BCS prepared for possible lawsuit by Utah Attorney General

SALT LAKE CITY - Even though Florida and Oklahoma played for college football's national championship Thursday night, Utah fans fell as if they should have had a say in whose number one.

[Turd Ferguson]

if the Utah Attorney General files a lawsuit, I will gladly give up my first name to him, as he will have earned the title of the Ultimate Turd. In this current US environment, this is what this jackhole is doing? People of Utah should insist that this assclown get fired from his job...

[just like Florida]

voting & John Kerry not bothering to follow up eh ?

[Groucho]

Ridiculous - just go to a playoff system.

[billw001]

The BCS is so freaking stupid.
Playoffs are the only way to go. Nothing else is fair.
But in reality we are talking about a lot of money the way things are, so it will probably never change.

[Turd Ferguson]

billw001 wrote:

The BCS is so freaking stupid.
Playoffs are the only way to go. Nothing else is fair.
But in reality we are talking about a lot of money the way things are, so it will probably never change.

Playoffs will render the Bowls obsolete, and do you really expect students to travel around the country from week to week to follow their school? Besides, without the Bowls, what are you going to do on New Year's Day with your hangover?

[bryts]

Turd Ferguson wrote:

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Playoffs will render the Bowls obsolete, and do you really expect students to travel around the country from week to week to follow their school? Besides, without the Bowls, what are you going to do on New Year's Day with your hangover?

I agree 100% with your first post. This is not something the government should be getting involved in.

The playoff system is already in use by lower level schools, and ALL the other major sports at division 1, so I don't buy the argument that student's wouldn't follow the teams around, since they do in those other examples.

[billw001]

Turd Ferguson wrote:

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Playoffs will render the Bowls obsolete, and do you really expect students to travel around the country from week to week to follow their school? Besides, without the Bowls, what are you going to do on New Year's Day with your hangover?

The point is, is that it is not a fair system, and not accurate at all.

If you have several teams who go undefeated, the only way to say who is best is to have them play each other.
How fair is it to have a team go undefeated and then tell them they can't be in a bowl?:(

[Matt from Columbus]

A playoff with Florida, Alabama, Utah, Texas, USC Penn St, and two wildcard teams would have resolved the nations issues. But no Texas, USC, and Utah cannot resolve this on the field (all of which can beat Florida).

[NateKnuckles]

I favor a playoff system too. This way its mano y mano to see who can get the championship. I seen the Utes and they could possibly beat Florida!

[Turd Ferguson]

Hey, we all want to see a Playoff, don't get me wrong. The lower divisions play the games at the home of the higher seed, so there will be people in the stands. If you want to use the four BCS bowls as a quarterfinal round, that could be an idea, but where are you going to have the semi-finals and final, again keeping in mind the travel and ticket costs for alumni and students? And is it fair to the higher seeded teams to have a neutral site game in the quarter-finals?

The Bowls have become such a New Year's Day tradition and a huge revenue source for colleges, I don't see the Bowl system going away. After all, what happens to events such as the Rose Bowl parade if it becomes meaningless....the parade itself has a significant economic impact on the Southern California area.

As for Utah's place in a Championship game, all i ask is that you review their results for this past season [not counting their imprssive win over Alabama, as the issue needed to be determined before the Bowls started]. Notable wins were over Michigan [?????], BYU, and Oregon State [while they defeated USC, they were also crushed by my beloved Penn State, so we don't know if Utah played Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde that day]. The rest of their conference is questionable at best. Do you mean to tell me that Utah deserved a spot in the Championship Game instead of one-loss Oklahoma from the Big 12, or one-loss Florida from the SEC? I find it hard to justify. It would behoove Utah to try and get into either the Big 12 or Pac 10.

[Dude Lofgrin]

Un friggin belivable. Utah built its perfect season, by beating powerhouse programs such as Air Force, and Fresno State. Their recruiting class was rand 60th and 65th the last 2 years.
Florida would have beaten them soundly, and USC would have DESTROYED them.I just love politicans who know nothing about college football, making asine statements.

[Turd Ferguson]

Matt from Columbus wrote:

A playoff with Florida, Alabama, Utah, Texas, USC Penn St, and two wildcard teams would have resolved the nations issues. But no Texas, USC, and Utah cannot resolve this on the field (all of which can beat Florida).

You partially picked some of these teams arbitrarily: Florida won the SEC, so Alabama would have to be wild card team. Oklahoma won the Big 12, so Texas would have to be a wild card team. USC and Penn State won their conferences, so I agree with their inclusion. If you want to include Utah as the winner of the Mountain West, then you MUST include the winners of the Big East and ACC. So, if you are suggesting an 8 team playoff, the following teams get automatic berths as conference champion:

Florida
Oklahoma
Virginia Tech
Cincinnati
Penn State
USC
Utah

That leaves you room for only one wild card team: Texas, Alabama? I contend that picking one over the other will only continue to ignite the debate. So, let's expand to a 16 team playoff? Ok, who's going to get left out? etc etc...

[Bowlgames]

You mentioned the revenue lost . My child was a half time performer at the Liberty Bowl game this year including the parade .
Revenue ..the Bowl game package included .. for my wife, child and myself ...3 tickets to the game(nose bleeders), hotel room (3nights), 3 tickets to a rodeo($10.00 tickets), bus transportation to the events , one dinner/dance party for the performers on new years eve.The kids spent most of their time at practices .
It cost us for the package $2400.I dont ven know how much more we spent on food ,gas, souveniers etc etc. I was told there were 351 cheerleaders/dancers that performed in that show and probably twice as many band kids.
Attendance was 56,000 and the stands were filled pretty much so half and half ( Kentucky 6-6 and ECU),I have to assume most of those people had rooms in Memphis for the game and ate out. I would like to know the amount of money a city makes off a bowl game.

Sidenote : I wasnt complaining about my cost ...the kids had the times of their lives .

[zazenmind]

Utah should be crown national champions, not florida or oklahoma, these two imperial powers, bought the rights, while Utah, who undeafed earned..WAKE UP..

[FYI]

Turd Ferguson wrote:

Hey, we all want to see a Playoff, don't get me wrong. The lower divisions play the games at the home of the higher seed, so there will be people in the stands. If you want to use the four BCS bowls as a quarterfinal round, that could be an idea, but where are you going to have the semi-finals and final, again keeping in mind the travel and ticket costs for alumni and students? And is it fair to the higher seeded teams to have a neutral site game in the quarter-finals?
The Bowls have become such a New Year's DaUtah won 4 games against bowl teamsy tradition and a huge revenue source for colleges, I don't see the Bowl system going away. After all, what happens to events such as the Rose Bowl parade if it becomes meaningless....the parade itself has a significant economic impact on the Southern California area.
As for Utah's place in a Championship game, all i ask is that you review their results for this past season [not counting their imprssive win over Alabama, as the issue needed to be determined before the Bowls started]. Notable wins were over Michigan [?????], BYU, and Oregon State [while they defeated USC, they were also crushed by my beloved Penn State, so we don't know if Utah played Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde that day]. The rest of their conference is questionable at best. Do you mean to tell me that Utah deserved a spot in the Championship Game instead of one-loss Oklahoma from the Big 12, or one-loss Florida from the SEC? I find it hard to justify. It would behoove Utah to try and get into either the Big 12 or Pac 10.

Utah won 4 games against bowl teams and also had 7 wins on the road. Doesnt matter who the opposing teams were, that is a tuff resume to agrue against!!!!! When will people realize these teams can play football also. Ask OU about Boise St(undefeated that year) and this is the 2nd undefeated utah team in 6years(?). These teams are getting NO respect!!!!!!

[billw001]

zazenmind wrote:

Utah should be crown national champions, not florida or oklahoma, these two imperial powers, bought the rights, while Utah, who undeafed earned..WAKE UP..

That's why we need to get rid of the BCS and have play offs. Fair for everyone.

[FYI]

Turd Ferguson wrote:

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You partially picked some of these teams arbitrarily: Florida won the SEC, so Alabama would have to be wild card team. Oklahoma won the Big 12, so Texas would have to be a wild card team. USC and Penn State won their conferences, so I agree with their inclusion. If you want to include Utah as the winner of the Mountain West, then you MUST include the winners of the Big East and ACC. So, if you are suggesting an 8 team playoff, the following teams get automatic berths as conference champion:
Florida
Oklahoma
Virginia Tech
Cincinnati
Penn State
USC
Utah
That leaves you room for only one wild card team: Texas, Alabama? I contend that picking one over the other will only continue to ignite the debate. So, let's expand to a 16 team playoff? Ok, who's going to get left out? etc etc...

To get things a little more on a level playing field playoff system or not, I believe that all conferences should a championship game OR no conference have one.

[Buckeye fan]

A playoff could easily be worked out so as to include playing games on New Years Day at the site of traditional bowls. This year in particular, an argument (pre-bowl) could have been made by at least 8 teams to get a crack at the national title. Two years ago everyone thought the Big 10 was so powerful that there was much talk of the BCS Championship Game being a rematch of the Ohio State-Michigan game. Cooler heads prevailed and Florida got its shot and we all saw the Big 10 was overrated. Being a Buckeye fan, that was a hard pill to swallow, but it was the bitter truth. This year, the overrating seems to have applied to the Big 12. Texas Tech was hammered by a mediocre Mississippi team, Texas barely got past a mediocre Buckeye team, and we all saw what happened to No. 1 and all powerful Oklahoma. An 8 team playoff would only take a couple weeks. 4 games the first weekend, 2 games the next week, and the finals a week or 10 days later. You could still have your Liberty Bowls, Motor City Bowls and so on for the teams that don't make the top 8.

[Dude Lofgrin]

zazenmind wrote:

Utah should be crown national champions, not florida or oklahoma, these two imperial powers, bought the rights, while Utah, who undeafed earned..WAKE UP..

Shakes head.

[ObamaBot]

Turd Ferguson wrote:

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Playoffs will render the Bowls obsolete, and do you really expect students to travel around the country from week to week to follow their school? Besides, without the Bowls, what are you going to do on New Year's Day with your hangover?

No they would not