Soccer team banned from local field for lack of permit

Full story: Vallejo Times-Herald

A school soccer field has become the latest battleground for Vallejo parents and school district officials.

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honky tonk

Sebastopol, CA

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Oct 25, 2008
 
thats BS!!
honky tonk

Sebastopol, CA

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Oct 25, 2008
 
wait a minute! the use of the field is way less costly than having these kids run amok. its better to let them use the field than pay police, prisons, and grief when kids do not have a place to participate in sports programs.
buzz zoff

San Bruno, CA

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Oct 25, 2008
 
i support the police unconditionally and hope they continue to unload their LEGAL weapons at any punk of any age, color, or creed that has pointed their ILLEGAL weapon at our remaining police officers. we cannot afford to lose any more officers for any reason.
Vallejo Parent of 3

Vallejo, CA

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Oct 25, 2008
 
buzz zoff wrote:
i support the police unconditionally and hope they continue to unload their LEGAL weapons at any punk of any age, color, or creed that has pointed their ILLEGAL weapon at our remaining police officers. we cannot afford to lose any more officers for any reason.
8 year old kids playing soccer do not carry weapons. Perhaps you want to post to a different article. Your posting here makes no sense.
Vallejo Parent of 3

Vallejo, CA

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Oct 25, 2008
 
It seems the enlight of numerous complaints this week the school district has changed it's policy to a free pass for two hours per day. There were several witnesses to the fact that the school district's employee,Greg Billie, stated that the permit costs a couple hundred dollars and that the district needed the funds since the bankruptsy. This is not the first time he has threatened parents and children with this. I spoke with a little league coach who stated that he was told at the end of last baseball season by the same individual from the school district that he would have to buy a permit from the school district. Since Ms. Oraboni has nothing to do but cruise around town on week nights and tell her henchman to go talk to parents and children practicing organized sport, she should be posting signs with the information on them to avoid misinformation being stated by Billie. The two of them are the reason the parents were so offended by the school district. Perhaps the Superintendent would have the two of them drive around now and apologize not only to the parents in person, but to the children they deemed unworthy to play on the fields. This would show the children that even those adults who put themselves in a self serving powerful positions make mistakes and then rectify the problem with apologies...after all we are telling our children in school to be Peacebuilders, perhaps the district and it's employees should practice that also.

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Since: Apr 08

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Oct 25, 2008
 
Well, I guess the fields are being kept away from the very people that pay for them. The upkeep is paid in taxes.

I wonder where they should go play?

I wonder about the ones who cannot afford the $$$.

The city is fining the citizens to death over the most petty of things. THATS really going to increase revenue, lol.

Somebody has a priority issue and its not the kids or parents.
Vallejo Mom of 2

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Oct 25, 2008
 
Thanks for bringing this to light so everyone knows about it!
Saul Goode

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#9
Oct 25, 2008
 
This is all Gomes fault.

Since: Oct 08

Chengdu, China

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Oct 25, 2008
 
Many friends I met on a sports dating site ==mysportsdate.com== say support the police unconditionally and hope they continue to unload their LEGAL weapons at any punk of any age, color, or creed that has pointed their ILLEGAL weapon at our remaining police officers.
GEE

Pleasanton, CA

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#11
Oct 25, 2008
 
Maybe I do not understand the logistics of all this. Aren't these players Vallejo schoolchildren who have free use of the grassy areas/soccer fields during school hours?
Why are they not able to use these areas after school hours, also for free? Are they now, because they are organized into a team, professional players, whose parents or the Police Activities League can be gauged by the VCUSD for additional funds?

A simple human is correct, it is not about the children anymore, if it were, they would be able to play free of charge. Watch out, recess may become another moneymaker pretty soon.

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Since: Jul 08

Lafayette, California

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Oct 25, 2008
 
I guarantee you Ms. Oraboni did not drive by and see this activity; Greg Billie took it upon himself to flex and tell a group of people what to do. Ms. Oraboni is just protecting him, the guy is so full of himself and looks waaaay down on others. Took the management position to his head, sad. We have had experience with this guy telling us he was going to call the police if we did not leave the baseball fields. We did not know we needed a permit and he was truly very rude while representing the district.

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Since: Apr 08

Vallejo

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#13
Oct 26, 2008
 
It is a known fact that kids that are involved in sports fare far better than kids that are not. Additionally, girls involved in sports have far fewer teen pregnancies. I would have to search for both studies, but they were done.

Organized, or even unorganized sports such as the skateboarding at Wardlaw Park, are essential to our kids.

That the city asks organized sports leagues to pay for the use of fields, well, that says much of our city, and much of the attitudes that brought our city to the state we are in now.

People complain, and complain about the youth of our city.... folks.... most of the youth of our city and the parents cannot afford the extras that we had as kids that formed us into what we are today (that is if we took advantage of those opportunities).

There is an article in today's TH about paying for field trips. Again, I question the priorities of our city, indeed society. The very children, the at risk children, that would benefit most, cannot afford such luxuries (sp).

The basketball hoop on the cul-de-sac, the basketball hoop on the street where I have my house (not mon's) in a very interesting area, you have all heard me talk of "my" drug dealer, lol, and the shootings in my neighborhood, those kids that used that hoop, we all ages, all colors, all creeds, and all at risk. My street isn't even wide enough for a street sweeper and there are so many cars, the sweeper can't get to the curb anyway, except of course where the hoop was. The parents knew where the kids were, who they were with, it was a focal point for pulling parents, and adults out for pick-up with the neighbors, in short something that holds our society together. A small part, but the loss of each little piece that brings us all together .... you do the reasoning, if you can.

I don't see a lot of adult sport teams around either. What about softball? You have no time you say... you don't know the people on the teams you say. No wonder we grow further apart as a people as a nation. Polarization. Race, creed, religion, immigrant, language. We have such magnificent opportunities to learn from what is different from us, to step from our comfort zone and grow.

Back to the sports fields, the basketball hoops, shame, shame on Vallejo... you have bigger fish to fry than our children and the parents.

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Oct 26, 2008
 
parental involvement wrote:
I guarantee you Ms. Oraboni did not drive by and see this activity; Greg Billie took it upon himself to flex and tell a group of people what to do. Ms. Oraboni is just protecting him, the guy is so full of himself and looks waaaay down on others. Took the management position to his head, sad. We have had experience with this guy telling us he was going to call the police if we did not leave the baseball fields. We did not know we needed a permit and he was truly very rude while representing the district.
Fire him. We are broke. We already have enough people that we pay the salaries for that look down on the citizens they are supposed to serve. There is no excuse and I am sure this is not the first time this issue with this man has come up, it is simply the first time the situation has come to the attention to the public at large. I don't want to pay him, I don't want him near our children, do you?
Pat Nelson

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Oct 26, 2008
 
Maybe the school district would not have to charge for use of the fields, if they used the resources available to them more appropriately. A recent news story told of the $1 million spent by the California Teachers Assoc on the support of No on Prop 8. Are the interests of a small group of citizens who have chosen a life style generally not accepted in society more important than the children?? If the California Teachers Association has that kind of money to spend on politics, surely the school district could get more than enough money to cover what ever extra costs are incurred from the playing of soccer by the very kids they supposedly support.
Vallejo Parent of 3

Vallejo, CA

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Oct 26, 2008
 
Pat Nelson wrote:
Maybe the school district would not have to charge for use of the fields, if they used the resources available to them more appropriately. A recent news story told of the $1 million spent by the California Teachers Assoc on the support of No on Prop 8. Are the interests of a small group of citizens who have chosen a life style generally not accepted in society more important than the children?? If the California Teachers Association has that kind of money to spend on politics, surely the school district could get more than enough money to cover what ever extra costs are incurred from the playing of soccer by the very kids they supposedly support.
You are confusing a union, California Teachers Association, with a school district, VUSD. Two different things and money from two different areas. Also, this has nothing to do with prop 8, which by the way I'm voting no on.
Personally, I see Prop 8 as just one more way to restrict the rights of people...what maybe it does apply to the use of the fields as the school district is trying to restrict the rights of children playing organized sports, which could be viewed as a small group of citizens in our town.
JudgeJudy

Fremont, CA

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#17
Oct 26, 2008
 
First our hoops and now our school playgrounds.
Soccer

Kingsport, TN

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#18
Oct 26, 2008
 
Someone forgot the GRAFT.
jrt

Vallejo, CA

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#19
Oct 30, 2008
 
For every site you need a permit-------maybe Pal was getting the permits without the coaches knowing.

ALso sites that have After school programs are unavailable until 5:30 pm.

Free or a little bit of money-------always get proper information. Schools are not just a park to go hang out at.
jrt

Vallejo, CA

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#20
Oct 30, 2008
 
Maybe the schools should print information with the Facilities numbers to how teams and parents rent facilities in their weekly or monthly Newsletter for a few months.

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