Groups ask Kaine to restore felon rights
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#1 Nov 19, 2009
I don't think that felons rights should be restored by Gov.Kaine.These folk made the personal choice to break the law while knowing the consequences.They made the wrong choice on their own accord and have to suffer the punishment.I understand that they have done the time for the crime,but you are still accountable for your actions regardless.They should have thought for a minute before doing something stupid....sorry.
#2 Nov 19, 2009
They do have a second chance. They aren't in jail or haven't been executed. That's enough. There are consequences to actions. Some are, and should be, permanent.
#3 Nov 19, 2009
You break the law you pay felons have chosen to break the law they must pay for life!
The person they killed or injured has lost the right to be free so must the felon pay!
#4 Nov 19, 2009
Oh, hell no!
Agreed! Felons have violated their social contract with civilization, there is no reason for society to still grant them rights that they have shunned in their dealings with other people.
This is about the only *real* punishment felons get because jails are such freakin' country clubs. Although I'd suspect that many of them never gave a rats **** about voting anyway.
#5 Nov 23, 2009
I committed a felony almost 30 years ago. I was abused for nearly 20 years, emotionally and physically. One day I got tired of it and nearly killed my abuser. Because it was seen as revenge, I was sentenced to 8 years for malicious wounding. My abuser was never arrested, but, I lost my rights in Virginia for life for fighting back.
I'm not looking for sympathy, I just want you people to see how easily a persons life can be destroyed by the narrow-mindedness you revel in.
#6 Nov 24, 2009
just what is a felon' anyway. and what does one have to be convicted of to become a felon? and just how and why and by who' did such a thing come to be?
as i understand it, a conviction of stealing or taking as little as $200.00 can put you in that situtation.
is this law about protecting the citizen's or punishing the convicted, or is it really about something else. just who was it that got rid of parole in va. was it not George Allen" a republician?
just what is it behind all of the purpose of such law? could it be RACIAL? yes it was and still is Racial. reason being that by far the most convicted felons in va are male NEGRO'S. and" in the past almost all negro's were or are DEMOCRAT's.
the Republician's' see this as a way to get them in power and keep them in power, every negro, that they can convict as a felon today, is one vote again them that they will never have to worry about. i would say that there is probably at least 500,000 adult negro's in va today, that has lost their right's to vote, because of such law.
this law alone, has in a racial way allowed the republician's to achieve power in va, for many year. for instance in this last election' if those 500,000 negro voter's were able to have voted, most likely their vote would have been DEMOCRAT.
I am not a neggro, i am not a convicted felon on any level. but i am for abolishing such a law, because of it's real intent and purpose. yes mr Kaine should restore all low level felon's right's, right's that they should never have lost to begin with. the republician party that cooked up such racial way of control over a people should be abolished and in prison their selves. and no' i am not a democrat.
#7 Nov 24, 2009
Since this law was in effect before african-americans could vote, your opinion is invalidated there, Red Dog.
Thanks for playing "Pull the Race Card".
#8 Nov 24, 2009
this is not about pulling a race card, it is a fact. as for the negro' not being able to vote, yes that was a racial issue' as you well know.
believe me i have no reason to be doing something for a negro, as i am a bonifide racial bigot. and if i had my way they all would have been back in africa, many year's ago. along with all white negro's that support them.
so" as i said this has nothing to do with pulling a race card, for the benifit of a negro. this is just about right and wrong.
#9 Nov 25, 2009
First of all, be man or woman enough to put your name on the board instead of hiding behind some assumed identity. BTW, your language and your words tell us your generation.
Second, I would assume that most of the people who don't want the vote restored to the formerly incarcerated claim to be Christian. If this is the case, how do you justify your faith where redemption and right standing before God allows you access to a Holy God?
It is easy to have Zero Tolerance when it is not someone you know or love. However, if this hits your doorstep compassion and understanding is what you would want.
Third, it doesn't matter if you are members of the RNC or DNC. What does matter is whether America will move forward or remain an archaic organism that is hell bent on not evolving to live up to the constitution and creeds of its founders.
There is no need to use a race card when the race line has been drawn since the passing of the Jim Crow law in 1902 that gave the governor of VA the sole right to restore the votes of the formerly incarcerated. To ignore the truth of race in politics is to ignore the slipping of the transmission. Eventually the transmission must be replace, but at what cost?
Don't demand Democracy in for the form of authoritarianism. Ignorance is so unbecoming.
It is time for the ignorance to die and for real discussion to take place. It's easy to say they don't deserve a second chance, but neither does Sanford who not only cheated on his wife, but also used state money to pay for his time away to be with his mistress and from his sons on fathers day. I think in politics that is call misappropriation of funds (a.k.a. stealing). If found guilty of the 37 counts he faces, Sanford will be and in my opinion and is no different than a murderer or drug dealer. He is a felon whose vote will be denied, but I think he still has a right to vote.
Chose your words wisely because you will be judged by them before you leave to meet your maker.
#10 Nov 25, 2009
look you people need to get off of this bull about what the founding father's of this country had in mind.
the founding father's were all extreme racial bigot's. they did not even consider any one that was not white, a human being. they all refered to negro's and other races as beast of the field.
go to the library of congress, there you will or should find a book called the negro' a beast of the field. with the seal of the library of congress, stamped just on the inside. this book tell's any one just exactly what the founding father's and the people in general, thought of negro's and other races.
the so called founding father's would be shocked out of their minds to see what this country has become. in my opinion, let me repeat that' in my opinion, the male negro's have destroyed every neighborhood' every school, and every city in this country. not one neighborhood in this country where the negro's live, is it safe for a dog to walk the street's.
you need to get off of that bull about what god might think, and consider your children, and them having to be raised with and around' what your for fathers called ungodly beast of the field.
#11 Nov 25, 2009
Ummm.. Red Dog? The Library of Congress has all manner of books. The presence of a book in the LOC is not a governmental endorsement. Dammit Jim, it's a library, not a political platform!
The 1300+ Writings by Hitler in the LOC do not make the founding faters Nazis.
The 41 titles in the LOC by Richard Feynman don't make the founding fathers physicists or jewish.
The numerous titles by Karl Marx in the LOC don't make the founding fathers socialists.
The 93 titles in the LOC by Al Gore do not make the founding fathers idiots.
I find it hard to believe that anyone with such cro-magnon opinions could operate a computer well enough to find the internet, let alone topix.com . You sir, are a sham. Take your moveon.org smelling arse on to some other forum.
#12 Nov 25, 2009
the so called founding father's were absolute pathetic idiot's. they did not have one ounce of forsite, or really hind site. no nation or country has ever lasted very long, that was made up of interbred mixed blooded mongreel's.
not to mention the million's of people that have been slaughtered, by religious group's that clashed' after being thrown together in a country. such as europe and the united states today. europe and this country's troubles have just begin, it will not be long until you sir and your children will be looking for a rock' to hide under.
#13 Nov 25, 2009
Aluminum or tin foil? Just curious.
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