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The Cavaliers lost for the 13th time in the last 14 years against the Hokies as they fell 17-14 at Lane Stadium.
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Nov 25, 2012
 
"UVA Football Uses Loss at Virginia Tech to Power Forward".

Huh?? Quite the imaginative and/or confusing headline/title.
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Nov 26, 2012
 
Coaches Lazor and London are not qualified to wash dishes at golden corral .Horrendous coaches who couldn't, coach their way out if paper bag.
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#3
Nov 26, 2012
 
Al Groh doesnt look like such a bad coach after all. Can you say coaching change? What about a new AD?
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Nov 26, 2012
 
confused wrote:
Al Groh doesnt look like such a bad coach after all. Can you say coaching change? What about a new AD?
Due to the $2M buyout, I bet London is the coach until 2014. Which, IMO, is the right amount of time. It's UVA, not OSU, ND, OU, Texas, Alabama, or 'SC. Those teams will always have the talent to win, UVA, not so much.
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Nov 26, 2012
 
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<quoted text> Due to the $2M buyout, I bet London is the coach until 2014. Which, IMO, is the right amount of time. It's UVA, not OSU, ND, OU, Texas, Alabama, or 'SC. Those teams will always have the talent to win, UVA, not so much.
Coach Welsh and AD Copeland got things done with less talent. Time for a shake up.
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Nov 26, 2012
 
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Coach Welsh and AD Copeland got things done with less talent. Time for a shake up.
Welsh was 3-8 in his fifth year at UVA, had a marginally better record in his first three years over London, and never won the ACC outright. Beamer OTOH, had a much worse record than either of those two during his first five years and competed for a national championship. A program that is always in transition never has a chance to develop. Calling for his head in year three is premature, it's not like UVA gets the recruits that top tier, or even second tier programs get, or even bottom rung SEC teams get.
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If he doesn't get results next year, hot seat, the year after, then call for his head. There are often stumbling blocks on the way to building a successful program.
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Nov 26, 2012
 
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<quoted text> Due to the $2M buyout, I bet London is the coach until 2014. Which, IMO, is the right amount of time. It's UVA, not OSU, ND, OU, Texas, Alabama, or 'SC. Those teams will always have the talent to win, UVA, not so much.
You are probably right about London staying until 2014. However, with London's annual salary being more than $2.5 million (with a potential for an additional $750K bonus according to a recently published USA Today Sports database)- which ranks as the 19th highest among the NCAA's 124 top level football coaches - the UVA fan has the right to expect regular, respectable, decent/winning seasons and maybe a win over VT once in a while. By no means do I suggest that UVA football ignore academic standards in favor of a BCS championship pursuit...just suggesting they bring some respectability to the program. By the way, London's stated salary is higher than Frank Beamer's, Brian Kelly's (Notre Dame), Lane Kiffin (Sothern Cal), Bill Snyder (Kansas State), Dabo Swinney (Clemson).........and the list goes on. In addition, London is the second highest paid ACC head coach behind Jimbo Fisher (Florida State).

London's credentials and results donít match or warrant his salary. Time to cut him (and Littlepage) loose, find a real coach, and bring some respect to the UVA program.
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Nov 26, 2012
 
Sports Fan wrote:
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You are probably right about London staying until 2014. However, with London's annual salary being more than $2.5 million (with a potential for an additional $750K bonus according to a recently published USA Today Sports database)- which ranks as the 19th highest among the NCAA's 124 top level football coaches - the UVA fan has the right to expect regular, respectable, decent/winning seasons and maybe a win over VT once in a while. By no means do I suggest that UVA football ignore academic standards in favor of a BCS championship pursuit...just suggesting they bring some respectability to the program. By the way, London's stated salary is higher than Frank Beamer's, Brian Kelly's (Notre Dame), Lane Kiffin (Sothern Cal), Bill Snyder (Kansas State), Dabo Swinney (Clemson).........and the list goes on. In addition, London is the second highest paid ACC head coach behind Jimbo Fisher (Florida State).
London's credentials and results donít match or warrant his salary. Time to cut him (and Littlepage) loose, find a real coach, and bring some respect to the UVA program.
You may be right about the salary, but it is what it is. London was the flavor of the year in terms of coaches, and UVA reached out with an offer that other schools, including a couple of SEC schools, would compete for. This year is not the year to seek a coach, with three SEC teams looking to hire new coaching staffs, UVA would have to compete for fourth best along with ACC rivals NC state, and B.C.; among other BCS conference PAC 12 CU, Big 10 Purdue. It's not likely UVA would a better coach for a cheaper deal. Let's face it, after Mark Stoops, Kirby Smart, and Josh Heupel, the other teams will be throwing lucrative contracts at James Coley, Mark Helfrich, and Chuck Martin. It's unlikely that Shawn Watson would take a second or third tier team for less than $2M.
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Nov 26, 2012
 

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Coaches Lazor and London are not qualified to wash dishes at golden corral .Horrendous coaches who couldn't, coach their way out if paper bag.
The play calling SUCKED. Fire the offensive coordinator, if anyone!
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Nov 26, 2012
 
its like this if we want to compete offer different types of degrees(ralph sampson-communications no longer offered)give the players the support all other teams in football offers tutors and such,lower the standard to that of what the ncaa requires(uva has higher standard)and then we can be on a level playing field as everyone else.football is the sport most universitys get publicity which lead to other great things for there school.this attitude of uva no lowering standards is silly.I say this because uva pumps millions into new fields NEW indoor facility,jpj.uva spends the money on football with the facilities coaches we might as well compete LOWER THE STANDARD FOR THE PLAYERS PLZ.the other side is if we dont then pull outta div1 drop down to a lower division BE A PUBLIC HARVARD WHERE SPORTS DONT MATTER AND STOP WASTING MONEY ON THESE FACILITIES AND COACHES AND BE HAPPY WINNING IN A LOWER DIVISION.
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Nov 26, 2012
 
WAHOOWA wrote:
its like this if we want to compete offer different types of degrees(ralph sampson-communications no longer offered)give the players the support all other teams in football offers tutors and such,lower the standard to that of what the ncaa requires(uva has higher standard)and then we can be on a level playing field as everyone else.football is the sport most universitys get publicity which lead to other great things for there school.this attitude of uva no lowering standards is silly.I say this because uva pumps millions into new fields NEW indoor facility,jpj.uva spends the money on football with the facilities coaches we might as well compete LOWER THE STANDARD FOR THE PLAYERS PLZ.the other side is if we dont then pull outta div1 drop down to a lower division BE A PUBLIC HARVARD WHERE SPORTS DONT MATTER AND STOP WASTING MONEY ON THESE FACILITIES AND COACHES AND BE HAPPY WINNING IN A LOWER DIVISION.
I read an article a couple of years back where while UVA still has one of the highest academic standards for student athletes in Div-1a, it also has one of the highest disparies between student body and student athletes admissions.
http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/paper-t...
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Nov 26, 2012
 
Universities are institutions for advanced learning, if an athlete wants to play ball at a school that has a successful team fine, go play there, but lowering admittance standards for athletes is akin to no child left behind. It serves no good purpose in the long run.
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Nov 27, 2012
 
thinking free wrote:
Universities are institutions for advanced learning, if an athlete wants to play ball at a school that has a successful team fine, go play there, but lowering admittance standards for athletes is akin to no child left behind. It serves no good purpose in the long run.
It does serve a purpose it brings money and recognition to the university which allows the university to build bigger and better facilities for students,it attacts faculty to wanna teach here.not to mention the acc as a conference is more than just sports its a group of universitys that work together.lets watch an see if the conference implodes an see where we whined up with tight budgets and alone.football is bigggggggggggg money lets compete im saying it will benifit us in the long run,cause i dont see budgets getten bigger from the state.
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Nov 27, 2012
 
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It does serve a purpose it brings money and recognition to the university which allows the university to build bigger and better facilities for students,it attacts faculty to wanna teach here.not to mention the acc as a conference is more than just sports its a group of universitys that work together.lets watch an see if the conference implodes an see where we whined up with tight budgets and alone.football is bigggggggggggg money lets compete im saying it will benifit us in the long run,cause i dont see budgets getten bigger from the state.
I'm pretty sure UVA did just fine from 1819 to 2000ish (when BCS and football dollar hysteria exploded).

Stop drinking the Kool Aid. Look at all the wonderful facilities and stadiums at our nation's universities. How many have been built in the last 10 years? GET ME POINT!
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Nov 27, 2012
 
argh!
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Nov 27, 2012
 
bcs wrote:
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really how much spent on the jpj,indoor traing facility,upper deck on stadium.all this so we could have a world class faclities with poor sports teams.are facilities im sure rank with the sec.who has better revenue sports sec or acc POINT. stop spending money on things if your not going to compete.spend on new faculty and staff BE THE HARVARD OF PUBLIC SCHOOLS fine by me but dont waste money just so you can say we built it.the point of 1819 to now geeze really ya think the economy is getten better ya think the state is going to have more funds for the state schools really what world you liven in keswick perhaps maybe farmington.why do you think maryland left they cut alot of sports no money for them.
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#17
Nov 27, 2012
 
I admire the optimism of the UVA athletes. With this in mind, they deserve to be coached right. The coaching team looks lost with poor judgement. This is not fair to the players who I believe are talented. M. London is a good guy, visible and involved with UVA and Charlottesville communities but HEAD coaching a football team might to be too big for him to handle. The UVA players are ready to move forward...but do they have the right people to lead and guide them?
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Nov 29, 2012
 
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You are probably right about London staying until 2014. However, with London's annual salary being more than $2.5 million (with a potential for an additional $750K bonus according to a recently published USA Today Sports database)- which ranks as the 19th highest among the NCAA's 124 top level football coaches - the UVA fan has the right to expect regular, respectable, decent/winning seasons and maybe a win over VT once in a while. By no means do I suggest that UVA football ignore academic standards in favor of a BCS championship pursuit...just suggesting they bring some respectability to the program. By the way, London's stated salary is higher than Frank Beamer's, Brian Kelly's (Notre Dame), Lane Kiffin (Sothern Cal), Bill Snyder (Kansas State), Dabo Swinney (Clemson).........and the list goes on. In addition, London is the second highest paid ACC head coach behind Jimbo Fisher (Florida State).
London's credentials and results donít match or warrant his salary. Time to cut him (and Littlepage) loose, find a real coach, and bring some respect to the UVA program.
Someone that finally understands this. Yes, I was blown away when I heard how much London was going to make. It would be one thing if he had been a well established head coach but he only spent 2 years at Richmond coaching someone else's players. His salary should have been lower and increased as the team became successful. UVA's spending practices have gotten the athletic department in many struggles over the years. They had to pay out the last 2 Mens BBall coaches, and they are paying a large sum of Al Groh's salary (Groh was hired by GT at ~$75,000 - 100,000/year) leaving UVA to pick up the $900,000 or so left over. Most of that money is coming from Boosters but still, how many coaches is UVA going to pay to go work somewhere else or to coach against you. Who ever signs the contract extensions is an idiot (Littlepaige).

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