Who will the Detroit Piston take in the 2009 NBA draft?

Jan 23, 2009 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Flint Journal

The NBA draft is my favorite sporting event. Maybe that makes me lame but I enjoy the drama, discourse and smell of hope and change in the air on draft day.

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May 19, 2009
 
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Sorry didn't know you were a Spurs fan. But honestly if the Spurs want to win a championship they are going to have to get a better bench since they no longer have guys like Robert Horry and Michael Finely (not 100% shore on him though). And as much as I kind of hate to say it they are on the right track in the NBA draft. So maybe just maybe if the Spurs can get a few more good draft picks they might have one more championship up their sleeves. And as for the Pacer you can say what you want about them, but either way you look at it they deserved a championship in 2005 more then both the Spurs and the Stolen Pistons who turned all their fans into convicts. And as for the Stolen Pistons who turned all their fans into convicts, lets just say their championship days are going to be over for a long time just like the 18*andDONEwithoutCHEATING gay team Patriots and the Yankees. And as for the Pacers, well if they luck out tomarrow in the lottery and get Blake Griffen then they may win a few championships and become a dynasty just like the Spurs. But honestly I highly doubt the Pacers win the draft lotto and get Blake Griffen.
I have just always considered the Spurs my second team behind the Bulls just because I liked them in 98' and was really rooting for them to win it in 99'. So yes, I did kind of jump on the bandwagon a little bit. As for their current bench, they still have Finley but he's not what he used to be though. As for the rest of it, they had Ginobli coming off as the sixth man, plus Drew Gooden who I hope they bring back, Oberto and Kurt Thomas are good defenders, and George Hill might actually be something good.

Sorry, but the Pacers in no way deserved a championship in 05' if you ask me. I have nothing against them, but I didn't think they anywhere near the talent as the Spurs and Pistons that year. To me, O'Neal and Artest made that team what it was, which was decent.

We all know that the Pistons championship are done and over with for a while. They just need to blow that whole team up except for Afflalo and Stuckey. I don't know if the Yankees are done winning, especially after the money they spent in the offseason. And I really do hope the Patriots are done.

As for the draft, it will interesting to see who gets Blake Griffin.
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I have just always considered the Spurs my second team behind the Bulls just because I liked them in 98' and was really rooting for them to win it in 99'. So yes, I did kind of jump on the bandwagon a little bit. As for their current bench, they still have Finley but he's not what he used to be though. As for the rest of it, they had Ginobli coming off as the sixth man, plus Drew Gooden who I hope they bring back, Oberto and Kurt Thomas are good defenders, and George Hill might actually be something good.
Sorry, but the Pacers in no way deserved a championship in 05' if you ask me. I have nothing against them, but I didn't think they anywhere near the talent as the Spurs and Pistons that year. To me, O'Neal and Artest made that team what it was, which was decent.
We all know that the Pistons championship are done and over with for a while. They just need to blow that whole team up except for Afflalo and Stuckey. I don't know if the Yankees are done winning, especially after the money they spent in the offseason. And I really do hope the Patriots are done.
As for the draft, it will interesting to see who gets Blake Griffin.
1.OK, just so you know I was for the Bulls first in the NBA playoffs since the Pacers did not make it. I remember the early Jordan Championship days, he was the face of professional sports in Indiana back in those days even though the state of Indiana recognised that he belonged more to Chicago and NC.

2.The Pistons are done winning championships, because lets just face the facts, they need to re-build through the draft since and there are no good FA's available this season + the only way any team in the entire NBA will be interested in a trade with the Pistons is if Rodeny Stuckey or maybe (big maybe) Tayshaun Prince is involved. But a trade involving Tayshaun Prince would prolly heavily not favor the Pistons since it would prolly end up being with a team like the Hell.A. Lakers.

3.The Yankees and Pats are done winning championships for the same reason Barry Bonds, Sammy Sosa, and Mark McGwire do not have a ring CHEATERS NEVER WIN. So I'm convinced that untill the Patriots get rid of that fat bastard coach of theirs and the Yankees get rid of A-Roids neither team is going anywhere.+ if you look at what the Patriots did in the draft and free agency this season, you can clearly see a team that did not draft or sign free agents to win a super bowl next year. But the Patriots did draft thinking ahead, because in the next couple seasons they are going to get killed in the free agent market. Next year Vince Wilfork, Kevin Faulk, Teddy Bruschi, Stephen Niel, Logan Mankins, and Richard Seymour will all be FA's and Seymour and Wilfork will demand huge amounts of money. Then Tom Brady, Randy Moss, and Matt Light will all be free agents and I bet all 3 of those guys demand to be the highest paid at their position. Then Jerod Mayo and Wes Welker will both be free agents. And I'm sure some where along the lines of the next couple of years Lawarence Maroney is a free agent.+ the Patriots haven't really had a good draft if you take out Jerod Mayo since 2005.

4.As for Blake Griffen, lets just say that he is the only player in this years draft who is going to do anything in the NBA (well maybe a few other guys in the draft can crack the starting line up on a few teams). In my mind he is the best college prospect since Tim Duncan and maybe Greg Oden.

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1. Jordan wasn't just the face of sports in Indiana, but the face of sports all around the country. Hell, I remember going to Texas a couple of times back in the 90's and seeing people with Bulls hats and Jordan jersey's on.
2. The Pistons are done winnning for a while because of the facts that you said. To me, they should keep Stuckey, Afflalo, and either rebuild around or trade Tayshaun Prince. Rasheed Wallace and Rip Hamilton are getting old and should be traded while they still have some value left in them.
3. I really do hope the Yankees and Pattycakes are done for a while because I hate both of them. The Yankees just because they try to buy their championships and I for some reason the Patysies have always been my most hated team in the NFl. I hope Moss goes to another team and gets his ring. As for that little pretty boy that they call a quarterback, hopefully he breaks his leg again and it forces him to retire. He just seems like a cocky little bitch to me. Example of that would be him laughing at and thinking Plaxico Burress was ridiculously stupid for predicting them to only score 17 points in Super Bowl XXXL111 and then they didn't even score that much. Brady is the most overrated QB in the league and maybe of all time. I can't even put him the top 5 QB's in the league.
4. As for Blake Griffin, I liked him a lot in college and that was why I picked Oklahoma to win it all in The Big Dance. He probably is the best prospect coming out of college since Duncan and may even be the next Tim Duncan in the NBA. That's saying a lot considering I think Tim Duncan is the best big man in the league. The only reason I think he is the best is because Dwight Howard is the only one I can compare him to skill wise and Duncan is the much better shooter. But anyway, Griffin is going to be a lot better than Greg Oden because Oden was already injury prone coming into the league.
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1. Jordan wasn't just the face of sports in Indiana, but the face of sports all around the country. Hell, I remember going to Texas a couple of times back in the 90's and seeing people with Bulls hats and Jordan jersey's on.
2. The Pistons are done winnning for a while because of the facts that you said. To me, they should keep Stuckey, Afflalo, and either rebuild around or trade Tayshaun Prince. Rasheed Wallace and Rip Hamilton are getting old and should be traded while they still have some value left in them.
3. I really do hope the Yankees and Pattycakes are done for a while because I hate both of them. The Yankees just because they try to buy their championships and I for some reason the Patysies have always been my most hated team in the NFl. I hope Moss goes to another team and gets his ring. As for that little pretty boy that they call a quarterback, hopefully he breaks his leg again and it forces him to retire. He just seems like a cocky little bitch to me. Example of that would be him laughing at and thinking Plaxico Burress was ridiculously stupid for predicting them to only score 17 points in Super Bowl XXXL111 and then they didn't even score that much. Brady is the most overrated QB in the league and maybe of all time. I can't even put him the top 5 QB's in the league.
4. As for Blake Griffin, I liked him a lot in college and that was why I picked Oklahoma to win it all in The Big Dance. He probably is the best prospect coming out of college since Duncan and may even be the next Tim Duncan in the NBA. That's saying a lot considering I think Tim Duncan is the best big man in the league. The only reason I think he is the best is because Dwight Howard is the only one I can compare him to skill wise and Duncan is the much better shooter. But anyway, Griffin is going to be a lot better than Greg Oden because Oden was already injury prone coming into the league.
1.Well you are right about Jordan, he was a-lot like the Cowboys during the Emmit Smith Troy Akmen SB days (even here in Indiana we had Cowboys band wagon jumpers who jumped off when the Colts got Peyton Manning). But I still say Jordan was most popular in the midwest and the 3 states he was most popular in are as follows in this order: 1. Illinois, 2. NC, 3. Indiana (not that it really matters).
2.I highly doubt the Pistons do much of anything aside from look towards the draft to build their team around Rodney Stuckey considering the fact that Grasssmoker Wallace, AI, and McDyess will likely retire, Rip Hamilton has little to no trade value (unless traded to a contender team like Cleveland who sould just rip the Pistons off big time), and if the team try's to trade Tayshaun Prince due to the the position he plays they would prolly just get riipped off by a team like the Lakers. Who can only trade guys like Kwamie Brown and Valdimare Radmodicich (Jamaal Tinsley & Stephen "Just Shoot Me" Jackson clones on the court) for guys like Pau Gassol and Shannon Brown because their the Lakers.
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3.Because of the same reason's Barry Bonds, Rapheal Palmeraio, Roger Clemens (when he was with the Yankees), Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa have never won a ring. I'm convinced the pattycakes will not win another super bowl until they get rid of that fat bastard coach of theirs and the Yankees will never win another WS until they get rid of A-Roids. As for Tom Brady, I'd say he's no Peyton Manning or Brett Favre, is a little overrated,(but not the most overrated in the league) and will likely never be the same after 1 giant super bowl loss and 1 giant injury. But that still doesn't mean he won't be good and get his team in contention for the super bow (not saying he will make it or do well in the playoffs either). And by far Trent Dilfer is the most overrated QB to ever live.
4.Blake Griffen should be good but keep in mind he could also end up like Greg Oden since in the NCAA playoffs he did play hurt (but didn't really have anything serous).

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3.Because of the same reason's Barry Bonds, Rapheal Palmeraio, Roger Clemens (when he was with the Yankees), Mark McGuire and Sammy Sosa have never won a ring. I'm convinced the pattycakes will not win another super bowl until they get rid of that fat bastard coach of theirs and the Yankees will never win another WS until they get rid of A-Roids. As for Tom Brady, I'd say he's no Peyton Manning or Brett Favre, is a little overrated,(but not the most overrated in the league) and will likely never be the same after 1 giant super bowl loss and 1 giant injury. But that still doesn't mean he won't be good and get his team in contention for the super bow (not saying he will make it or do well in the playoffs either). And by far Trent Dilfer is the most overrated QB to ever live.
4.Blake Griffen should be good but keep in mind he could also end up like Greg Oden since in the NCAA playoffs he did play hurt (but didn't really have anything serous).
I just have to ask, who the fat bastard is that they have of a coach? I think Tom Brady is a good QB, but not near what everybody makes him out to be. Some people put him in the top 5 of all time and top 2 in the league right now, but he's nowhere even close to that. Like I said, I can't even put him in the top 5 right now let alone of all time. And Trent Dilfer is in no way overrated. He was overrated coming into the league, but when looking at his career, he was as good as he gets credit for.

Griffin did have a small injury during March Madness like Oden, but when I said Oden was already injury prone coming into the league, I mean't the knee surgery that he had to have before his rookie year even started. Portland knew he would need the surgery and it could effect his status for his rookie season before they drafted him. I said that taking him over Durant would be a huge mistake at the time and now it's starting to show. I was really rooting for Oden just because I root for almost everybody who comes out of the state of Indiana. Hell, I even root for former Purdue players in the pro's when I'm an IU fan.
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I just have to ask, who the fat bastard is that they have of a coach? I think Tom Brady is a good QB, but not near what everybody makes him out to be. Some people put him in the top 5 of all time and top 2 in the league right now, but he's nowhere even close to that. Like I said, I can't even put him in the top 5 right now let alone of all time. And Trent Dilfer is in no way overrated. He was overrated coming into the league, but when looking at his career, he was as good as he gets credit for.
Griffin did have a small injury during March Madness like Oden, but when I said Oden was already injury prone coming into the league, I mean't the knee surgery that he had to have before his rookie year even started. Portland knew he would need the surgery and it could effect his status for his rookie season before they drafted him. I said that taking him over Durant would be a huge mistake at the time and now it's starting to show. I was really rooting for Oden just because I root for almost everybody who comes out of the state of Indiana. Hell, I even root for former Purdue players in the pro's when I'm an IU fan.
1.The Fat bastard coach I'm referring to is Bill Belichick.

2.As of now I would put Tom Brady in the top 5 best QB's in the NFL. But you may be right about him being overrated and not deserving to be in the top 5 because you never know with these serous injuries. Knee injuries have been costly to QB's in the past. Either way I still say the most overrated QB ever is Trend Dilfer since all he did to win a super bowl was either run the ball for a first down or give the ball to Jamal Lewis. And still he isn't remembered as the worst QB to ever play in a super bowl like he should. Well at least Trent Dilfer should be remembered as the worst QB to win a super bowl. And I think the Pats D is by far the most overrated in the NFL, last year the only reason it wasn't ranked in the bottom 10 was because the Pats had such an easy schedule. I think all the Pats have on D any more is their front 3 and Jerod Mayo (assuming he isn't a one season rookie wonder) since they traded away Ellis Hobbs.

3.As for Griffen, I'm not saying your wrong on anything. All I meant to say was that Griffen could (but I highly doubt it) end up being injury prown since he was injured a few times last season. And I agree with you Oden will likely be more injury porwn then Griffen.

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1.The Fat bastard coach I'm referring to is Bill Belichick.
2.As of now I would put Tom Brady in the top 5 best QB's in the NFL. But you may be right about him being overrated and not deserving to be in the top 5 because you never know with these serous injuries. Knee injuries have been costly to QB's in the past. Either way I still say the most overrated QB ever is Trend Dilfer since all he did to win a super bowl was either run the ball for a first down or give the ball to Jamal Lewis. And still he isn't remembered as the worst QB to ever play in a super bowl like he should. Well at least Trent Dilfer should be remembered as the worst QB to win a super bowl. And I think the Pats D is by far the most overrated in the NFL, last year the only reason it wasn't ranked in the bottom 10 was because the Pats had such an easy schedule. I think all the Pats have on D any more is their front 3 and Jerod Mayo (assuming he isn't a one season rookie wonder) since they traded away Ellis Hobbs.
3.As for Griffen, I'm not saying your wrong on anything. All I meant to say was that Griffen could (but I highly doubt it) end up being injury prown since he was injured a few times last season. And I agree with you Oden will likely be more injury porwn then Griffen.
Even though I hate Bill Belichick as much as I do, there are a lot fatter coaches in the NFL than him.

I don't see how anyone can put Tom "Pretty Boy" Brady in the top 5 QB's in the league. My top 5 QB's in the league right now and I definitely put ahead of him would have to be Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, and Donovan McNabb.

About Trent Dilfer, I don't think he was overrated at all when his career was over. He was coming into the league, but not going out.

The Patsies defense is kind of overrated and it's success did benifit from an easy schedule. The thing I don't get about them is why they traded away Ellis Hobbs and let Asante Samuel go without even trying to resign him. Especially when he just cracked the top 5 corners in the league and some were saying the best.

The only reason I don't think Blake Griffin is or will be injury prone is because he never really had any serious injuries in college. The injuries that he had were just nicks and bruises that happen in the season.
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Even though I hate Bill Belichick as much as I do, there are a lot fatter coaches in the NFL than him.
I don't see how anyone can put Tom "Pretty Boy" Brady in the top 5 QB's in the league. My top 5 QB's in the league right now and I definitely put ahead of him would have to be Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, Ben Roethlisberger, and Donovan McNabb.
About Trent Dilfer, I don't think he was overrated at all when his career was over. He was coming into the league, but not going out.
The Patsies defense is kind of overrated and it's success did benifit from an easy schedule. The thing I don't get about them is why they traded away Ellis Hobbs and let Asante Samuel go without even trying to resign him. Especially when he just cracked the top 5 corners in the league and some were saying the best.
The only reason I don't think Blake Griffin is or will be injury prone is because he never really had any serious injuries in college. The injuries that he had were just nicks and bruises that happen in the season.
1.Yes I will agree with you there are fatter coaches in the league then Bill Belitits such as Wade Phillips. But Bill Belichick is the only fat cheating bastard coach in the league. Coaches like Wade Phillips, Eric Mangeni, and Rex Ryan are just over weight.

2.I'll agree with you on your top 2 QB's in the league Manning and Brees are by far the 2 best QB's in the league and my 2 favorites. But I'd honestly take Rothlessberger off the list, I don't really think he is that great a QB. And in the last SB, Roth's D did much more then him. But I will give credit were credit is due, Big Ben may not be that great a QB, but he does know how to win when he has a good team around him with a top 3 defense.

3.The Patsies D is by far the most overrated in the league, I'd take the Colts or even the Jets D over theirs any day of the week. Last season age finally started to show on the Patriots D and that's why it looked good against the NFL teams with a losing record and bad against the NFL teams with a winning record. And now that Ellis Hobbs, Mike Vrabel, James Sanders, and Rodney Harrison are gone from the Patty Cakes D all they have are the front 3.

4.As for Ellis Hobbs, I think the Patriots traded him to think ahead. They knew that he was going to be gone in 2 season's anyways due to contracts of big name guys like Vince Wilfork expiring. And Asantai Samuel got released, because the Patriots made a few mistakes when they singed a bunch of guys like Adalias Thomas to long-term deals in the 2007 off season.

5.As for Blake Grifeen, I already told you I agree with you on him, I was just pointing out that any one can end up injury prown in the pros. And as for Tent Dilfer, I guess I can agree with you that he wasn't overrated when his carrier was coming to an end. But he was when he played for the Ravens and a few other teams in his prime after Tampa got rid of him.

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1.Yes I will agree with you there are fatter coaches in the league then Bill Belitits such as Wade Phillips. But Bill Belichick is the only fat cheating bastard coach in the league. Coaches like Wade Phillips, Eric Mangeni, and Rex Ryan are just over weight.
2.I'll agree with you on your top 2 QB's in the league Manning and Brees are by far the 2 best QB's in the league and my 2 favorites. But I'd honestly take Rothlessberger off the list, I don't really think he is that great a QB. And in the last SB, Roth's D did much more then him. But I will give credit were credit is due, Big Ben may not be that great a QB, but he does know how to win when he has a good team around him with a top 3 defense.
3.The Patsies D is by far the most overrated in the league, I'd take the Colts or even the Jets D over theirs any day of the week. Last season age finally started to show on the Patriots D and that's why it looked good against the NFL teams with a losing record and bad against the NFL teams with a winning record. And now that Ellis Hobbs, Mike Vrabel, James Sanders, and Rodney Harrison are gone from the Patty Cakes D all they have are the front 3.
4.As for Ellis Hobbs, I think the Patriots traded him to think ahead. They knew that he was going to be gone in 2 season's anyways due to contracts of big name guys like Vince Wilfork expiring. And Asantai Samuel got released, because the Patriots made a few mistakes when they singed a bunch of guys like Adalias Thomas to long-term deals in the 2007 off season.
5.As for Blake Grifeen, I already told you I agree with you on him, I was just pointing out that any one can end up injury prown in the pros. And as for Tent Dilfer, I guess I can agree with you that he wasn't overrated when his carrier was coming to an end. But he was when he played for the Ravens and a few other teams in his prime after Tampa got rid of him.
Belicheck is the only cheater out of them all. I wish he would of been banned from the NFL for life considering he cheated to win two and nobody knows about the third Super Bowl. Hell, Pete Rose got banned from baseball for life just for betting on games he said they would win but Belicheck doesn't get anything for what he did.

Manning and Brees are by far the two best in the league, but to me #3,#4, and #5 are kind of hard to put in order because Roethlisberger has won two Super Bowls, McNabb hasn't won anything but he really hasn't got too much help being in Philly, and Carson Palmer has kind of fell off the last two years.

I would of definitely taken the Jets D over the Patriots. They may of lost something by Rodney Harrison retiring and trading Ellis Hobbs, but they might of also gained something by trading Vrabel. They also may of traded Hobbs for the reasons you gave also.
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Belicheck is the only cheater out of them all. I wish he would of been banned from the NFL for life considering he cheated to win two and nobody knows about the third Super Bowl. Hell, Pete Rose got banned from baseball for life just for betting on games he said they would win but Belicheck doesn't get anything for what he did.
Manning and Brees are by far the two best in the league, but to me #3,#4, and #5 are kind of hard to put in order because Roethlisberger has won two Super Bowls, McNabb hasn't won anything but he really hasn't got too much help being in Philly, and Carson Palmer has kind of fell off the last two years.
I would of definitely taken the Jets D over the Patriots. They may of lost something by Rodney Harrison retiring and trading Ellis Hobbs, but they might of also gained something by trading Vrabel. They also may of traded Hobbs for the reasons you gave also.
1.I'm going to have to disagree with you a bit on Belitits, because I think him and his team of steroid addict's Including Tom Brady punishment should be worst. I think Bill Belichick should be banned from the NFL forever for cheating, and I think every single member of the Patriots organization including the owners, player personal, and the guy's who flew them to their 3* super bowls they won should be stripped of all their rings and I think all 3 Vince Lonbardi trophies in Foxburroh Massachusetts should be taken away from Gelette stadium and melted for the next super bowl trophy along with the rings stripped from the team and I also think the Patriots Lamar Hunt trophies from Superbowl's XXXVI, XXXVIII & XXXIX should be taken away and melted for new Lamar hunt trophies. I also don't think The Patriots should be allowed to hang any banners in Gelette stadium from 2000-2006. I think that's a pretty good punishment for the Patriots considering the fact that Marian Jones was stripped of all her olympic medals for using steroids which isn't near as bad an act of cheating as Belichick commited. But either way you look at it cheating is cheating and it's uncalled for no mater who you are or what you do.

2.As for all the QB's on your list aside from Manning and Brees, lets just say as of now I'd take Kurt Warner and you may not like this because your a viks fan and Jay Cuttler over them.

3.As for the Pats D, lets just say as of now I'd rank it about 20th in the NFL, but I'm tempted to drop it down to 23 or 24 considering the possibility that the Patriots may end up having a bottom 5 pass rush and backfield next season. I don't think getting rid of Mike Vrabel will help them any and I think the Patriots D needs lots of rebuilding and lets just say letting Scott Pioli and his right hand man go wasn't the right approach to the Patriots rebuilding their defense.

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