Police: Slain man was victim of battery

A 44-year-old man who died after he was found lying on a median downtown during the Fiesta celebrations Friday was not "beaten," police said Monday. Full Story
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jaybeewhy

Powhatan Point, OH

#82 Sep 15, 2009
OUTRAGE wrote:
I'm a long time SF(Sanfrancisco)resident
and looking to relocate to Santa fe for a retirement, but I am astonished at the lack
of public response to this incident.
A diverse city such as yours should be the mecca
for TOLERANCE.
Spanish, Mexican, White and Native American
all should be ASHAMED.
GET OUT in the street and let your voices be heard---Not another Matthew Shepard !!
Angry in SF
no Santa Fe is not some magical place. It is a mean dirty town and it has a very violent side.
Bill Laughlin

Bernalillo, NM

#83 Sep 15, 2009
Has anyone considered the fact that both the police dept and New Mexican are not stating everything they know at this point in time out of respect for Mr. Roybal's family. I have a feeling we will learn a lot more about this incident once the services are over on Friday. I refuse to believe as many bad things about both the New Mexican and the SFPD as have been printed and stated on this site. You people are paranoid. All of you.
Seriously

Glendale, AZ

#84 Sep 15, 2009
I dont understand wrote:
If there were so many witnessed, why didn't one of those persons go to this mans aide. If they saw him fall, why did they not got to his aide, call 911 or do something about it. If I would ever witness such violence, or a hurt person, I WILL BE THERE TO TRY & HELP. Did anyone go to Mr. Roybal when they saw him fall? I don't understand how such witnesses didn't make any effort to help. All you had to do is call 911. In today's world, very few DO NOT have cell phones.
I TOTALLY agree with you!! If SO many people saw this happen, why was he "found" later? Why didn't anyone summon help?? Are people REALLY that wrapped up in their own lives they cannot help another human being???

****???
sad

Santa Fe, NM

#86 Sep 15, 2009
I hope they get the murderer. Santa fe is the land of cover up's!!! My condolences to the family of Gilbert Roybal.
Stay in school

Grants, NM

#88 Sep 15, 2009
Sounds like murder to me.Why all all the mumbo jumbo? And the fact that he is gay should not make this any more or less of a tragedy.
Bill Laughlin

Bernalillo, NM

#89 Sep 15, 2009
To Encyde your points well stated. I am probably speaking more to the people who don't trust anybody. They don't like newcomers, they don't like locals and I am trying to figure out who they do trust and respect and do like. To read some of the posts you would think this was the sinkhole of the earth and I don't feel that way or believe that. There is a lot I don't agree with in this City but I don't believe that people deliberately lie and mislead. If you are following the case of the murder of the young graduate student at Yale University the authorities are playing everything close to their vest, just as they have done in the Michael Jackson case. Unfortunately when that is done it leads people to believe there is a cover up or ulterior motives. Errors should be pointed out but I don't believe it is our job to make the authorities job harder than it needs to be.
King

United States

#90 Sep 15, 2009
My sincere condolences to the family and friends You will be missed Gilbert RIP
yosan2

Olympia, WA

#91 Sep 15, 2009
Semantics. A man died because he was struck with an object perhaps once or twice. Does this make it less significant than a beating?
Joe

Santa Fe, NM

#93 Sep 15, 2009
The logic of some of these posters is scary.

The (likely) facts as we know them:
Man in bar gets in a fight, gets punched, dies.
Tragic, but pretty straightforward...

Unless he's gay. Then to many of you it's automatically a hate crime. What if the other man is gay too? Then maybe it isn't?

Hate crime laws exist for a good reason, but it's not to provide "extra" value to the life of every homosexual, or extra punishment to anyone that harms them.

Those who eagerly cry wolf before having the facts, are hurting their own cause.

“Talk is Cheap”

Since: Feb 09

Location hidden

#95 Sep 15, 2009
If a person is hit in the head or has a fall where their head has struck an object on the way down is very common. Sometimes there is bruising and rupturing of the blood vessels in and around the brain. A person conceivably could have a slow bleed until the area is so full of blood and clotting, it compresses the other blood vessels and cuts off vital circulation. Yes, this assault could of been done 2 to 3 days prior to his death...
Get the facts straight

Santa Fe, NM

#99 Sep 15, 2009
If you want the facts read the Albuquerque Journal. It is a totaly differnt story than what the New Mexican has reported.
Well

Albuquerque, NM

#100 Sep 15, 2009
Interesting wrote:
I phoned the police Sunday about some information and received a phone call that very evening.
And????
steve

Albuquerque, NM

#102 Sep 15, 2009
My condolences to the family-
Gilbert you were a great guy-
Rest in Peace...
Searching For Compassion

Albuquerque, NM

#103 Sep 15, 2009
Oh well, if they just punched him and left him for dead, no big deal. Right? Reeks of scumbags in the lead and Cover Your Own **** No Matter What politics. Sick. If you're not related to the victim, sure is easy to make the crime into a trivial word game. And WHERE were witnesses? On a weekend evening in Santa Fe during Fiestas?!!!
Dallas

Dallas, TX

#104 Sep 16, 2009
Tragic! RIP Gilbert. Justice awaits........
Richard

United States

#105 Feb 19, 2012
Tish Roybal wrote:
Yeah really!<quoted text>
it is a difussion of responsiblity. It is awful that we live in a World that expects others to step in; instead of ourselves. FREEDom. What does that mean?
Richard

United States

#106 Feb 19, 2012
It means that we have to, as citizens, step up. Stop crime. Criminals are junk. They run, hide. They are the "pit" of society. There should be an island for them.
Richard

United States

#107 Feb 19, 2012
I guess you all barely get it. You were not there. Difussion of responsibility. Happens all the time.
Richard

United States

#108 Feb 19, 2012
Stay in school wrote:
Sounds like murder to me.Why all all the mumbo jumbo? And the fact that he is gay should not make this any more or less of a tragedy.
You gal or dude, are way out there. People should not die for beliefs. Those people that passed his beating are as guilty as the person (s) who committed. The act. Omission. Absurd. Gay or not-who cares. It is a soul.
digger1960

Phoenix, AZ

#109 Feb 21, 2012
native wrote:
If his death was due to his sexuality, which I suspect it is, they will put this on the backburner. I lost a dear friend 10yrs ago. He was murdered. Hate crime. And it is still burning on the burner. This society has a long way to go. Must I say more the sfpd.......... what a joke they are. May you rest in peace Mr. Roybal and my heart goes out to the family...
The SFPD actually has a better solve rate than most agencies in the State- especially for homicides.

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