'Shock therapy' reborn to treat depression

Photo: Dr. Michael Hill, left, talks with Jack Gregory as he prepares him for electroconvulsive therapy earlier this month, at UNC Hospitals in Chapel Hill, N.C. Gregory is receiving ECT to treat severe depression. Full Story
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DominiqueW_Willo wbrookIL

Westmont, IL

#1 May 17, 2009
t me to understand the micro details involved and mentioning the amount of electricty used explained in detail as reference has also helped explain. I am very concerned about its long term effects and if the therapy can be done for individual after going thru the 6-12 sessions over one month period mentioned. This would be for my fiance in AU.
I find it sad that more medical research isnt provided by greedy drug companies who only want to medicate people vs. help them stay drug free and treated as a finality.
Holistic treatment would also be interesting to understand in relation to this article. hankyou for posting this article. It has helped
I know

Albuquerque, NM

#2 May 17, 2009
DominiqueW_WillowbrookIL wrote:
t me to understand the micro details involved and mentioning the amount of electricty used explained in detail as reference has also helped explain. I am very concerned about its long term effects and if the therapy can be done for individual after going thru the 6-12 sessions over one month period mentioned. This would be for my fiance in AU.
I find it sad that more medical research isnt provided by greedy drug companies who only want to medicate people vs. help them stay drug free and treated as a finality.
Holistic treatment would also be interesting to understand in relation to this article. hankyou for posting this article. It has helped
...someone who has had it done. Don't recall if it was the 6 or 12 treatments and she did have some short term memory loss for a while but over a year later is only on one medication and doing great.
JustAThought

Santa Fe, NM

#3 May 17, 2009
They did this to my former mother-in-law in the 60s to treat her for clinical depression. It erased some precious memories from her and never helped with the original issues. In the short term, it looked successful, but after a year, she was worse off because she lost the memories she wanted to have and got stuck in the ones that caused the depression in the first place. It was not until 30 years later when we addressed the issues head-on, was she able to come out of it and without the use of drugs.

I also don't believe anti-depressants in and of themselves are not good either. Without the right therapy in conjunction, we're just drugging a lot of people for no darn good reason. Why is it our society thinks that we can use pharmaceuticals to side step truth, integrity and self-responsibility is a conundrum for me.

We give bright, creative children Ritalin when they just want and need their parents to be parents and their teachers to be teachers. Then we create the next generation of addicts that result in increased crime and violence.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#4 May 17, 2009
I saw a case where it made a dramatic difference. However, it doesn't last. Perhaps altering a diet where more electrical energy can be produced within the body may help to stabilize.
do they

Santa Fe, NM

#5 May 17, 2009
test on monkeys?
JustAThought

Santa Fe, NM

#6 May 17, 2009
do they wrote:
test on monkeys?
Wouldn't that be cruel?
HumanSpirit

Live Oak, FL

#9 May 23, 2009
How about Statin and psychotropic drugs in earlier years as the problem?
Zorkon 756

Kihei, HI

#10 May 23, 2009
DominiqueW_WillowbrookIL wrote:
t me to understand the micro details involved and mentioning the amount of electricty used explained in detail as reference has also helped explain. I am very concerned about its long term effects and if the therapy can be done for individual after going thru the 6-12 sessions over one month period mentioned. This would be for my fiance in AU.
I find it sad that more medical research isnt provided by greedy drug companies who only want to medicate people vs. help them stay drug free and treated as a finality.
Holistic treatment would also be interesting to understand in relation to this article. hankyou for posting this article. It has helped
It helped. My goodness, what were you like before?

You should have consulted Dr. Miracle for a remedy. Dave will dispense anything.

“JustAThought”

Since: Feb 09

northern NM

#11 May 24, 2009
Zorkon 756 wrote:
<quoted text>
It helped. My goodness, what were you like before?
You should have consulted Dr. Miracle for a remedy. Dave will dispense anything.
Yeah, but Dave keeps the Ritalin and Adderall for himself.

“Health Product”

Since: Feb 09

Alaska

#12 May 24, 2009
I've used many depression products and rarely have felt that any really work and they certainly don't work right away, until now. I have try exuberil and i can see the best result. Exuberil is best I have judged.
You can try visiting this link :http://www.blogigo.com/exuber il
Zorkon 756

Kihei, HI

#13 May 25, 2009
I was very depressed in Texas, a most God forsaken place.

Then I moved to Hawaii, and I've had nothing but blessed relief every since.
HumanSpirit

Alachua, FL

#14 May 25, 2009
FDA bans vitamin B6 threaten US heathcare contributes to mental depression in ruling
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FDA has effectively bans a naturally-occurring form of vitamin B6

The FDA has effectively banned a naturally-occurring form of vitamin B6 called pyridoxamine by declaring it to be a drug, reports the American Association for Health Freedom. Responding to a petition filed by a drug company, the FDA declared pyridoxamine to be "a new drug." This article continues at:

http://www.naturalnews.com/025606.html

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Large Scale Study Finds Vitamin B6 Deficiency Common in the U.S.

Implications of Vitamin B6 Deficiency

Neurological Abnormalities including depression and cognitive dysfunction

In its role as a vital coenzyme, B6 is involved in the synthesis of neurotransmitters including serotonin. B6 is required to form serotonin from the amino acid tryptophan. It is also required to synthesize dopamine, norepinephrine and GABA (gamma amino butyric acid). "Early symptoms of vitamin B6 deficiency include depression and confusion" according to Eleanor Noss Whitney and Sharon Rady Rolfes, authors of the text Understanding Nutrition.

Based on the findings of the Tufts study, that B6 deficiency is indeed widespread in the U.S., as is depression, shouldn't plasma B6 (PLP) be assessed in cases of depression and cognitive dysfunction prior to resorting to misused, prescription anti depressant drugs? Is B6 deficiency, along with other nutrient deficiencies like essential fatty acid omega 3, one more link to understanding the underlying causes of depression?

http://www.naturalnews.com/023586.html

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Drugs and Suppliment Mayo Clinic

Snip:

Vitamin B6 (pyridoxine) is required for the synthesis of the neurotransmitters serotonin and norepinephrine and for myelin formation.
Pyridoxine deficiency in adults principally affects the peripheral nerves, skin, mucous membranes, and the blood cell system. In children, the central nervous system (CNS) is also affected. Deficiency can occur in people with uremia, alcoholism, cirrhosis, hyperthyroidism, malabsorption syndromes, congestive heart failure (CHF), and in those taking certain medications.

snip:

Pyridoxine is frequently used in combination with other B vitamins in vitamin B complex formulations.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vit.../NS_pa...

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Serious health problems will occur as a result of this ruling . It is obvious that this is a continuation of "Drug America" with political objectives (Codex Alimentarius Commission) and the profits of the pharmaceutical an mental health industry.

This (IMO) is an attempt to control Tryptophan (an essential amino acid) for heath and mental stability as B6 is a catalyst for absorption of the amino acid.

read here:

Corruption Amino Acid: Tryptophan

http://www.ceri.com/trypto.htm

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(Codex Alimentarius Commission. is mandated to set international reference standards and has been making decision behind secretive closed door sessions that will caused forced medicine and drugging based on pharmaceutical input without government oversight thus manipulating of the health and welfare of the public and gaining power and control over world governments.)
try this

Rio Rancho, NM

#15 May 25, 2009
Eat three bananas a day and a couple of servings of turkey and get all the B-6 and tryptothan you need.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#16 May 25, 2009
Depression seems to be tied with the will to live. If you have a purpose, however minor, it keeps you going.

We are born into an artificial world. The social structure, accepted thing, and such. It can be very frustrating and inhibiting on a lot of levels. Gets worse when you are tagged with a disorder that is really just not being comfortable with the artificial "norm".

Clinically depressed people want to live. Otherwise they wouldn't be hanging on so long. Perhaps providing a new paradigm in their lives, allowing them to blaze a new personal trail within non-destructive limits would help them, and possibly society as a whole.

There is one thing about physical life, when there is something you have to do or really want to do, a real focus, then you can overcome many physical limitations. Clinical depression is a physical limitation.

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#17 May 25, 2009
correct accepted things to accepted thinking
kwijibo

AOL

#18 May 25, 2009
"Then I moved to Hawaii, and I've had nothing but blessed relief every since."

Z, so the geographical cure really works? Is it really that simple? Which island? How's the recession over there?---K.
Zorkon 756

Kihei, HI

#19 May 25, 2009
What recession?

I think it was reported yesterday that the unemployment rate was 6.5%, which is what has been normal most of my life. For a long time now it was between 2 and 3%. For a long time when I got here soon after 9/11 I could sit on the beach in Waikiki all morning and not see more than one or two boats, or even people around. No sun bathers.

Things picked up a lot about a year later, and became almost too crowded. Now things are slacking off, mostly I think due to a falling off of Japanese tourists, but the beaches are still crowded.

We have about the highest rates for gasoline in the country, but you'd never guess from the traffic. Everyone and their third cousin is going somewhere.



Incidentally, I really do think getting away from depressing environments helps depression. Getting away from self-righteous and bloviating republican pigs and relatives helps too although the latter are all gone now, but one.

I was brought up in a church that taught us to study the bible daily, and this I did for many years. At some point one just has to take notice of what the bible says and what others say about it. Living in such a hypocritical environment is very damaging.

I did not expect the world to change by just coming here, but surprisingly, it did, for me.

If there are any Dave Nelsons here I am blisfully unaware of them.
it was reported that

Rio Rancho, NM

#20 May 25, 2009
Zorkon 756 wrote:
What recession?
I think it was reported yesterday that the unemployment rate was 6.5%, which is what has been normal most of my life. For a long time now it was between 2 and 3%. For a long time when I got here soon after 9/11 I could sit on the beach in Waikiki all morning and not see more than one or two boats, or even people around. No sun bathers.
Things picked up a lot about a year later, and became almost too crowded. Now things are slacking off, mostly I think due to a falling off of Japanese tourists, but the beaches are still crowded.
We have about the highest rates for gasoline in the country, but you'd never guess from the traffic. Everyone and their third cousin is going somewhere.
Incidentally, I really do think getting away from depressing environments helps depression. Getting away from self-righteous and bloviating republican pigs and relatives helps too although the latter are all gone now, but one.
I was brought up in a church that taught us to study the bible daily, and this I did for many years. At some point one just has to take notice of what the bible says and what others say about it. Living in such a hypocritical environment is very damaging.
I did not expect the world to change by just coming here, but surprisingly, it did, for me.
If there are any Dave Nelsons here I am blisfully unaware of them.
the unemployment rate is 8.9% soon to be 10%.

http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.ht...
Zorkon 756

Kihei, HI

#21 May 25, 2009
it was reported that wrote:
<quoted text>
the unemployment rate is 8.9% soon to be 10%.
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.nr0.ht...
Well, here are other statistics:

http://data.bls.gov/map/servlet/map.servlet.M...

According to this the unemployment rate here is 6.9% and that was last month. I think I saw mention it was 6.5 just the other day.
thats on

Rio Rancho, NM

#22 May 25, 2009
Zorkon 756 wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, here are other statistics:
http://data.bls.gov/map/servlet/map.servlet.M...
According to this the unemployment rate here is 6.9% and that was last month. I think I saw mention it was 6.5 just the other day.
the islands. On the mainland, it's 8.9%

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