'Double dippers' defend state jobs

The dozens of retired government employees who have returned to work for six-figure incomes have become a symbol of resentment around the capital. Full Story
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lostveganinsanta

Las Vegas, NM

#1 Feb 21, 2009
go get a life, you are taking jobs that other people could have. give someone else the chance to make a retirement or get an upgrade in their current position.I hope they pass this bill so that this shameless practice can stop.
NON _SS LICKER

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Feb 21, 2009
Give other people a chance. You act as if you are the only ones who have certain job skills. You have your honker so far up the money crack that you do not want to see other people get ahead.
sparky

Espanola, NM

#3 Feb 22, 2009
NOBODY is indispensable Ms. Griego. Why did you retire if you love your job soooooooo much?
ErnestO Stolpe

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Feb 22, 2009
The article states "The dozens of retired government employees who have returned to work for six-figure incomes have become a symbol of resentment around the capital.

They are accused of gaming the system, keeping younger workers from rising through the ranks and for hurting morale. They are classified as return-to-work employees, or in the pejorative, "double dippers."

This report seems to be more about applying the lens of AGEISM than the lens of clean sound reasoning. Our state benefits from a large contingency of retired government workers (military). Dr. John E. Counts retired military, is now President at Western New Mexico University, is an example of someone NOT GAINING THE SYSTEM. His impressive bio can be read at
http://www.wnmu.edu/admin/president/president...
Truant

Albuquerque, NM

#5 Feb 22, 2009
If they are drawing state retirement and are rehired in their former position, or any other state position, their total job pay and retirement should not exceed the base pay of the salary. Example:
Retirement package $40,000 plus salary package of $100,000 should not equal $140,000, but $100,000.
Bob-Phoenix AZ

Chandler, AZ

#7 Feb 22, 2009
Ms. Griego's comments are classic gov't employee reasoning. They live in a bubble of arrogance and narcissism. If the state bothered to follow their own HR rules for replacements by posting Griego's job vacancy nationwide, there would be an abundance of highly qualified applicants to choose from. Knowing this, Griego and others like her, would often not retire early thus reducing costs to the state. New Mexico is the poster child for political idiocy.
Gil Morales

Farmington, NM

#8 Feb 22, 2009
It seems absurd to "demand" a higher salary for doing the same thing. The appearance is you get paid twice for what you do. The rest of us get paid once for what we do. Yes, no one is indispensible. This thought is ridiculus. Let upward mobility happen. Find a job outside of the system you retire from and then nobody will criticize you or have issue with what you do.
Obskeptic

Southfield, MI

#9 Feb 22, 2009
All of these government people deserve to retire and make us little people work into our seventies to pay for their benefits. We all know how hard they worked, and how valuable their contribution was to the society. We all know that when your in your mid fifties your productive contribution has been maxed out and you are now entitled to nuzzle up to the taxpayer nipple of wealth. None of us wealth producers deserve what we have anyway!
msroy

Albuquerque, NM

#10 Feb 22, 2009
the problem that i have with this is that double dippers have an advantage because they are "exempt" employees. The reality of this is that all us private sector employes work every day under "exempt" status and can loose our job at any moment, that in my world that logic is just plane wrong!

“Stretching reality, ”

Since: Feb 09

Santa Fe

#11 Feb 22, 2009
Someone needs 'reorientation'...
"Who wants to take a job and get a mortgage and know that you may not last longer than four years?"

- Well, most people I know are going from week to week,not knowing if their job will last.

"...you have to have the knowledge," she said

-Of how to work the New mexico system to get anything accomplished, maybe. Knowledge of all the inside Hispanic power cliques that is requisite to being in a State job in the first place, perhaps.

I am so enjoying the Reality effect of this (ha-ha)"Downturn". Folk are waking up to being milked and abused, the power structure is wobbling, and it beats TV, hands down.
STOP

Barnesville, OH

#12 Feb 22, 2009
Bob-Phoenix AZ wrote:
Ms. Griego's comments are classic gov't employee reasoning. They live in a bubble of arrogance and narcissism. If the state bothered to follow their own HR rules for replacements by posting Griego's job vacancy nationwide, there would be an abundance of highly qualified applicants to choose from. Knowing this, Griego and others like her, would often not retire early thus reducing costs to the state. New Mexico is the poster child for political idiocy.
Well put....agree 100%...BRAVO..BRAVO
Pman

Albuquerque, NM

#13 Feb 22, 2009
I'll agree with the above comments that the discussion of "exempt" status is a slap in the face to all the private sector employees who can lose their jobs at any moment. This should be the case for all government workers too.

And another point, the salary numbers do not include the great benefits that the state workers enjoy - who knows how much that adds to the total. Looks like they need a little "realignment" of their perspective.

Since: Dec 08

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Feb 22, 2009
Nobody was born into this world with the experience and knowledge to do a given job. People like Ms. Griego have worked their way up, getting promotions along the way.

I can't believe there aren't others who have worked long and hard to get promotions and are ready to take the next step into the job Ms. Griego is doing. No wonder the employees are resentful. I'm sure she wasn't exempt before she "retired" for a mere 90 days.

“Liberal Patriot”

Since: Sep 08

Rio Linda, CA

#15 Feb 22, 2009
I think that they ought to make way for younger workers. The experience factor is a good one, but the stopping upward movement amongst younger workers is the biggest and main fault.
Myles Horton Lives

Rio Rancho, NM

#16 Feb 22, 2009
Older workers do develop valuable skills and do have much to contribute. Let them make those contributions, but not for twice the pay! As one commenter said, if they love the work and want to work and have something to contribute, don't retire! Many of these folks retired in their 50's. There of course should be some very narrowly defined exemptions to allow people with critical skills to come back for defined periods, but the current system is ridiculous.
Local

Albuquerque, NM

#18 Feb 22, 2009
The comments show vile disregard for public employees. Do those people have the same contempt for a state employee if they are collecting a military pension and come out of retirement to work for the state? How about a pension from a private company?

I think that that PERA needs to change its system. If someone retires from public service and gets another public job covered by PERA, they should pay into PERA for their new job even if they do not get an increase in their pension for it. The current exemption makes it logical to retire and come back, from an economic point of view. Does one of the PERA bills under current consideration add this provision?
mal morales

Albuquerque, NM

#19 Feb 22, 2009
What a problem the state has with moral. Problem is the chief executive only wants to reward his politicos. Rep. Varela is on the right track. I would like to see a five year waiting period to enter employment. Only classified jobs could be applied to and the retirees would have to waive their pensions or pay into the plan as state employees.

There are a group of mid level managers waiting on the sidelines to fill these top positions and the retiree puts these peoples careers on hold. Shame on you Governor. The astute know the rule change, that allowed this mess, was to benefit David Harris when he became your Dep. Chief of Staff.
PERA MAD

Albuquerque, NM

#20 Feb 22, 2009
How many of the "exempt" employees have ever been terminated? I would be the number is few to none because they have gotten their positions back because of politics. The return to work for PERA retirees is a great example of pay to play politics. These folks take care of the governor or mayor or whoever they currently work under to make sure they get hired back in retirement.

Return to work is wrong and it needs to be completely done away with. Repeal it now.
Leah

Trenton, NJ

#21 Feb 22, 2009
All double dippers and Richardson's exempt friends with no experience or degrees making huge salaries need to go. A lot of money would and could be saved. . . . . .
Double Diapers

Rio Rancho, NM

#22 Feb 22, 2009
These people that are double dipping are doing it with the power of the unions behind them. The unions have destroyed so many industries in this country it is astounding: steel, textiles and now the automotive industry. Unions representing government workers are now wobbling because the tax payer has had enough of this bull.

I have been self employed for 16 years, running my own business, pay my own (incredibly expensive) health and life insurance, and I am not sure that my business will be open next month. I guarantee my skill set is equal to or better that of Mrs. Griego's. But if I put my application in for the job, would I even be considered? No way, I am anglo and NOT connected enough to the system. This system was designed by the politically connected hispanics and protected by the unions. These groups are no better than John Thane at Merrill, they just play on a smaller scale.

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