'Double dippers' fought legislation

'Double dippers' fought legislation

There are 56 comments on the The Santa Fe New Mexican story from May 2, 2009, titled 'Double dippers' fought legislation. In it, The Santa Fe New Mexican reports that:

Both Gov. Bill Richardson's office and the state Attorney General's Office have declined to specify what led the governor to veto "double-dipping" legislation last month.

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santafean

Santa Fe, NM

#1 May 3, 2009
he seems ever shamelessly consumed by corruption
Whathe

Santa Fe, NM

#2 May 3, 2009
They all are shamelessly consumed by corruption. . . . Richardson just incurs the most focus.
New MexiCan

Albuquerque, NM

#3 May 3, 2009
Seems to me that these folks earned their pensions. Instead of fishing or buying an RV they've decided to return to public service. I think its very commendable. I'm not sure that inhibits the progression of young folks, it should provide incentive for the younger folks to work harder. Noone is going to hand it to you... you have to take it. Compete for the position, don't whine to the legislature!
redlightcamerasb ite

Las Vegas, NM

#4 May 3, 2009
Dear Double Dipper:

give someone else a chance. If you need to come back to work im sure there is a private company you can work for.

I dont think it is fair that these people are allowed to come back to public service.
Common Sense

United States

#5 May 3, 2009
Pensions are meant for people who work, contribute to a pension fund then retire. OK. These people did that. But what private company would EVER continue paying a pension to someone who returns to work? None! If these people want to return to work, they should either suspend their pension and return to government work or keep their pension and find work in the private sector. The article mentions that these double dippers don't contribute to the pension program .... why not? Heck, if I could retire, get a bunch of money from the government (oh- excuse me - I mean from the taxpayers), return to get another government paycheck (funded by the taxpayers), in essence get double money for doing the same amount of work, well it would be very appealing ... but the taxpayers are being cheated, they are paying for loopholes in a system that is already corrupt. No wonder the state is in the RED INK. Greed is more closely associated with big business and wall street - I think GREED is the middle name of politicians!
AndrewLeoLopez

United States

#6 May 3, 2009
The US Supreme Court settled the issue some years ago in a dispute over records between the President and the Attorney General of the United States.
Because the Attorney General serves the people of New Mexico there exists no attorney client privilege between Gary King and Bill Richardson.
For as long as forever Social Security benefits are reduced for earned income.
Pension benefits reduced for the period of time a pensioner returns to work is plainly constitutional.
Opponents of double dipping legislation that reduces pension benefits or restricts re-employment do not have a leg to stand on.
Finally, King and Richardson must cough up the tell tale documents.

Hopi Guy

Albuquerque, NM

#7 May 3, 2009
Richardson and King are both wimps. There is no constitutional objection. Just a flimsy excuse to veto a piece of public interest legislation.

After all Richardson and King are both potential double dippers.
new2nm

Albuquerque, NM

#8 May 3, 2009
Double-dippers no longer have to contribute to PERA, which has solvency problems... That says it all. The double dippers should still have to contribute to PERA. Anyone being paid should still contribute or leave and allow regular employees to try to bring PERA back to solvency.
CantGetPromoted

Huntsville, AL

#9 May 3, 2009
NewMexiCan says "No one is going to hand it to you...you have to take it"

Boy, have these double-dippers taken it! These people are in positions that were specifically created for them and/or usually WELL PAID management positions. These are individuals who are earning with their combined pensions over $100K a year and are well connected.

If the law had been passed, they would have just gotten more creative in their methods to get around the law.

So NewMexiCan is correct "nothing is going to be handed to me" because most of all the great paying State jobs have already been handed to the double-dippers. I work with them!
Susan

Kingfisher, OK

#10 May 3, 2009
I retired from state government and I am upset that Gov. Richardson vetoed the bill. Double dippers are greedy, and refuse to give others (especially the younger ones) a chance for a promotion. I hope Rep. Lucky Varela continues to fight for state workers and give double dippers what they deserve.
No Justice

Albuquerque, NM

#11 May 3, 2009
NMDOT has a bunch of double dippers.
ubetcha

Albuquerque, NM

#12 May 3, 2009
"I would have taken more seriously the AG's concerns if he did not have all these employees double-dipping over there also," Varela said. "He should have stepped up when we were going through the committee process and said,'Look, there's a constitutional problem here.' They waited until the bill passed, and then the governor inquired about the legality."

There should be an investigation into how Gary King and his staff abused their position and power to line their own pockets on this. The are supposed to be the taxpayer lawyers, not spending our money for their own benefit. Claiming there was a legal problem, and then clamming up claiming client attorney privelage is really shady when they knew all along they would sabotage the double dipper bill later. State employees will remember this.
So far

AOL

#13 May 3, 2009
10% of state employees are double-dipping. When the smoke clears, it will be more like 15% because so many retired trying to beat the bill. Now that it's been vetoed they'll all be popping up to grab their 2nd job. A state that lets that happen and claims it must have these people because of their experience is doing the public and the junior employees great harm. The double-dippers will protect their status and make sure others will not get the training or chance to move up. 10-15% is one huge clogged artery. The reason to retire and come back is pure greed. Hey, they've been schooled and protected by the finest. King and Richardson and the double-dippers beware Karma. I think Bill may be getting a taste real soon.
Chucho

United States

#14 May 3, 2009
Double dipping is stealing from taxpayers.
Superdude

Albuquerque, NM

#15 May 3, 2009
Danny Sandoval sat on the PERA Board when the double dipping law was first enacted. Pull the minutes and you will see he did everything he could to make sure this bill passed.

Once again a public servant is doing everything he can to serve himself and not the public. Danny Sandoval should voluntarily step down from his double dipping position as it is now clear he does not serve the public but himself. And to add his comments regarding his campaign contributions, that is just another example of Pay to Play in New Mexico.

The Santa Fe New Mexican needs to post all the emails. They need to post all the pensions and current salaries of these state double dippers. They need to also post which ones sat on the PERA Board during since 2002 and and which ones gave campaign money to Richardson, King or any other legislator.

This has got to end. Richardson can only save his reputation by having the special session just repeal the double dipping law. If he doesn't his legacy will be known to history as one of the most corrupt and greedy New Mexico has ever seen.
Doinky

Santa Fe, NM

#16 May 3, 2009
there's no motivation for doing 'the right thing';

Any child can see that the government, elected officials, cops, big corporations, big banks - they just do what they want and get away with it. While they are told 'do the right thing'. The message is clear. Winners take all and losers beg for redress.
gatonack

Florence, AL

#17 May 3, 2009
2000 double dippers changed Richardson's mind? Don't make sense with many more thousands not supporting double dippers. Retire and get out -- give someone else a chance.
4 lsu

Poplarville, MS

#18 May 3, 2009
looks like there is a lot of Louisiana over there in New Mexico.
John Sanchez

Santa Fe, NM

#19 May 3, 2009
New MexiCan wrote:
Seems to me that these folks earned their pensions. Instead of fishing or buying an RV they've decided to return to public service. I think its very commendable. I'm not sure that inhibits the progression of young folks, it should provide incentive for the younger folks to work harder. Noone is going to hand it to you... you have to take it. Compete for the position, don't whine to the legislature!
Problem is that there is no competition allowed. The higher level management positions are kept open for the double dippers to return without having to compete with a younger employee who has also earned the right for promotion. It should not be about people like Danny Sandoval who are friends with former governors or who "may have" made significant political contributions. In essence there is NO incentive for younger employees.
Michael Coluzzi

Santa Fe, NM

#20 May 3, 2009
Sounds like Danny Sandoval did what this administration seems to embrace: "pay to play"!!!

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