Politics in the pulpit: How far is to...

Politics in the pulpit: How far is too far?

There are 276 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from Oct 18, 2008, titled Politics in the pulpit: How far is too far?. In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

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Zorkon756

Honolulu, HI

#258 Nov 3, 2008
Sorry we don't have race pie in our family.
Psyche Daddy

Albuquerque, NM

#259 Nov 3, 2008
What is everyone going to do when this election is over?
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#260 Nov 3, 2008
Koz wrote:
<quoted text>Apparently you can't read. I made a statement of fact: Every person alive or who has ever lived began their life at conception.
As did every other plant, animal, and yeast
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#261 Nov 3, 2008
And prion
Goode Goode

Las Vegas, NV

#263 Nov 3, 2008
Dan 8:25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify [himself] in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.
Goode Goode

Las Vegas, NV

#264 Nov 3, 2008
is policy Politics?
Goode Goode

Las Vegas, NV

#265 Nov 3, 2008
Bob Burns wrote:
<quoted text>As did every other plant, animal, and yeast
That is called Nanneh Wiyah...the womb or the matrix...
arnie

Carlsbad, NM

#266 Nov 3, 2008
Tess wrote:
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You know what? We need people to work the farms,and we need people to manage businesses. Often, the two do not make the same wages. Does this mean we should not have people working in farms because the wages suck? and if not, how will the agricultural produce miraculously appear on our plates? The point is, that we all need each other, and we should all be compensated for that exchange. The business owner is not more valuable than the worker in the field. Therefore, a redistribution is necessary, otherwise you will not have the food to eat today.
you, madam, are clearly a product of our poor quality public school sustem
albertson

Carlsbad, NM

#267 Nov 3, 2008
what if wrote:
wonder if Obama will redistribute the productive kids school grades. Take away A's and give the slow kids points to bring up their grades, no failures then. might as well teach it to kids so that they get use to it.
you seem to be describing the current sysem of education in the US
albertson

Carlsbad, NM

#268 Nov 3, 2008
ssf507 wrote:
Sorry misprint the brain begins to develop after 3 weeks but isn't full developed until sometime after the 2nd trimester.
if you will kindly observe any teenager, you will quickly conclude that the brain is not developed fully until age 25
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#269 Nov 3, 2008
albertson wrote:
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if you will kindly observe any teenager, you will quickly conclude that the brain is not developed fully until age 25
If then. Mostly never

Since: Sep 08

Miyazaki

#270 Nov 3, 2008
Bob Burns wrote:
<quoted text>If then. Mostly never
But it still doesn't prevent fools from being elected to the highest office in the land.
Bob Burns

Kunming, China

#271 Nov 3, 2008
Steve van Dresser wrote:
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But it still doesn't prevent fools from being elected to the highest office in the land.
Democracy is by and for fools. Thank the spirits we've matured beyond that
what if

Gloucester, VA

#272 Nov 3, 2008
Sixteen percent of the voters in this country are paying 83 percent of the federal income taxes. The Democrats and leftists don't need their votes. They need their money for their big government, welfare state spending programs. When Ted Kennedy called for a tax increase last week who do you think he was talking about ? That 16 percent, that's who. The 16 percent of Americans who are paying 83 percent of the taxes. And where did Kennedy want to spend the money? On the other 84 percent of voters, that's where.

It's foolproof, my friends. If you have 1000 voters who are going to cast votes on your future --- and if you can take money away from 160 of those voters to be used to buy votes from the other 840 ... you have it made. Election assured.

Since: Sep 08

Miyazaki

#273 Nov 3, 2008
what if wrote:
Sixteen percent of the voters in this country are paying 83 percent of the federal income taxes. The Democrats and leftists don't need their votes. They need their money for their big government, welfare state spending programs. When Ted Kennedy called for a tax increase last week who do you think he was talking about ? That 16 percent, that's who. The 16 percent of Americans who are paying 83 percent of the taxes. And where did Kennedy want to spend the money? On the other 84 percent of voters, that's where.
It's foolproof, my friends. If you have 1000 voters who are going to cast votes on your future --- and if you can take money away from 160 of those voters to be used to buy votes from the other 840 ... you have it made. Election assured.
The richest 1% of the population in America own about 40% of the wealth. Warren Buffett by himself, owns as much as the poorest 40,000,000 families. Does he pay an amount equal to those 40 million families in taxes? Not even close. The top 10% hold about 70% of the wealth. Do they pay 70% of the total tax burden? Again not even close. The top 16% may pay 83% of the taxes, but they hold even more of the wealth. Why should they pay a lower tax rate than the rest of us?

Since: Oct 08

Questa, NM

#274 Nov 3, 2008
You by your own posting put your self at the pentacle; ergo you are your own god. You also seem to lump all religions together without understanding the differences or to have any true understanding of Christianity. First if one reads the Bible they find that they are responsible for their behavior, their wrongs, their actions and anyone who claims otherwise are following the teachings of man and not the teachings of the Bible. And again anyone who attempts to elevate their status in a society by religion is not following the tenants of the Bible. And then there is the fact that if they think religion makes them a good person they need to set down again and do some study.
Tess wrote:
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I don't have a god or gods or devil. I do not worship anything. I take responsibility for my life and behavior, unlike the excuses I hear from god fearing folks. Most of the evils of this world have been commited by unfortunate individuals who believe in gods. It is hard for me to understand how someone can think they believe in the right god (Allah, Jehovah, etc.) and then feel justified by their actions. Truett, you have a relationship with your self and not a god. It is YOUR voice that you hear. We as human beings tend to allow others to twist and influence our core. The original source of religion is derived from man in order to elevate his status in a society. Truett, if you are a good person, this does not need to be associated with any god or religion.

Since: Oct 08

Questa, NM

#275 Nov 3, 2008
Actually Steve, that is Biblical.

Since: Oct 08

Questa, NM

#276 Nov 3, 2008
OOPS, deleted the quote: Actually Steve, that is Biblical.
Steve van Dresser wrote:
<quoted text>
You could make the same specious argument that every living person began their lives with the birth of their parents. Or grandparents. Or Greatgrandparents. Or Adam and Eve. One could as easily argue for any arbitrary time, and apparently you have done just that. There is no particularly rational basis for your choice of time frame.

Since: Sep 08

Miyazaki

#277 Nov 3, 2008
TruettCollins wrote:
OOPS, deleted the quote: Actually Steve, that is Biblical.
<quoted text>
I'm not sure what part was Biblical, other than mentioning Adam and Eve. My point was that anything derived from the Bible is a matter of faith and not necessarily a matter of reason.
Michal

Albuquerque, NM

#278 Nov 4, 2008
AndrewLeoLopez wrote:
The pulpit carries more weight than the tube.
Life for many New Mexicans begins at conception.
Yes, and judging from the considerable lack of health care/health insurance for children in this church-dominated state, concern for life ends at birth!

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