UK's Sunday Times suing Lance Armstro...

UK's Sunday Times suing Lance Armstrong, seeking return of libel settlement payment and costs

There are 27 comments on the The Washington Post story from Dec 23, 2012, titled UK's Sunday Times suing Lance Armstrong, seeking return of libel settlement payment and costs. In it, The Washington Post reports that:

A British newspaper is suing Lance Armstrong for more than $1.5 million over the cyclist's successful libel action regarding doping allegations.

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“I Love You”

Since: Oct 09

Heaven

#1 Dec 23, 2012
Time for Lance to nut-up!
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#2 Dec 23, 2012
Forget it,they still have to come up with Proof ABSOLUTE!
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#3 Dec 23, 2012
Gus wrote:
Forget it,they still have to come up with Proof ABSOLUTE!
Actually they just need to show he probably was cheating scum, something that would be extremely easy right now.

If they get PROOF ABSOLUTE then armstrong goes to jail for perjury and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#4 Dec 23, 2012
Sorry, that is not gonna wash. Lance was drug tested before each race and he tested clean. It has been just a witch hunt ever since. Somebody is jealous that he could keep winning in spite of the health set backs. Armstrong is a winner who will forever have that.
DENG

Nanjing, China

#5 Dec 23, 2012
AGREE, A MEDIA WITCH HUNT; SOMEONE POWERFUL HATES LANCE ARMSTRONG
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#6 Dec 23, 2012
I can read wrote:
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Actually they just need to show he probably was cheating scum, something that would be extremely easy right now.
If they get PROOF ABSOLUTE then armstrong goes to jail for perjury and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.
Nothing wrong with that,if you do the crime,you do the time!...but prove it!

Since: Dec 07

Kemp, TX

#7 Dec 23, 2012
I can read wrote:
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Actually they just need to show he probably was cheating scum, something that would be extremely easy right now.
If they get PROOF ABSOLUTE then armstrong goes to jail for perjury and conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.
Prove it...

Keep the money Lance, you won it fair and square.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#8 Dec 23, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Prove it...
Keep the money Lance, you won it fair and square.
It's a civil case, dumbass. As I said, they don't need to prove anything.

If it's more likely he took drugs than didn't, he loses the case. If it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt, he goes to jail for a few years.
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#9 Dec 23, 2012
I can read wrote:
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It's a civil case, dumbass. As I said, they don't need to prove anything.
If it's more likely he took drugs than didn't, he loses the case. If it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt, he goes to jail for a few years.
...so what do you ''TRIP'' on?

Since: Dec 07

Kemp, TX

#10 Dec 23, 2012
I can read wrote:
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It's a civil case, dumbass. As I said, they don't need to prove anything.
If it's more likely he took drugs than didn't, he loses the case. If it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt, he goes to jail for a few years.
Tests proved he didn't...just because those peanuts that he beat are saying after all these years is not proof...but come and get him, limey. We'll give you a sample of Yorktown again.
I can read

Edinburgh, UK

#11 Dec 23, 2012
Bluebonnets-Thistle wrote:
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Tests proved he didn't...just because those peanuts that he beat are saying after all these years is not proof...but come and get him, limey. We'll give you a sample of Yorktown again.
I'm not sure if it's wrong to destroy your fantasies at this time of year but I feel I have to.

Santa isn't real, dumbass.
Card Carrying Zionist

Fountain Valley, CA

#12 Dec 23, 2012
I can read wrote:
It's a civil case...they don't need to prove anything. If it's more likely he took drugs than didn't, he loses the case. If it can be proven beyond reasonable doubt, he goes to jail for a few years.
Good point. In the US, at least, criminal convictions require proof beyond a resonable doubt. OTOH, civil verdicts are based upon the preponderance of evidence. That is how O.J. Simpson could be acquited of murder in criminal court, but convicted of wrongful death in civil court. But it is unclear to me if this case is in the US, UK or somewhere else.
Card Carrying Zionist

Fountain Valley, CA

#13 Dec 23, 2012
Reason Personified wrote:
Sorry, that is not gonna wash. Lance was drug tested before each race and he tested clean. It has been just a witch hunt ever since. Somebody is jealous that he could keep winning in spite of the health set backs. Armstrong is a winner who will forever have that.
I have been uneasy about this case. I don't really understand how the anti-doping agency works. Even if there seems to be some evidence that Armstrong used drugs, I would think that his having passed all of the drug tests would be the determining factor. It is popular to belittle circumstantial evidence, but it is often much more objective than the testimony of human witnesses. OTOH, why did Armstrong drop his appeal? This is quite confusing since it is apparently a matter of a sport's own disciplary standards. That would be different than criminal or civil laws since, and I assume that cycling is a self-policing sport. E.g., when Pete Rose was banned from baseball, I don't think that there was (at the time) a strong enough case to convict him in court, but that was not necessary. They only had to convince Commissioner Bart Giamatti, and Major League Baseball is pretty much a dictatorship.
whatever

Junction City, KS

#14 Dec 23, 2012
Here are is the main page complete with the official pdf files, doctors testimonies, bloodwork and witness statements.

http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/

Lance is a liar, a cheater and a sorry human being.

But then again, there are those who still think OJ is innocent.

LOL!!!

“Citizen_Patriot_ Voter_Atheist!”

Since: May 09

Earth,TX

#15 Dec 23, 2012
Card Carrying Zionist wrote:
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I have been uneasy about this case. I don't really understand how the anti-doping agency works. Even if there seems to be some evidence that Armstrong used drugs, I would think that his having passed all of the drug tests would be the determining factor. It is popular to belittle circumstantial evidence, but it is often much more objective than the testimony of human witnesses. OTOH, why did Armstrong drop his appeal? This is quite confusing since it is apparently a matter of a sport's own disciplary standards. That would be different than criminal or civil laws since, and I assume that cycling is a self-policing sport. E.g., when Pete Rose was banned from baseball, I don't think that there was (at the time) a strong enough case to convict him in court, but that was not necessary. They only had to convince Commissioner Bart Giamatti, and Major League Baseball is pretty much a dictatorship.
I think he dropped his appeal, because he is just plain tired, and would like to spend time with his family. He has had the public eye on him for decades, and we all know the tar and feather brigade has nothing else to do, and that they do not stand by their own test results is admission of failure on their parts. Tour de France has forever lost any status in my eyes. And from now on their advertisers will lose my business. The tests were clean, the man won. It's a done deal, drop it.
Card Carrying Zionist

Fountain Valley, CA

#17 Dec 23, 2012
whatever wrote:
Here are is the main page complete with the official pdf files, doctors testimonies, bloodwork and witness statements. http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/
Lance is a liar, a cheater and a sorry human being. But then again, there are those who still think OJ is innocent. LOL!!!
I don't claim that Armstrong did or did not violate drug policy -- I was not there. I do wonder, however, why he did not fail a single drug test if he is demonstrably guilt.

Since: Dec 07

Kemp, TX

#18 Dec 23, 2012
I can read wrote:
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I'm not sure if it's wrong to destroy your fantasies at this time of year but I feel I have to.
Santa isn't real, dumbass.
My fantasy is a my boot up your limey arse, boy.

Since: Dec 07

Kemp, TX

#19 Dec 23, 2012
whatever wrote:
Here are is the main page complete with the official pdf files, doctors testimonies, bloodwork and witness statements.
http://cyclinginvestigation.usada.org/
Lance is a liar, a cheater and a sorry human being.
But then again, there are those who still think OJ is innocent.
LOL!!!
There is no evidence of dopiing in bloodwork tests, peanut. No doctors proved Lance was doping.

OJ should've been executed..you need a straight jacket.
whatever

Junction City, KS

#20 Dec 23, 2012
Card Carrying Zionist wrote:
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I don't claim that Armstrong did or did not violate drug policy -- I was not there. I do wonder, however, why he did not fail a single drug test if he is demonstrably guilt.
If you read through the witness accounts and the statements you will find that the profound scheme was the use of a performance enhancer and a masking agent which was successful in the early years. Once the questions were asked and a suitable process for looking through the masking agent was produced, the filed drug samples were re analyzed and found to be tainted.

The proof is without question.

Armstrongs rants are of no avail.

He should try to be a man and accept the ruling.
Gus

Vancouver, Canada

#21 Dec 23, 2012
...they were tampered with!

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