Police: Slain man was victim of battery

Full story: The Santa Fe New Mexican

A 44-year-old man who died after he was found lying on a median downtown during the Fiesta celebrations Friday was not "beaten," police said Monday.

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How is one not "beaten," just struck as to sustain a head injury that caused death? Isn't that how people are beaten to death? They're hit, get injured and the injuries kill them? Why do the cops sound like lawyers? This is very suspicious.
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I have to wonder if this would be treated differently if the business owner was Nedra Matteucci or Gerald Peters. It seems like, just becasue his last name is Roybal, they are treating Gilbert like he was some gang-banger just waiting to get caught up in a fight. He was neither a bully, a druggie, or a low life. As everyone has already pointed out, Gilbert was an incredible human being as well as being successful business owner. His death on the streets of Santa Fe is an outrage! Instead of following leads and interviewing witnesses, the stupid police seem to be trying their hardest to prove that the Eldorado has nothing to do with it. We need to march down to city hall and demand justice, Mayor Coss needs to order the imbeciles at the SFPD to do their jobs, not just for deep pocket businesses, but for the people of Santa Fe. I don't know about you, but I do not feel safe or protected!
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#32
Sep 15, 2009
 
OK, I do not live in Albuquerque, I live right here in Santa Fe!
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to the hater out there who said awful things
- which yes, I flagged for deletion -

if you had an issue w/ someone being a mean drunk then it would be logical to think bad behavior when drinking is alcoholism. Alcoholism is a disease.

So shut up before Karma bites you in the butt & if you wish that back at me for even telling you these truths - get real, I & others are already dealing w/ haters like you.(Orale! from Cerrillos-you don't do that town justice.)

If you had issue w/ Gilbert & wished him malice did you act on it hater?

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I too wrote:
witnessed the attack on Mr. Roybal. I have contacted the police and have not been contacted again for a formal statement. He was not "found" in the street. He was struck and went down to the ground from the blow. There are a number of other people that witnessed the attack (some on foot, and some in cars). I wonder how many more people have come forward. Why have all of these witnesses been contacted, shown surveillance tapes from the hotel, gotten more information, been able to offer more information?
Who attacked him and for what reason?

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Sep 15, 2009
 
I too wrote:
witnessed the attack on Mr. Roybal. I have contacted the police and have not been contacted again for a formal statement. He was not "found" in the street. He was struck and went down to the ground from the blow. There are a number of other people that witnessed the attack (some on foot, and some in cars). I wonder how many more people have come forward. Why have all of these witnesses been contacted, shown surveillance tapes from the hotel, gotten more information, been able to offer more information?
In addition, you said people in cars were witnesses. It could be assumed that this then happened outside?

“Talk is Cheap”

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Sep 15, 2009
 
This is a most vague label for this unfortunate man's demise. Beating to death does not necessarily mean instant death, but eventual death. Yes, beating with intent to kill is aggravated battery. Yet, it could be labled as gang terrorism of an individual or just plain murder conducted by assailant (s)....
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#38
Sep 15, 2009
 
I too wrote:
witnessed the attack on Mr. Roybal. I have contacted the police and have not been contacted again for a formal statement. He was not "found" in the street. He was struck and went down to the ground from the blow. There are a number of other people that witnessed the attack (some on foot, and some in cars). I wonder how many more people have come forward. Why have all of these witnesses been contacted, shown surveillance tapes from the hotel, gotten more information, been able to offer more information?
So, if you "witnessed" the attack on Mr. Royabal and the police refuse to talk to you, why don't you go public with the information you have? Call the New Mexican and give them a complete description of the attacker and everything else you saw. Then the New Mexican needs to publish this information and others will come forward with more. Evidently, "criminal investigation" is just like everything else in this country - the citizens are going to have to do it themselves, or it is not going to get done. Leaving the job up to the government is a waste of time and money. In this town, Coss and the City Council are too busy ribbon-cutting and working on their websites to bother with crime. Who knows what the police chief is doing instead of his job!
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#39
Sep 15, 2009
 
Sounds like the Santa Fe Police should actually work for their pay check. Seems like lots of eye witnesees. Come on, show the public you do care about the safety of EVERYBODY! Remember, this could happen to someone close to you.
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#40
Sep 15, 2009
 
How is battery leading to death any different than being beaten to death?? That is a play on words. If you are struck in the head with a blunt object, you have been beaten to death. Find the low life that is responsible for this and beat him to death!
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I too wrote:
witnessed the attack on Mr. Roybal. I have contacted the police and have not been contacted again for a formal statement. He was not "found" in the street. He was struck and went down to the ground from the blow. There are a number of other people that witnessed the attack (some on foot, and some in cars). I wonder how many more people have come forward. Why have all of these witnesses been contacted, shown surveillance tapes from the hotel, gotten more information, been able to offer more information?
Why were all of these people who were standing there or driving by when this man getting beaten up, not doing anything to stop it or come to his assistance? Evidently, not one of these bystanders bothered to call the police or come to this guy's aid. Something is very wrong here. Have we become New York City?
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If you witnessed this and the SFPD isn't listening to your story, don't go to the press, go to the county or state police.
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TO KNOW something, is completely different from BELIEVING it.

My dad once gave me a real good piece of advice which has proved it's worth over the years.

I was asking him how to discern the truth.

He said, "Son, don't believe anyhing you hear, only half of what you read. But believe what you see and get your eyes checked often."

Thought I'd offer this up to folks as food for thought.
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I did go to the New Mexican and my information about the Eldorado was reported with attribution the next day. Meanwhile the detective has never called me back nor my friend, who also called. I wonder how many Eldorado employees are not being called back with info different than the GM. If you have info, forget the police, email the two reporters on this story.
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"Battery" - what a hoot! A "battery" is an "offensive touching." Yeah - I would say that getting your head bashed in is an "offensive touching" alright! Apparently, the police are helping the perpetrator set up his "defense" by calling this a "battery." Here's the way it will go: "Gee Judge, all I did was punch Mr. Roybal in the nose. I didn't mean to knock him down and have his head crack open when it hit the pavement. I sure didn't mean to kill him." The police already know who did this!
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Tish Roybal wrote:
your a retired cop??nice---<quoted text>
Yeah. I did it for real. For 30 years.

Of course, you would have been more sensitive, more caring, and more sympathetic.

Those skills would have been much more effective than knowledge, courage, integrity, logic and reason.
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Wow. You all people should be writers for TV shows. With just a little bit of information you are concocting a whole story. I used to have to do that for creative writing class in high school.
But just looking at the facts given it appears that Mr. Roybal got in an altercation and was struck once or twice, his fatal injury could have come by hitting his head when he fell ... thus the not beaten story. Perhaps the police are not releasing info because it would hamper the investegation, perhaps they know who did it already and want to apprehend the suspect before releasing more info. I don't know, I wasn't there but I am fairly certain that most of the comments on this thread are nothing more than next weeks TV fantasy. My condolences to friends and family.
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"Ronnie wrote:
if you had an issue w/ someone being a mean drunk then it would be logical to think bad behavior when drinking is alcoholism. Alcoholism is a disease."

Thank you Ronnie for bringing this up. I was one of Gilbert's clients. I loved him and I knew he struggled with alcohol. He indicated to me that he wanted to stop drinking. I miss him deeply and am so incredibly sad that he is gone. I never personally saw him drunk, but heard he could be difficult and down right mean, especially when he was blacking-out. The book of Alcoholics Anonymous driscibes a certain kind of drinker as being a "real Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde", someone who does absurd, incredible, tragic things while drinking. Yet, when sober, may be one of the "finest fellows in the world". When he was sober and running his business, he was one of the happiest and friendliest guys in town. We all loved him so much.

I wasn't there Friday night, but I did hear that Gilbert had been drinking, got in a verbal fight with someone, got punched and his untimely death was a result of a head injury that he received from hitting the pavement. Perhaps the other person felt hate toward gays, I don't know. But what if this is just a sad, sad case of someone dying of the disease of alcoholism?
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Nicely put!
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What I see is a gay man being targeted for being gay, maybe even some racial issues there. I also see a police department which is minimizing the attack by not calling it what it obviously was a HATE CRIME! And a media which is trying to blame the victim! Who cares is he had been drinking?? If was the fiestas EVERYONE was drinking!
Eric wrote:
TO KNOW something, is completely different from BELIEVING it.
My dad once gave me a real good piece of advice which has proved it's worth over the years.
I was asking him how to discern the truth.
He said, "Son, don't believe anyhing you hear, only half of what you read. But believe what you see and get your eyes checked often."
Thought I'd offer this up to folks as food for thought.

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