McCain's worldview shaped in prison camp

McCain's worldview shaped in prison camp

There are 49 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from Oct 5, 2008, titled McCain's worldview shaped in prison camp. In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

HANOI, Vietnam a ' The lake into which John McCain parachuted after his Navy plane was shot down is now surrounded by chic restaurants, cell-phone stores and motorcycle dealerships.

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chris mechels

United States

#1 Oct 6, 2008
Unmentioned in this article is that the documentation of McCain's captivity, and that of others, is classified; due to the efforts of John McCain.

Those records would reveal that McCain was a collaborator, who traded on his relations to Admiral McCain to secure better medical care and treatment than other POWs. He also made some 32 tapes damning the US efforts in the war, and these stand as evidence of his collaboration; also classifed due to McCain's efforts.

This man is a tissue of lies, and his record would reveal the lies, so it must be hidden.

We are left with only the propaganda. Who is the "real" McCain?

Since: Feb 08

Florence, AL

#3 Oct 6, 2008
Mellanomah wrote:
Chris, you are a sick ticket.
The McCain/Palin supporters claim that all is fair in politics, thus their Swiftboat attacks. So why should McCain supporters whine & complain about equal treatment?
Pangloss

Albuquerque, NM

#4 Oct 6, 2008
This is a fairy tale. It is seldom mentioned that the US fought to PREVENT elections in Vietnam. As for McCain's "mistreatment," what do you think would happen to a foreigner caught bombing villages in the USA? At best, they'd be in Guantanamo Bay, tortured for the rest of their lives. Oops, we've become enemy.

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe

#5 Oct 6, 2008
Unmentioned in this article is that the documentation of McCain's captivity, and that of others, is classified; due to the efforts of John McCain.
chris mechels

Chris- You are right-on. I heard that, too, and thought it to be so hypocritical. Gramps McSame back-stabbed his buddies in the POW camp for a little preferential treatment. No wonder he is such an ill-tempered bastid. He feels the guilt from the time spent in prison, selling out the other prisoners.

Since: Sep 08

Miyazaki

#6 Oct 6, 2008
Every prisoner of war broke. They all made tapes confessing their crimes against Vietnam and denouncing their own government. I can forgive McCain for breaking under torture. On the other hand his policies are disgusting and reactionary and he is a warmonger.

I won't vote against him because of what he did 35 years ago. I will vote against him because of what he wants to do tomorrow.

Since: Sep 08

Santa Fe

#7 Oct 6, 2008
I won't vote against him because of what he did 35 years ago. I will vote against him because of what he wants to do tomorrow.
Steve van Dresser

Precisely. What he did 35 years ago is incidental, except that he conjures lies and propaganda to attack his opponent today. The basis for his whole campaign is false, the Keating 5 scandal, notwithstanding.
The dems

United States

#8 Oct 6, 2008
finally did it right, picking a candidate that doesn't have a record to attack.
Angie Castlebury

Powhatan Point, OH

#9 Oct 7, 2008
Mellanomah wrote:
Chris, you are a sick ticket.
what aberation occurred that shaped your vile world view?
PlacitasRoy

Houston, TX

#10 Oct 7, 2008
Oyegi Thamu wrote:
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The McCain/Palin supporters claim that all is fair in politics, thus their Swiftboat attacks. So why should McCain supporters whine & complain about equal treatment?
Becuase they are cowardly whiners and the truth hurts real badly!
Fighting Joe

Albuquerque, NM

#11 Oct 7, 2008
RandyNason wrote:
Unmentioned in this article is that the documentation of McCain's captivity, and that of others, is classified; due to the efforts of John McCain.
chris mechels
Chris- You are right-on. I heard that, too, and thought it to be so hypocritical. Gramps McSame back-stabbed his buddies in the POW camp for a little preferential treatment. No wonder he is such an ill-tempered bastid. He feels the guilt from the time spent in prison, selling out the other prisoners.
Let me see if I have this straight. So McCain's POW activities are classified, because HE, and he alone wants them classified, right? And he, a solitary senator, personally contols all access to all federal records, right? And yet, in spite of this one-man censorship party, you two chowderheads (no doubt highly connected) somehow "know" what he did while captive, right? You mean even the authority of either of the two Democratic presidents who held office since McCain's captivity wasn't sufficient to allow the release of those records? So as a single senator, McCain was even more powerful than the President of the United States?

Wow. I guess it's up to the Chris Mechel's and Randy Nason's of the world to "correct" the record.

God help us, everyone...
Zorkon756

Honolulu, HI

#12 Oct 7, 2008
There is no need to make up things about McCain. Doing so gives us the same patina as him. There is an old saying, sleep with dogs; wake up with fleas.

The worst thing we can do right now is act like republicans. Their reputation is established. Instead---smear them with the truth! Even Jesus would approve of that.
Hawkeye

Portland, OR

#13 Oct 15, 2008
PanGloss, where did you get your information concerning The US preventing elections in Viet Nam? Mike Moore?

Where are these alledged tapes and why hasn't Obama made an issue of them? BECAUSE THEY DON'T EXIST!
Fired UP

Santa Fe, NM

#14 Oct 15, 2008
Zorkon756 wrote:
There is no need to make up things about McCain. Doing so gives us the same patina as him. There is an old saying, sleep with dogs; wake up with fleas.
The worst thing we can do right now is act like republicans. Their reputation is established. Instead---smear them with the truth! Even Jesus would approve of that.
I agree with that "old saying" So then I guess since Obama spent "20" years listening to his pastor - how his pastor feels, is how Obama feels. Don't you think???

Since: Aug 07

Location hidden

#15 Oct 15, 2008
If its "classified", does that mean you're making this up? How do you know what McCain did in captivity? Did he say he collaborated? I only know he would not allow them to release him unless all of men could go. That's a hero to me.
chris mechels wrote:
Unmentioned in this article is that the documentation of McCain's captivity, and that of others, is classified; due to the efforts of John McCain.
Those records would reveal that McCain was a collaborator, who traded on his relations to Admiral McCain to secure better medical care and treatment than other POWs. He also made some 32 tapes damning the US efforts in the war, and these stand as evidence of his collaboration; also classifed due to McCain's efforts.
This man is a tissue of lies, and his record would reveal the lies, so it must be hidden.
We are left with only the propaganda. Who is the "real" McCain?
Fired UP

Santa Fe, NM

#16 Oct 15, 2008
jenny623 wrote:
If its "classified", does that mean you're making this up? How do you know what McCain did in captivity? Did he say he collaborated? I only know he would not allow them to release him unless all of men could go. That's a hero to me.
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I agree with you one hundred percent. Alot of these people have never been in the military so they don't understand that there really are people who standup for their fellow soldiers. You sometimes just have to bite your tongue or just laugh at their ignorance.

Since: Sep 08

United States

#17 Oct 15, 2008
Yes, and OwamaBama's world views were shaped in the Indonesia Muslim school and from his communist and socialist co-conspirators in the ghetto of Chicago. Guess which one has a better world view? You want an inner city community organizer socialist/racist or a hero?
pangloss

United States

#18 Oct 15, 2008
Hawkeye wrote:
PanGloss, where did you get your information concerning The US preventing elections in Viet Nam? Mike Moore?
!
Um, I got that information from the news during the Vietnam War. The North Vietnamese consistently offered to stop fighting if the USA would allow elections in a unified Vietnam, including at the so-called "Paris Peace Talks." The USA could not/would not risk an elected Communist government.
Zorkon756

Honolulu, HI

#19 Oct 15, 2008
Fired UP wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with that "old saying" So then I guess since Obama spent "20" years listening to his pastor - how his pastor feels, is how Obama feels. Don't you think???
No
Zorkon756

Honolulu, HI

#20 Oct 15, 2008
Ohkay Oyegi Thermos wrote:
Yes, and OwamaBama's world views were shaped in the Indonesia Muslim school and from his communist and socialist co-conspirators in the ghetto of Chicago. Guess which one has a better world view? You want an inner city community organizer socialist/racist or a hero?
Your "hero" worship is sickening.
Fired UP

Santa Fe, NM

#23 Oct 16, 2008
Zorkon756 wrote:
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No
Are you afraid if McCain becomes president, you might have actually go out and find a job. No more freebies!!!!

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