Is Kobe Bryant better than Michael Jordan?

[Tmacin]

Lennon wrote:

<quoted text>HE IS STILL ON DA LAKERS!!!

Very TRUE, Enjoy while he puts that USA TEAM uniform ON, because if the LAKER sit on their butts and dont find somebody, HE IS GONE!!

[MAD ImpostR]

ERICNLA wrote:

Alright, when it comes to pure scoring, Kobe is right up there with MJ. In fact, I think Kobe developed faster than Jordan as a pure scorer just simply given the fact that Kobe had MJ to emulate. Kobe has more range on his jumper, has the penatration skilloz like Mike, and also posseses the fundlementals that Jordan had later in his career. But where Kobe isn't like Mike is the vertical (Kobe could never jump like Mike), the defense (Kobe's D has been absolutely horrible the last 3 seasons, while MJ never took a break on that end), and obviously the unwillingness to share the ball in critical junctures of the game. This is something Jordan realized he needed to do when PJ came into the Bulls picture, and this is something Kobe needs to do in order for him to further his own legacy as well as the Lakers.

you dont know sh*t do you more range then Jordan get your balls out of Kobe's mouth before he denies it even happened. one on one Jordan would own kobe period. defensively Jordan is way better general offensively players always take a step back on d vs jordan because he will blow by you and if your too far back he'l' shoot the jay in your face right or left handed! there has not been a more classy guy in the NBA like Jordan either hes a great ambassador of the game like Gretzky and lemeuix in hockey and montana in the NFL baseball??? wows theres a toughy hmmm baseball baseball i have no clue i would have to pick i guess would Cal "ironman" Ripkin. Kobe is a joke and his finher pointing blaming everyone else, my sh*it dont stink attitude makes him look foolish, even youth i work dont like him anymore because of the great role model he has become pfffttt.

[Showtime]

lakers355s wrote:

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sounds like a plan: we'll continue to make fun of you and you can keep thinking it's a good thing!
perhaps if you simply proofread your posts... er sorry, got your LITTLE BROTHER to proofread your comments, others would take you more seriously and you'd in turn have more credibility?...just a thought. it's just how the world works omar- i'd think someone with your 'maturity' would have learned that by now.

LOL...Maturity my A$$ how many times is he gonna remind us hes gonna ignore such behavior before he actually does it.

[Showtime]

ERICNLA wrote:

Alright, when it comes to pure scoring, Kobe is right up there with MJ. In fact, I think Kobe developed faster than Jordan as a pure scorer just simply given the fact that Kobe had MJ to emulate. Kobe has more range on his jumper, has the penatration skilloz like Mike, and also posseses the fundlementals that Jordan had later in his career. But where Kobe isn't like Mike is the vertical (Kobe could never jump like Mike), the defense (Kobe's D has been absolutely horrible the last 3 seasons, while MJ never took a break on that end), and obviously the unwillingness to share the ball in critical junctures of the game. This is something Jordan realized he needed to do when PJ came into the Bulls picture, and this is something Kobe needs to do in order for him to further his own legacy as well as the Lakers.

I agree with just about everything you said, I always said skills wise kobe is right there hes as good if not a better scorer than MJ, but still I have to put MJ ahead of kobe because overall his decision making is better, he knew how to talk to his teamates, when to take over and when to backoff kobe has not learned that, but I do disagree with you saying hes unwilling to pass the ball, if it works he plays within the system if it doesnt he does what any leader with his capability should do take over, with this team he has to do it more often than not thats why hes upset right now, I watch every lakers game so I know hes willing to pass when his team is contributing.

[MarkL5]

Is Kobe Bryant better than Michael Jordan?

No.

That compairison will be better answered when Bryant's career is over. Is is not over yet.

[Tmacin]

MarkL5 wrote:

Is Kobe Bryant better than Michael Jordan?
No.
That compairison will be better answered when Bryant's career is over. Is is not over yet.

The number of Rings also will play a factor here when this is all said and done.

[omar]

lakers355s wrote:

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sounds like a plan: we'll continue to make fun of you and you can keep thinking it's a good thing!
perhaps if you simply proofread your posts... er sorry, got your LITTLE BROTHER to proofread your comments, others would take you more seriously and you'd in turn have more credibility?...just a thought. it's just how the world works omar- i'd think someone with your 'maturity' would have learned that by now.

I don’t have to proof read anything. Once again, there are no grades in here. So what’s the point?‘‘Er is not a word. But I know what you mean so I wouldn’t try and make horrible jokes about it that’s not even funny. Guess that’s where maturity comes in to place. How old are you 30? And you haven’t developed it yet. Sucks for you. And I don’t have a little brother im the youngest. You don’t have to take me serious I don’t ask you to I don’t expect you to. You’re not mature enough. I guess your mind hasn’t caught up with your age yet. People like you who get on peoples nerves and bother people for no reason when they tell you not to talk to them. And continue to disrespect others. Get killed. That’s how the world works. But maybe your hidden somewhere where it’s nothing but old people stay there and hope you don’t go to a city talking the way you do. Do it to the wrong person you wont live for long. Just a thought to think about. Catch up with your age. But anyways that’s 100% correct no proof reading no going back that’s me again tying faster then you could ever and without looking and soon as I was one I hit post. But this time I actually tried to spell correct. Just for the haters who try so0 hard to find something to talk about. Haters find anything so im sure you’re going to find something else but I expect that from a hater and someone on your level (immature) so it doesn’t get to me .because it’s expected from you now. So go ahead hate on. Make me more famous I dare you =]

[omar]

Showtime wrote:

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LOL...Maturity my A$$ how many times is he gonna remind us hes gonna ignore such behavior before he actually does it.

i always tell you to stop talking to and about me and i will ignore you i always do but for some reason i dont care some days and feed in to your imature little games wich i played when i was 5 to so0 dont be to madd.but ok stop talking to me for now on and ull get ignored for now on..dont even respond bc its worthless.kindof like your comments so yea dont talk to me and i wont talk to you ok?

[Showtime]

omar wrote:

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i always tell you to stop talking to and about me and i will ignore you i always do but for some reason i dont care some days and feed in to your imature little games wich i played when i was 5 to so0 dont be to madd.but ok stop talking to me for now on and ull get ignored for now on..dont even respond bc its worthless.kindof like your comments so yea dont talk to me and i wont talk to you ok?

AHAHAHAHAHA you keep adding fuel to the fire, its hilarious how you wont follow your own advice and ignore people, your not a bad guy omar its just its too funny how you keep bitching and whining about the same thing, and we dont have to make you famous your accomplishing looking like a moron all by yourself, and you werent exactly mature in another forum were you started calling me all kinds of names so stop this maturity crap cause your not as mature as you pretend to be, you want people to feel sorry for you in here or what? and please stop making us laugh go back to talking about basketball cause I cant take anymore its too funny, and btw I wasnt even talking to you.

[Kobe is 1]

HAHAHAHAHA...omar man, just stop talkin dude...im sorry this is just a little forum where we talk basketball, i highly doubt u are gonna become famous! i think ur just as 'immature' as the rest of these guys cos u keep reponding saying u are soo 'mature'. mate a true sign of maturity is to able to take a little joke about somfin, in this case it was ur spelling. for god sake man its spelling, i choose not to spell properly but i dont care man. for god sake a 19 yr old is tellin how to be mature. trust me i aint mature yet. ur just being hypocritical about everything u say. PLEASE stop with this famous crap. for god sake, this is nott gonna go on sportcenter or some shit.

[lakers355s]

omar wrote:

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I don’t have to proof read anything. Once again, there are no grades in here. So what’s the point?‘‘Er is not a word. But I know what you mean so I wouldn’t try and make horrible jokes about it that’s not even funny. Guess that’s where maturity comes in to place. How old are you 30? And you haven’t developed it yet. Sucks for you. And I don’t have a little brother im the youngest. You don’t have to take me serious I don’t ask you to I don’t expect you to. You’re not mature enough. I guess your mind hasn’t caught up with your age yet. People like you who get on peoples nerves and bother people for no reason when they tell you not to talk to them. And continue to disrespect others. Get killed. That’s how the world works. But maybe your hidden somewhere where it’s nothing but old people stay there and hope you don’t go to a city talking the way you do. Do it to the wrong person you wont live for long. Just a thought to think about. Catch up with your age. But anyways that’s 100% correct no proof reading no going back that’s me again tying faster then you could ever and without looking and soon as I was one I hit post. But this time I actually tried to spell correct. Just for the haters who try so0 hard to find something to talk about. Haters find anything so im sure you’re going to find something else but I expect that from a hater and someone on your level (immature) so it doesn’t get to me .because it’s expected from you now. So go ahead hate on. Make me more famous I dare you =]

well done. i'm glad you took my advice. not only do you sound more intelligent, but also your meaning/intent of what you were trying to say is more easily understood.

as for 'er': it IS a word that is used to express hesitation or uncertainty. here's a link - http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Er
nice try though.

i love how you get all thugged out and worry that i'll talk shit to the wrong person and get killed. haha, that makes me laugh. i'm very blunt, i speak my mind and don't have a problem with calling out/clowning on people. i have no problems doing that in person or on the computer. if you saw me in person you'd understand it better and you wouldn't worry about me handling myself in the least.

[omar]

o0 thnk u i guess.im don eiwth the bullshit arguing.but i dont get ''thuged out'' im just sure u couldnt say or talk about sombody the wrong way period..idc how tough or buff or big you think you are.and im not just sayin that bc its u ,i dont do it either ik who and what to say o someone and at the rite time..somthigns is just better off not said to som people..thats al im trying to say im not threating you or anything im just being dead ass serious.round here you just couldnt get away with that no matter who your are, people over here just dont care and will kill u in a heart beat.4 people just was on the news for getting killed one bc he talked about his mom.some and he didnt kno she was dead.so he got shot in the head..but i know those people so0 thats how i got the inside info..news dont rele tell u things liek that .point blank period.thats just what i was trying to get across .things u sed to me is u would say that to som people are here to there face they will kill u period just to get a point across.and if they cant get you they ge tthe closet person to you..thats just reality,just a thought for you to think about.but you live somwhere where i know its mostly older people most likely so0 thats why it doesnt occur to you.but other places is diff. and things you say som place may not be wrong but in another place somone will kill you for it.but dont think to much of your self..dont say the wrong thing to the wrong person.i just seen to many people pay for it and i dont like it even tho i dont get along with u i still dont like seeing people die..but anyway sthats over dead it

[lakers355s]

omar wrote:

o0 thnk u i guess.im don eiwth the bullshit arguing.but i dont get ''thuged out'' im just sure u couldnt say or talk about sombody the wrong way period..idc how tough or buff or big you think you are.and im not just sayin that bc its u ,i dont do it either ik who and what to say o someone and at the rite time..somthigns is just better off not said to som people..thats al im trying to say im not threating you or anything im just being dead ass serious.round here you just couldnt get away with that no matter who your are, people over here just dont care and will kill u in a heart beat.4 people just was on the news for getting killed one bc he talked about his mom.some and he didnt kno she was dead.so he got shot in the head..but i know those people so0 thats how i got the inside info..news dont rele tell u things liek that .point blank period.thats just what i was trying to get across .things u sed to me is u would say that to som people are here to there face they will kill u period just to get a point across.and if they cant get you they ge tthe closet person to you..thats just reality,just a thought for you to think about.but you live somwhere where i know its mostly older people most likely so0 thats why it doesnt occur to you.but other places is diff. and things you say som place may not be wrong but in another place somone will kill you for it.but dont think to much of your self..dont say the wrong thing to the wrong person.i just seen to many people pay for it and i dont like it even tho i dont get along with u i still dont like seeing people die..but anyway sthats over dead it

okay there, thanks for the advice. maybe you should write a rap about your experiences : D

i'm not oblivious to the fact that there are people out there who will kill you for no reason. i grew up in the 80's in LA (you know, the gang capital of the US) and i've worked for many years with several wannabe gangbangers and their families.

anyways, what happened to your proofreading??? i struggled throughout that trant of yours to try and decipher meaning!

[lakers355s]

not 'trant', i meant rant.

[patman]

http://www.ucc.vt.edu/stdysk/proofing.html

im here to help you omar. he is your nexts step to speak like a human.

[Showtime]

omar wrote:

o0 thnk u i guess.im don eiwth the bullshit arguing.but i dont get ''thuged out'' im just sure u couldnt say or talk about sombody the wrong way period..idc how tough or buff or big you think you are.and im not just sayin that bc its u ,i dont do it either ik who and what to say o someone and at the rite time..somthigns is just better off not said to som people..thats al im trying to say im not threating you or anything im just being dead ass serious.round here you just couldnt get away with that no matter who your are, people over here just dont care and will kill u in a heart beat.4 people just was on the news for getting killed one bc he talked about his mom.some and he didnt kno she was dead.so he got shot in the head..but i know those people so0 thats how i got the inside info..news dont rele tell u things liek that .point blank period.thats just what i was trying to get across .things u sed to me is u would say that to som people are here to there face they will kill u period just to get a point across.and if they cant get you they ge tthe closet person to you..thats just reality,just a thought for you to think about.but you live somwhere where i know its mostly older people most likely so0 thats why it doesnt occur to you.but other places is diff. and things you say som place may not be wrong but in another place somone will kill you for it.but dont think to much of your self..dont say the wrong thing to the wrong person.i just seen to many people pay for it and i dont like it even tho i dont get along with u i still dont like seeing people die..but anyway sthats over dead it

Old people?? obviously you dont know shit about LA, we probably live in a better spot than you do but there is still plenty of crime here, if you think people are gonna take shit talking around here your dead wrong, I guess someone got mad because your taking it to another level this is just a little basketball forum stop comparing what is said here to what happens in the streets.

[lakers355s]

patman wrote:

http://www.ucc.vt.edu/stdysk/p roofing.html
im here to help you omar. he is your nexts step to speak like a human.

excellent link patman...

[LMS]

To all kobe fan,
What has he done for you lately?
It must be hard to be a Kobe fan. You have to fight for him for all the dramas he brings and in the end, he gives nothing back. Would you feel like a fool? if after all this bad years of supporting him and he returns nada. I mean, it's been eleven years and here we are saying he going to break out anytime soon. I don't care if he's still young, there's alot of mileage in him and I believe you've seen the best from him. He knows it himself, this is why he can't wait for another two-three years. Be honest, Lakers have no shot next year. So this means twelve years on Kobe, that's alot of miles on him. Good luck to Kobe, but he will not even come close to Jordan's accomplishment. Remember MJ only play 15 seasons, two of which he only played 17 games, which mean he only played 13 seasons really. Also he retired twice. Which mean Kobe has aproximately 2 years to match Mj accomplishment. So here what Kobe needs to do in the next two years to match MJ.
Win 5 MVP,
Win 6 Finals MVP,
Lead the league in scoring 8 more times,
Win Defensive Player of the year,I can go on and on and on, but then again Kobe has only two years. Let's wait for Lebron maybe he will do better. Peace, Oh yea Go Lakers, I'm ready to rebuild. Trade Kobe for a new young leader. All the drama just for first round appearance is not worth it. I want to watch more games, not someone trying to be better than someone else.

[patman]

lakers355s wrote:

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excellent link patman...

If i had arms to stretch to LA i would hi 5 you.

[MarkL5]

Kobe will not win six rings.

But in a team sport, the number of championships you win say more about the talent around you than how good you are.

Michael Jordan was a prototypical athlete that came along AFTER other protypical athletes. Magic Johnson was already a superstar, as was Larry Bird, and Dr. J.

Jordan eclipsed all of them.

Jordan not only influenced the way the game was played, he became mainstream in the American conciousness. The bald head, the big shorts the shoes we willingly paid a hundred bucks for. Michael Jordan set the standard that all ball players behind him will be judged for.

Including Kobe Bean Bryant.

You cannot compare the two because Jordan is the benchmark and Bryant would have to be as big a commercial and cultural success and icon as Michael Jordan to be considered better. Jordan's social relevence makes him Babe Ruth, makes him Jim Brown. You can name athletes in their sport who are near him but Michael Jordan is part mythic.

Five year-old kids know who Jordan is.

Bobby Knight says that Jordan is the best player he has ever coached.

Michael Jordan is a once in a millenium athlete not because he won championships, and MVP awards, but because those who don't know basketball KNOW Michael Jordan, those who didn't watch basketball WATCHED Michael Jordan.

This is not just about stats and championships won. The NBA grew because of Michael Jordan. Basketball INTERNATIONALLY grew because of Michael Jordan. Jordan may be the most infleuentual player in the history of the game.

Is Kobe Bryant better than Michael? No.

It will take a long time before we see anyone advance the art of basketball like Jordan. He is a transendant athlete, and athlete who defined an era in sport. An era that we are still in because Jordan's influence is still very much alive and covers every ball player that lives, from 10 to 30 years old.

We are still asking "Is he the next Jordan."

He is the standard by which all others are judged, including Kobe Bryant.