's because Magic Mike ran Led Zeppelin radio (AKA KLAQ) and shut everything else out. Thank you again to speaking rock for making the music scene better for our city.
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Aug 27, 2010
 
Nobody sees whats going on here? Speaking Rock is becoming the Wal-mart of the block. Its bullying smaller concert promoters and venues (nightclubs, bars) to step back, and making bigger promoters (Klaq, Street Fest Organizers) to drop prices for their huge events which cost hundreds of thousands to pull off....in other words, we will be seeing less events in this city!
Anybody stuck on the "oh this is great, please more free concerts" mentality will only ruin an already strapped industry that's barely making it, look at what the Liquor Dicks, Whiskey Dicks mentality ($2 U call it 24/7) has done to the industry. Its forced bigger venues like Dallas Nights, Republic, Peoria, to do the same, making smaller bars suffer. Less is not more in this instance, less is monopolizing a service making it difficult to ever rebound. Speaking Rock is soon to do the same, making it even harder to sustain.
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Otter wrote:
Get outta the 80's El Paso....geeezzz it's 2010. Is viagra and metamucil sponsoring those shows?
I'd rather listen to 70s/80s rock for the rest of my natural life over the Lady Gaga, Britney Spears, Rihanna, and any other of that American Idol crap that passes for music these days!

The 70s/80s period was the golden age of rock music that will never be duplicated, much less eclipsed!
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Otter wrote:
Get outta the 80's El Paso....geeezzz it's 2010. Is viagra and metamucil sponsoring those shows?
sorry to the Justin Beaver fans, but were the generation with the ca$h...
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Wolf in Sheeps Clothing wrote:
Nobody sees whats going on here? Speaking Rock is becoming the Wal-mart of the block. Its bullying smaller concert promoters and venues (nightclubs, bars) to step back, and making bigger promoters (Klaq, Street Fest Organizers) to drop prices for their huge events which cost hundreds of thousands to pull off....in other words, we will be seeing less events in this city!
Anybody stuck on the "oh this is great, please more free concerts" mentality will only ruin an already strapped industry that's barely making it, look at what the Liquor Dicks, Whiskey Dicks mentality ($2 U call it 24/7) has done to the industry. Its forced bigger venues like Dallas Nights, Republic, Peoria, to do the same, making smaller bars suffer. Less is not more in this instance, less is monopolizing a service making it difficult to ever rebound. Speaking Rock is soon to do the same, making it even harder to sustain.
You or a friend of your's must run some of these local venues. Have you noticed the prices of some of the concerts that come to Abraham Chavez, the County Coliseum, or The Don? I remember going to the concerts of some of the biggest acts in the world for $10-$15. Now, you pay $30-$50 for nose-bleed seats at some of the lamest one-hit wonders to ever disgrace the music scene. I hate the Wal-Mart business practice as much as anyone but the reality is that some of these promoters you mentioned are raping us and hopefully this will force them not to go out of business but rather to charge a fair price for tickets. If Speaking Rock can afford to bring these acts in for free then it shows us that these other promoters can afford to cut ticket prices and still turn a profit.
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I am not an owner, nor a friend of an owner, I am what some may call a "watchdog". I value my dollar and my entertainment. The above mentioned venues have ZERO value to me, I cant enjoy a drink in a venue where its 18 and over, selling $1 specials, and everybody is sloshed and wants to fight. I am concerned.
Look up Pollstar...these shows cost anywhere from $50k to $175K just for performance fees. Add room, travel, meals, advertising and all those little expenses and your in the 100K window. Now add that El Paso buys tickets the day of an event, do the promoter needs to tie up his monies til then,(I am a last minute ticket buyer myself, because sometimes I just dont have the cash). With that said, Speaking Rock made MILLIONS off this city, and the city was making MILLIONS off of them, just like Wal-Mart and other Mega-Corps. So they have the cash to tie up on free events, the article said it was a "gamble". They are hoping thousands of people will come and spend money on gambling and food/drinks. If 5,000 people show up for this show and each person spends $20 bucks....they just made 100K....the sound set up alone for Korn is half of that! But they make up for the loss gambling that people will blow money in the casino. Everything is a risk, but the big picture is, if they are successful, we will be seeing less quality events in the city. Good quality events must have a $30-$40 ticket price, renting the Haskins alone is 10-15K....add security, insurance, blah blah blah and your out 25-30K before you can even book your talent.
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Typical El Paso...constantly complaining we don't have this and we don't have that, its too expensive, blah, blah, blah...
And yet here we have Speaking Rock stepping up and giving it to you for FREE and you still find something to complain about.

You people are a bunch of whiners!

I am convinced if everyone in El Paso was given 1 million dollars free and clear, they would complain about the color of the money.
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obama_bin_laden wrote:
good for them, free concerts nice
AND DWIGHT YOAKAM ON SEPT. 17TH,,, HECK YEAH ILL BE THERE.
I also like 'Obama bin Biden.'

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