IPS teachers to impliment work slowdown

There are 20 comments on the WISH-TV 8 Indiana News story from Jan 26, 2009, titled IPS teachers to impliment work slowdown. In it, WISH-TV 8 Indiana News reports that:

Many Indianapolis Public School teachers are staging a work slowdown for two weeks.

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Pat

United States

#1 Jan 26, 2009
Mis-spelled a word in an headline about teachers????
Pat

United States

#2 Jan 26, 2009
and then I use an instead of a - I guess we all have bad grammar days :)
whatever

Cincinnati, OH

#3 Jan 26, 2009
will anyone notice the slow down?.
Johnny

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Jan 26, 2009
whatever wrote:
will anyone notice the slow down?.
Yes, the kids will suffer, just like we have for years. Every time that we get a raise insurance eats more than it up, we have families of our own too, just lke you. Contrary to popular belief, teachers have lives outside of schools just like you. Of course for some it will not matter, but for others it will free up HOURS! If you dont understand what I am talking about, go and sub for a week in IPS. I bet that you would not make it, I hope that you do try it and make a liar out of me though.:) Have a great day!
teacheralso

Indianapolis, IN

#5 Jan 26, 2009
We are ALL overworked, overcommited, and tired. Good luck IPS you have always deserved more than what you get paid!
Sean

Brownsburg, IN

#6 Jan 26, 2009
Doing less work for what you're being paid just proves that you're overpaid. In this economic crisis, are you really trying to demand a raise by punishing those you're there to serve?
Amanda

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Jan 26, 2009
Let's see...the school is going to cut 400 jobs and the teachers are screaming for a raise? I'm thinking that you can't get blood from a turnip! And so what if they work more hours then their contract states, so what if they take work home...so does the rest of the world!! It's called doing what it takes to get the job done. If you wanted to be in a position that makes more money you should have been something besides a teacher!!! It's no secret that they don't make ton's of money. And what's going to come out of this...less service to those who need it, THE KIDS! Shame on the teachers and shame on the union!
teacher and union rep

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Jan 26, 2009
As a rep for the union, I want to say that people who don't understand the time and money that ALL teachers put into the profession need to SHUT-UP! I say shame on the district. What you don't understad is that most teachers spend well over the alotted reimbursement amount on supplies for their classroom and children. NOT to mention the money we spend on our own children for their education. After spending 20 minutes working on homework with my 1st grader, I'm getting ready to go grade papers EVEN though I walked out of the door to my building at 4:15. Do you want to know where the other 3 1/2 hours went? I was at the library researching for a graduate level class so that I can keep my teaching license current...oh yeah, that costs $800 per class AND it doesn't get reimbursed. So before you go judging the HARDEST WORKING TEACHERS in Indiana. Think, would you be willing to do the job? I doubt it.
Jennifer

Indianapolis, IN

#9 Jan 26, 2009
Funny how there is no money for teacher salaries but there was money to give Dr. White his $17,000 bonus, his two right-hands over $20,000 combined raise, plus thousands of dollars for raises for their secretaries. There is money--just not for the right people.
MOM

Columbus, OH

#10 Jan 26, 2009
I think IPS needs someone new as in replace Dr.White if he can have a raise of $17,000 than why can't the teachers have what the deserve.The last I checked the teachers teach the kids and get them to pass the ISTEP.While Dr.White sets in his office and spends money the school doesn't have and he also has someone drive him around. How much does that cost the KIDS? The way things look for IPS the schools will be all closed if things keep heading this way.
Justin

United States

#11 Jan 26, 2009
Good for you IPS teachers. If people in this country would stop complaining on how the school systems run and start parenting themselves then society would be a lot better off. I am not a teacher but I sure can tell that teachers get alot of blame for the way society is. Parents need to learn that the school is not a free daycare for them to use. The schools are used for us to guide our children through the education system but the real schooling belongs at home. Grow up folks and lets start parenting instead of letting the school systems take the blame for our children.

“If I lead will you follow?”

Since: May 07

Clarksville TN

#12 Jan 26, 2009
Judging by the dropout rates in Indy High Schools, any slower and it will be stop.
Duh

United States

#13 Jan 26, 2009
teacher and union rep wrote:
As a rep for the union, I want to say that people who don't understand the time and money that ALL teachers put into the profession need to SHUT-UP! I say shame on the district. What you don't understad is that most teachers spend well over the alotted reimbursement amount on supplies for their classroom and children. NOT to mention the money we spend on our own children for their education. After spending 20 minutes working on homework with my 1st grader, I'm getting ready to go grade papers EVEN though I walked out of the door to my building at 4:15. Do you want to know where the other 3 1/2 hours went? I was at the library researching for a graduate level class so that I can keep my teaching license current...oh yeah, that costs $800 per class AND it doesn't get reimbursed. So before you go judging the HARDEST WORKING TEACHERS in Indiana. Think, would you be willing to do the job? I doubt it.
Did anyone force you to become a teacher? No, then stop your whining. did anyone force you to work at IPS? Stop your whining. Lotsof people have work to do at the house, lots have homework to do with the kids. Many people have requirments to keep thier jobs or licenses. Stop your whining. Stop teaching, go get another job.
Johnny

Indianapolis, IN

#15 Jan 27, 2009
Duh wrote:
<quoted text> So do teachers spend more money then the rest of us on their kids education? I spent tons of money on my business, its called a write off. Teachers can do the same. You very well may be the hardest working teachers in IN. But you are probably the least succesful. Face it IOS sucks, from the top to the bottom. And that includes the teachers.
At least you have office supplies, I have already given away 1500 pencils, 100 notebooks and several reams of paper because my kids parents cant afford it. I bet your office runs in a similar fashion. I only get $250 per year as a write off, try teaching science to 100 kids with only $2.50 per kid a year. Does that put things into perspective? You can read, teachers taught you something, lets try a lesson in civics next time.
Daniels ideas

Plainfield, IN

#16 Jan 27, 2009
Sad but what people do not realize is this all goes back to the fact that Daniels now has control of the money which pays teachers salaries. The schools hands are really tied and things will now get worse that we have a Republican State Superintendent. People do not understand the idea of ‘flat lining’. Let me explain. What happens is this. Because there will be no money people will be cut, therefore teachers will be doing the jobs of secretaries and administrators, thus they will have less time for prep in the end, the students in the classroom will suffer. I know because this is what Mitch Daniels did to Education in the Department of Correction. He has now destroyed education in the department of correction. At this time there are no special education services being given to special education students. No programs to rehabilitation the offender. Shortage of staffing has caused all counselors and custody to also work as secretaries and administers, thus the juveniles lack services.
That people is ‘flat lining.’
One area where we in Indiana should NEVER short change is our youth, but Daniels only see’s the cost. He is a money man. But remember he was part of the IPALCO board back in 2002 at that time IPALCO merged with AES Corp of Arlington, VA. On the day of the merger the stock value plunged from $49.60 a share to $4.11. The IPALCO executives and directors, including Mitch Daniels, our governor, had sold of $70 million worth of their own company stock just before the merger. But 1,800 workers lost an estimated $130 million in a 401(k) savings plan put in place by IPALCO. It seems there was reason to believe that the executives and directors believed that the stock was volatile, so why didn’t they warn the workers? The future governor didn’t care enough to warn those people who worked so hard day in and day out, whose retirement fund was in this stock. And you think he is looking out for your welfare? Think again.
Oh, and in the end the Daniels administration cut the teachers prep time in the IDOC, so we were doing prep time on our own time so we had no prep time. That is Daniels idea of ‘flat lining’.

“6 of one, 0110 of the other.”

Since: Feb 08

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#17 Jan 27, 2009
Aren't there grants available, high-volume discount suppliers, and other resources for teachers to tap into individually and en masse? How many letters have y'all written to philanthropists or foundations and which ones have been successful? Our kids' teachers need access to resources, too. As for pay raises, how about we tax the **** out of parents who let their kids drop out? Call it the "State Will Eventually Have to Board Your Stupid Kids and You Didn't Do Enough to Stop It" tax.
Duh

United States

#18 Jan 27, 2009
Johnny wrote:
<quoted text>
At least you have office supplies, I have already given away 1500 pencils, 100 notebooks and several reams of paper because my kids parents cant afford it. I bet your office runs in a similar fashion. I only get $250 per year as a write off, try teaching science to 100 kids with only $2.50 per kid a year. Does that put things into perspective? You can read, teachers taught you something, lets try a lesson in civics next time.
But i bet your kids parents can afford Jordans and Fubu for themsleves and their kids. Why do you only get 250.00 to write off? Try to get a better tax person. Professional expenses, etc. If you are a teacher, why are you online right now? Seems to me you should be teaching.
Daniels ideas

Plainfield, IN

#19 Jan 27, 2009
Supplies, now to that issue: In the IDOC, John Nally (head of education), that is hoot. Try this one if you want to hear about Republican waste and ridiculous! Everyone knows the kids we get can’t read. So, the head of education in 2006 gets us books, yep, for the first time in over 20 years because of an NCA audit, he has too. Anyway, they were all Advance Placement; these were not the books which the teachers wanted, so the teachers asked for supplements to help in their use. NO, was the reply.(Oh, by the way John Nally got a $1000 spot bonus for getting such a great deal on the books.) The kids were frustrated with the books. They were too hard to understand. And in time they disappeared. But, anytime that John Nally came to any of the juveniles he demanded that those books be out, and if he brought J. David Donahue (then Commission of the IDOC) they wanted to see the books. So the books warmed the shelves, but the teachers were forced to used hand me downs from public schools as they had in the pass.
As for paper, pencils, and other supplies,$250 is only a drop in the bucket. Students in the IDOC have no money. The commissary milks every penny out of them for over priced hygiene items, and food,(Armark food is like eating Alpo daily, it is REALLY BAD). Therefore if a student is to have paper or pencils teachers normally have to give them the items. The state will no longer allow institutions to have contracts on copy machines, so everyone prays the machines keep working and there is paper to put in them.
Things have been so bad the machines have worked because there has been no paper, so teachers brought paper from home and run materials. But this is very costly. Hey, but our governor doesn’t care, in fact this is what he wants to happen.
Our governor feels that teachers pay is too high. That is his game. He has told state teachers from day one, teacher pay is too high. And that goes for your pay also. So, don’t blame your Superintendent, blame old Mitch, there is where the problem lies. He now has his hands on the money because we the people of Indiana allowed the state to hold the money and he is not going to allow the schools to have it.
I have an example to tell you about. There was a student who attacked a teacher with a scissors. It was very blatant, she was then told to go to the office, and at that point she tried to kick the teacher in the groin. The teacher deflected the kick and she fell to the floor. When she fell she hit her front teeth on the floor and they went up into her gums. The state brought in CHINS and the State Police, and tried to blame the teacher, the IDOC tried to fire the teacher, took five days pay, and wanted him to pay for the damages. It was a YEAR before the charges were cleared through the IDOC, yet only three to six months before the State Police and CHINS cleared him of all charges. He laughed when he saw the governor with the Bennett running on a platform stating they would not allow students to misbehave in the classroom when it was his office who fought so strongly to fire him when he had so much evidence which point to the fact that the student violated him not once with the scissors but tried a second time by kicking him in the groin and was documented by a multitude of eyewitnesses.
Mitch Daniels is the source of the problem not your Superintendent, end of story.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#22 Jan 27, 2009
Duh wrote:
<quoted text>Well we can see you dont teach business do you. Insurance is on the rise on all most all sectors. Most people raises are eaten up higher cost. So why should teachers be any different? Again you chose to be a teacher, if you dont like it, go flip some burgers at Mcdonalds. You get paid a alot for working only 9 to 10 months out of the year. Did you want to become a teacher to make alot of money? Or did you do it because you wanted to make a difference? If you didnt do it for the money? Then ****
Very entertaining to see all the hand-wringing,****, and discord among those who belong to a union, while currently enjoying protections & benefits above & beyond the majority of workers.
But they NEVER seem to want to exercise their right to look for another line of work.
I really FEEL for them, don't you?

“NOT RUSSIAN”

Since: May 08

and not from Russia

#23 Jan 27, 2009
The news byte said something along the lines that the teachers were refusing to stay after for extracurricular activities. I have a kid who's been trying to corner his teachers for 3 years now, trying to get them to give him some time after school remedially, and they refuse. Sounds like they've been refusing for some time now.

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