Preventing suicide by design

Preventing suicide by design

There are 30 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from Sep 28, 2009, titled Preventing suicide by design. In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

The Rio Grande Gorge Bridge, the graceful steel span 650 feet above the Rio Grande near Taos that has attracted both tourists and suicides, could be in for some changes.

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hastiin

Fort Defiance, AZ

#1 Sep 29, 2009
What a comment... If you go...to jump off the bridge?

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe, NM

#2 Sep 29, 2009
I would oppose tall railings that obstruct the great view for the 99.9% of us that are NOT suicidal. Perhaps a net maybe 20' down that would be hard to jump over? Perhaps some pictures posted as to what a body looks like after falling 600 feet? Or more pleasantly, perhaps a sign with a suicide hotline telephone number to call?
george

Lincoln, NE

#3 Sep 29, 2009
great suggestions Mr Dan B.......
tho i agree with the article....if this location happens to deter...there WILL be another site to carry out this deed.....
Hope

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Sep 29, 2009
The most popular design so far would be stainless steel netting underneath the structure, which would both prevent suicides, and keep from obstructing the view. It would also prevent homicides, kids who crawl under the bridge to tag, and - hopefully - base jumping, all of which have lead to fatalities. A barrier would not only save lives, but it would save taxpayer money due to search and rescue, and stop fire and rescue workers from having to see all of the horrible things they have seen over the years.
Live without a net

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Sep 29, 2009
There's no need to mar such a beautiful bridge with a cage over it. I think adding a net may actually cause some thrill seekers who are not suicidal to jump. I think the suicide hotline signs along with a phone that can dial the hotline or 911 is enough. People can find all sorts of ways to kill themselves, and prevention can be done withouth putting a net or a rollcage around a beautiful piece of engineering.
Ashtar the Beneficent

Santa Fe, NM

#6 Sep 29, 2009
Look at these pictures for the Luminous Veil on the Prince Edward Viaduct in Toronto... slender steel rods spaced 5 inches apart block jumpers, preserve the view, and aren't objectionably noticeable from a distance, preserving the aesthetics of the bridge:
< http://www.architecture.uwaterloo.ca/faculty_... ;

“Strength in a world gone soft!”

Since: Dec 08

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Sep 29, 2009
Why are we ruining the character of this great bridge to protect those intent on suicide? Darwin would be proud of this bridge!! Let em jump!! The more, the merrier!!

Since: Mar 09

Los Alamos, NM

#9 Sep 29, 2009
Why should our hard earned money be used to stop suicide and ultimately deface the bridge? If you want to kill yourself you're gonna' do it. Yes it (suicide) is the most selfish way out there is, and leaves nothing but ruin in its wake. However, aren't there more important issues to deal with within our state than focusing on .0001% of our population?

Since: Nov 08

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Sep 29, 2009
We need to stop people from jumping from the bridge because it's horribly traumatic for the people who have to clean it up and it's very expensive as well. I don't agree that the rest of us must look at the view through netting or poles, though. Nets laid down below the bridge to catch the jumpers would make me happy. I think that's a great idea--and a lot cheaper than making our public servants clean up the messes.
gee whiz

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Sep 29, 2009
Let them jump and leave them down there, the crows will love it
leave

Ramah, NM

#12 Sep 29, 2009
them for the buzzards! Poor birds need some fresh food!
Ronster

San Francisco, CA

#13 Sep 29, 2009
Research has shown that people do NOT simply find another way to kill themselves once a suicide magnet is made unavailable. Survivors nearly always say the decision to jump was an impulsive one, and that they wouldn't have attempted suicide by another method. Most jumpers are under the influence of alcohol, which as we all know impairs judgement and lowers inhibitions. I don't want the RGG Bridge, or the Golden Gate Bridge, defaced with some ugly barrier, but the "they'll just go somewhere else" argument isn't supported by facts and it doesn't contribute to the discussion. If the topic interests you, consider renting "The Bridge," a documentary about suicide on the GGB.

Since: Jul 09

Kihei, HI

#14 Sep 29, 2009
SFcitizenX wrote:
Why are we ruining the character of this great bridge to protect those intent on suicide? Darwin would be proud of this bridge!! Let em jump!! The more, the merrier!!
Perhaps they could install some kind of automatic garbage disposal near the river so suicidal people could practice their marksmanship?

Or perhaps they could go to the new high bridge in France? More scenic too. Promote tourism with non-stop jumps?

Since: Jul 09

Kihei, HI

#15 Sep 29, 2009
Chaya wrote:
We need to stop people from jumping from the bridge because it's horribly traumatic for the people who have to clean it up and it's very expensive as well. I don't agree that the rest of us must look at the view through netting or poles, though. Nets laid down below the bridge to catch the jumpers would make me happy. I think that's a great idea--and a lot cheaper than making our public servants clean up the messes.
Put a net under the bridge? Good Lord. Next thing you know everyone will be jumping off the bridge to see if the net works. Imagine the traffic jams.

Since: Jul 09

Kihei, HI

#16 Sep 29, 2009
However, jumping off buildings downtown is not very nice. You become a hazard to pedestrians. I think people that commit suicide this way should be shot.
Santa Fean

Albuquerque, NM

#17 Sep 29, 2009
Zorkon 756 wrote:
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Perhaps they could install some kind of automatic garbage disposal near the river so suicidal people could practice their marksmanship?
Or perhaps they could go to the new high bridge in France? More scenic too. Promote tourism with non-stop jumps?
If you have nothing beneficial to say but really just must see your self talking, say something idiotic.

Since: Sep 08

La Madera, NM

#18 Sep 29, 2009
Perhaps a video camera monitored by the local police and a bullhorn would break their train of thought.

Since: Sep 08

La Madera, NM

#19 Sep 29, 2009
Add a callphone any would be jumpers could be directed to by the monitor of the camera.
Cynic

Florence, AL

#20 Sep 29, 2009
Santa Fean wrote:
<quoted text>If you have nothing beneficial to say but really just must see your self talking, say something idiotic.
Once again I think sarcasm is lost in a text comment.

I believe Zorkorn was trying to ilustrate the insanity of some of the other posters, who wouldn't understand compassion or empathy until it's someone in their family that commits suicide or is depressed enough to become suicidal.

The state of mental health care in Northern New Mexico is deplorable. It's still looked at like some sort of sin or demonic possession. Maybe if there were more ways to get help other than churches and suicide hotlines that offer nothing substantive in terms of treatment solutions. Why don't you spend a night in jail because your depressed, that oughta fix you right up!

Since: Jul 09

Kihei, HI

#21 Sep 29, 2009
Cynic wrote:
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Once again I think sarcasm is lost in a text comment.
I believe Zorkorn was trying to ilustrate the insanity of some of the other posters, who wouldn't understand compassion or empathy until it's someone in their family that commits suicide or is depressed enough to become suicidal.
The state of mental health care in Northern New Mexico is deplorable. It's still looked at like some sort of sin or demonic possession. Maybe if there were more ways to get help other than churches and suicide hotlines that offer nothing substantive in terms of treatment solutions. Why don't you spend a night in jail because your depressed, that oughta fix you right up!
Thank you!

As I was completing my ablutions this morning the thought occurred to me that perhaps it would be beneficial if the democrats in congress would ramrod a bill through for the president's signature that would allow republicans to rent theators, arenas, etc., in which they could charge admission to view their suicide. The bill would exempt them from having to pay taxes on these windfall incomes. This ought to appeal to the more prudent republicans, that is, conservatives.

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